NWO..... deal or no deal?

[tribute_13]

You didn't name which conspiracy. There's the reptilian overlords, the annunnaki, the skull and bones, the aliens, the jews. Name one.

 

[DFF]

To anyone who even has a passing familiarity with the NWO and it's origins, and objectives, or recently dropped by Bloomberg and read this article, the question isn't "Is the NWO real?", it's "Can they make it work?"

 

[Agent CSL]

I feel proud. A year ago this poll would have been flipped with much of them going to "No deal." I'm very young, but I've researched this crap for about 3 years now. I can only imagine the horror of the people who've known about it for decades. Now it seems to be coming to fruition and at a high rate of speed.

We have all the evidence we need. Bill Clinton, Hillary Clinton, George W Bush, George Bush Sr, Gordon Brown, Tony Blair, Sarkozy, and countless other politicians and people have expressed their support for an "international community" and "new world order." We've seen the public school system focus more on kindness, feelings and being a good citizen than actual education. Now, through the drummed-up false crisis of global warming, climate change and animal extinction, they are taking control to make this "global threat" turn into a global government. It wont come to be for another 10 to 20 years, but I can guarantee, it will come to be. We already have the Law of the Sea Treaty from the UN and more to come. Once we begin paying taxes to the UN, there's no turning back.

Because humanity is inherently corrupt, it's only a matter of time. The people who despise the current government are also looking to it for help, but they'll find nothing, just a bunch of power-sucking snakes.

We knew it was coming, and now it's here. How do you feel?

 

[nayjevin]

Because humanity is inherently corrupt,

lol ya right

 

[Agent CSL]

lol ya right

I've been in enough positions of power to know what I know.

 

[bubbleboy]

This poll tells us how many agents are trolling this forum.
Sean Hannity opens his program with "welcome to the new world order", just like the G20.

get ready people. LIBERTY !!!

 

[pcosmar]

Yes Pcosmar (said she patiently) I've read the books...I've worn the t-shirt and I've chewed the chewing gum. I am in limbo. I am not 100% about anything. I mistrust the IMF and the G20 and TPTB. My philosophical roots differ from some of our more vocal members.
I think the main culprits in the mess we all find ourselves in are greed, hatred and ignorance which reside in the hearts of all humans, not just a few villains in high places and dance naked in the groves of Bilderburg.

You have somewhat of a point. Greed and hate have been with us a long time, but these people are not ignorant.
Also greed, selfishness, hate, etc., are not tangible. They are a part of human nature.
The MEN behind this are tangible. They are mortal. They can be stopped, if enough will resist them.
The question is, will there be enough resistance , or will the masses except global slavery?

 

[raiha]

You have somewhat of a point. Greed and hate have been with us a long time, but these people are not ignorant.
Also greed, selfishness, hate, etc., are not tangible. They are a part of human nature.
The MEN behind this are tangible. They are mortal. They can be stopped, if enough will resist them.
The question is, will there be enough resistance , or will the masses except global slavery?

oops It's the BOHEMIAN groves where they dance naked... correction. I think i challenge the us v. them paradigm. It's soooo last millenium. The main thing a human being can do in these uncertain times is to develop individuality, so you don't give way to mob rule (I'm not talking of individualism). The 'group' is the enemy of the 'True Individual.' Fear and loathing created the monsters that formed the Third Reich, ordinary every day people who became aligned with the monstrous that lurks within all of our hearts, and then crossed the line into monstrosity themselves...a fragile line in the sand that many soldiers in combat find themselves crossing; a crossing that destroys them. Conformity is the hallmark of "the group."
Our civilization is unconscious. We allow our predispositions to rule us and our impulse control sucks. Yup greed and hatred ARE part of all humans but we have choices as to whether we indulge it or cultivate the opposite. When i say ignorance i refer to ignorance of the Way Things Really Are: Impermanent, ultimately unsatisfactory and insubstantial. Sorry i've lapsed into Buddhism where actions have consequences, power takes responsibility and kindness underlies all mental attitudes (whether it is taught in schools at the expense of business mangement or not!! to the Agent)

Because humanity is inherently corrupt, it's only a matter of time.

Bollocks! Humanity is inherently EVERYTHING! You sound like we have no choice about what we become. A culture like Tibet, consisting of individuals who work on their states of mind, tends not to corruption.

PS I must be the most persistent troll on the board given i've been here for two years!

 

[pcosmar]

PS I must be the most persistent troll on the board given i've been here for two years!

