NY GOP candidate Carl Paladino blasts homosexuals

As much as I'd like to see Paladino win, he is throwing away his already slim chances of winning by some of these pointless attacks he's making. He should stick to trashing Cuomo and the establishment in Albany.
 
Where are you getting this? Have you read anything I've said?

Are you still working with the premise that a person is either born that way or else chooses it?

And does it really make sense to you that someone is attracted to sex organs of either sex on the day they're born?

i haven't supposed anything, but have framed both sides of the argument.
babies don't know a genital from a grapefruit, but how they will develop chemically is predetermined by dna from birth. chemicals determine how we feel.
for instance, estrogen laden humans act differently than testosterone laden humans.
 
i haven't supposed anything.

Yes you have. You have repeatedly supposed that someone is either born gay or else chooses to be, and that exhausts the possibilities.

That supposition is so ridiculous, I have to re-read your comments just to make sure you're really saying that.
 
babies don't know a genital from a grapefruit, but how they will develop chemically is predetermined by dna from birth. chemicals determine how we feel.
for instance, estrogen laden humans act differently than testosterone laden humans.

So it's that simple. All nature, no nurture?

Does that hard and fast rule apply to all behavior, or just sex?

And what is your evidence for this belief?
 
Yes you have. You have repeatedly supposed that someone is either born gay or else chooses to be, and that exhausts the possibilities.

That supposition is so ridiculous, I have to re-read your comments just to make sure you're really saying that.

I have outlined both sides, in question format for you to answer.
were you born heterosexual, or did you choose to be heterosexual?
 
So it's that simple. All nature, no nurture?

Does that hard and fast rule apply to all behavior, or just sex?

And what is your evidence for this belief?

a chemically depressed person cannot make themselves feel happy and motivated just by realizing they are chemically depressed. in order for them to 'feel' better, their chemicals will have to be changed.
though the environment could add or take away from your depression, it does not change the basic chemical make up of your brain.
so environment can push or pull, but the foundation on which the house is built is locked by dna.
someone who is born anti-social cannot choose to not be anti-social.
 
Really? You really think the two sides you've outlined are "both sides"?

yes. either you are born with a predetermined sexuality, or you aren't born with a predetermined sexuality.
what other options were you thinking of?
 
did you ever think boys were cute? did you ever want to hold a penis in your mouth?

No, and do you think that gays have those thoughts when they're 3 or 4 years old? People develop gay characteristics as a result of the circumstances of their upbringing.
 
did you ever think boys were cute? did you ever want to hold a penis in your mouth?

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yes. either you are born with a predetermined sexuality, or you aren't born with a predetermined sexuality.
what other options were you thinking of?

First of all, notice how this claim is entirely different than the presupposition of your earlier questions, which was that the only options were that you are either born gay or you choose to be (although, the way you begin with the word "yes" here implies that you are trying to pretend that this is just another way of saying the same thing).

Second of all, to answer this one, no, you aren't born with an entirely predetermined sexuality, although some people may be born with more of a predisposition to develop into homosexuals than others.

Two pretty important points that you disallowed by your two allegedly exhaustive options of either being born gay or choosing to be earlier in the discussion are:
1) that environment (such as how someone is raised) is a factor,
and
2) that behavior (including homosexuality) is determined by a combination of genetics, environment, and personal decisions, and not just one thing.

The scientific consensus is that both of those points are correct. The evidence is overwhelmingly against the claim that people are genetically predetermined to be gay, and that no other factors matter, as the APA and others have admitted for a long time now.
 
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Marriage. The article said that he would veto any bill granting equal rights under the law.

What article? The quote in the OP doesn't say that.

Could you tell me what you mean by marriage?

What exactly would gay people get punished for doing under a law he supports? Having a wedding? Living together? Having sex?

Or does the so-called "marriage ban" not actually ban anything at all?
 
What article? The quote in the OP doesn't say that.

The article quoted says the he promised to veto any gay marriage bill.

Could you tell me what you mean by marriage?

There is no need for us to argue semantics. He doesn't want gays treated in the same manner that heterosexuals are.

What exactly would gay people get punished for doing under a law he supports? Having a wedding? Living together? Having sex?

They wouldn't get to be "married." I find it repugnant that we have to define something and then only let some people use that definition. Either allow all people to be "married" or none. I think its silly that the government, either state or federal, sanctions the union of two people, but if we are going to accept it for heterosexuals, we must do the same for homosexuals.

Or does the so-called "marriage ban" not actually ban anything at all?

Yes, it does.
 
there is a world of difference between a homosexual and a faggot. I got no issues with homosexuals, but I hate faggots
 
I think its silly that the government, either state or federal, sanctions the union of two people, but if we are going to accept it for heterosexuals, we must do the same for homosexuals.

Why would you want to discriminate against single people?

I want to be "married" too.

We might as well sanction the union of one person and call it a day.

Marriage is entirely a spiritual union. Let's allow New York to do as it wills.
 
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