Ah, I see.
You will accept slavery and perform mental gymnastics to convince yourself that you are free.

No thanks.
I will resist.

 

[raiha]

Ah, I see.
You will accept slavery and perform mental gymnastics to convince yourself that you are free.

Where would i accept slavery?No way jose!
I enjoy being on-line at the same time as other people...doesn't happen often. Not mental gymnastics at all. 40 years of Buddhist teaching. Freedom to me is predominantly freedom of mind. I don't think it is incompatible with Ron Paul one bit. Americans don't seem to be able to resist putting people into cubby holes, dismissing any different ideas and thus missing out on worlds of experience. It is intellectual arrogance. I was enjoying our little chat. Pity!

 

[pcosmar]

Where would i accept slavery?No way jose!
I enjoy being on-line at the same time as other people...doesn't happen often. Not mental gymnastics at all. 40 years of Buddhist teaching. Freedom to me is predominantly freedom of mind. I don't think it is incompatible with Ron Paul one bit. Americans don't seem to be able to resist putting people into cubby holes, dismissing any different ideas and thus missing out on worlds of experience. It is intellectual arrogance. I was enjoying our little chat. Pity!

You seem to be missing the whole point, or you haven't been paying attention.
There is a New World Order. It was just formally announced though many have seen it coming for sometime.
A one world government, under the control of a few.
The Fabian Society has been working towards this for years as have a few others.
A one world Monetary system controlled by a few banking families was just announced at the G20.

 

[dgr]

Because everyone who believed in the NAU was deemed a nut case almost every one is behind on this. Now I base my belief on the fact that I have actually read the entire 21st century transportation bill from Clinton to my states latest 09 compliance report. I got to this as an immigration activist. Because as I was reading the entire SPP agrement and all three 3 Bush NAU meetings. The failure to secure the borders is because of the US EU agreement and the SPP which call for the free unencumbered movement of goods and populations. didn't need to enforce the border because they don't intend to secure .it Now the Dept of Commerence controlls the Dept of transportation and the census, But a non goverment agency that is funded by the goverment to the tune of 3 million a year and has a cacuss in congress called NIST actually controlls all of this they are alligned with the Baldridge group a group with a lot of clout. Now all of you are familuar with the Texas Trans corridor highway or what ever they are calling it now, well this group CONASEO has 3 trillion of priviate funds to invest in all those new PPP highways, ports and railroads the states are going to sell.
stay with me This goes all the way back to when a Rockefeller was a republican.
When we gave thePanama Canal away the Chinese moved in and now they have widden and deepen it so super tankers can go thru and larger container ships the new port of intry for
their goods will put the goods off in Mexico where they will travel to the inland ports in the US, but will be controlled by Mexico .The other thing you need to look for is where your state has been building Trans global parks. Now all these new toll roads will have seperate lanes for trucks. Now the import export thing is a done deal and almost complete. The finiancial thing is in the works so what is left. Read the SPP agrement and see what companies have been in on the plans and negioations all along with the Goverment. GE, Ford, Exxon- Mobile , Wal Mart and 2 others I can't remember now. The point is this has been planeed for 20 years all you have to do is read all this. Want to stop this first stop amnesty again, stop buying anything from China, besides my radiation biology professor told us to never eat or drink from anything that was made in China and NEVER put it in the microwave. one more thing GE and smart grid, appliances tell you when you can and can't use electricty including when to lower the temp in your Fridgerator. as for wally world next generation store will be all self check out
This is not in the fine print it is spelled out for all to see, they just know they can supress it because it sounds to wild to believe. Which leads to me why as a republican I conflicted and confused, but mad as hell

 

[Conza88]

Conza do you really subscribe to the view that everyone who does not subscribe to your views is dense? Is that the arrogance of decrepitude or the intoxication of youth?

No I don't. I subscribe to the view, if I show someone a basketball and say it is round, and that person refuses to accept that, and they call it a rectangle or a banana.I'd say they are dense, and a fucken idiot.

"arrogance of decrepitude or the intoxication of youth?" It's the wisdom of an open mind. And the inability to accept profound stupidity with grace. I wouldn't care if you disagreed - stfu and went and sat in the corner. But when some clown tries to debate with me the shape of a basketball... I cus, I facepalm and invariably I tell you to get off the court, because this is where the big boys play - The Democratic Underground forums are a few blocs down.

I belong to the Black Swan brigade myself. Certainty is contagion. It is also a bedmate of totalitarianism.

You close minded fool. 95% of the world thinks this is natural. You're not a black fcken swan. I am. You're agreeing with the rest of the world. BAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!

There has been rather alot of chit chat on the forum over the past weeks subscribing to the view that TPTB are going to unveil their misshapen and ill-begotten plots at this G20 summit. Sorry i don't have the leisure to locate where or when i have seen it.

Because it didn't happen. I haven't and thats what matters - right? Me as an individual.

 

[raiha]

People I am not saying it is not happening. I said I am in the realm of uncertainty...maybe you would call it denial. Maybe it IS denial. It is such a grotesque notion. I do admit I'm lucky enough to have a job so i am only coming here when i can. I do take issue at the mentality of attacking anyone who doesn't agree with you. It seems to be an distinctively American trait. Debate is healthy and taking it to the personal is puerile.

No I don't. I subscribe to the view, if I show someone a basketball and say it is round, and that person refuses to accept that, and they call it a rectangle or a banana.I'd say they are dense, and a fucken idiot.

I rest my case! Let me guess. The arrogance of decrepitude! I tend to let the younger ones off the hook.

Why Conza I would have thought the closed mind is yours given you become apoplectic at people with reservations and people who divide the world up into either stupid or clued up.

Pcosmar I am sorry if i was a bit snide with you earlier. I see you are from Michigan and have been looking at your unemployment figures.

 

[pcosmar]

People I am not saying it is not happening. I said I am in the realm of uncertainty...maybe you would call it denial. Maybe it IS denial. It is such a grotesque notion.

We are dealing with some that are actively sowing disinformation. It is a common tactic with our intelligent agencies. Sometimes it may seem harsh.
We are trying to expose the truth and fighting a great evil that not only affects us here, but will affect the whole world.

No I don't. I subscribe to the view, if I show someone a basketball and say it is round, and that person refuses to accept that, and they call it a rectangle or a banana.I'd say they are dense, and a fucken idiot.

This does not apply unless you insist that the ball is square. If one continues to deny a reality even after being clearly shown, Well, the description fits.

Pcosmar I am sorry if i was a bit snide with you earlier. I see you are from Michigan and have been looking at your unemployment figures.

I have been unemployed for 3 years and start a job on Monday. A temporary position to start, but I'm hopeful it will turn into full time.
If I seem a bit morbid, The job is a constant reminder of mortality. I will be digging graves.
I deal in certain realities.

 

[raiha]

If I seem a bit morbid, The job is a constant reminder of mortality. I will be digging graves.
I deal in certain realities.

Well it's a growth industry. And there is no uncertainty about death!Good luck. And congratulations for getting work.

 

[pcosmar]

Well it's a growth industry. And there is no uncertainty about death!Good luck. And congratulations for getting work.

Unfortunately true. And it seems that there will be more. It is not my chosen profession, but it is a job that need doing, and I need the job.

 

[Conza88]

People I am not saying it is not happening. I said I am in the realm of uncertainty...maybe you would call it denial. Maybe it IS denial. It is such a grotesque notion.

Good, then stop responding as if you were. All you gotta say is; the basket is round / sphere. Or better yet, choose not to contest it, instead of going - "OH I dunno, it MIGHT not be a sphere / round. I dunno, the sun might not rise tomorrow morning". </anything equally insane>

I do admit I'm lucky enough to have a job so i am only coming here when i can. I do take issue at the mentality of attacking anyone who doesn't agree with you. It seems to be an distinctively American trait. Debate is healthy and taking it to the personal is puerile.

The debate is over. It has been announced. Do you want me to be cordial to someone who doesn't think the Sun exists? And continues to try refute it?

Ah thats funny. I'm not American. The debate has been raging for the last few decades. They've not only already announced it, it's now on the front page of newspapers all over the world...

I rest my case! Let me guess. The arrogance of decrepitude! I tend to let the younger ones off the hook.

Thanks for letting me off the hook.

Why Conza I would have thought the closed mind is yours given you become apoplectic at people with reservations and people who divide the world up into either stupid or clued up.

I've gone from Chomskiyte socialist, Alex Jones is a nut to Rothbard anarcho-capitalist... Alex Jones is a hero.... slowly over those 9 or so months of the campaign.

Don't ever say I have a closed mind. Unless you want to be wrong.

And as has been pointed out; it's to those that deny it or continue to refuse to reality.

 

[raiha]

Good Conza! I'm pleased you are young and off the hook and have an open mind. Allow me the freedom of prevarication and i will allow you the freedom of certainty.

 

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