NWO..... deal or no deal?

[Conza88]

And yes I've read all the books!

What books?

I haven't read any on conspiracy stuff. Nothin' nada.

 

[ramallamamama]

Yes, they are out to get us.

Awesome thread.

 

[max]

deal = real
no deal = not real

ive been researching this subject alot in the last few days and honestly im still not sure whether i believe in a global elite pushing toward a one world government.
take a side and explain your position (if you want)

read. THE SHADOWS OF POWER By James Perloff

 

[Meatwasp]

Watch out the elders of the mish mash are planning and scheming

 

[libertygrl]

It amazes me that despite all the evidence, there are those still in denial about the NWO. It must be some sort of psychological coping mechanism for some people. This came out today at infowars.com. Apologies if it was posted already:

World Bank President Admits Agenda For Global Government


Paul Joseph Watson
Prison Planet.com
Wednesday, April 1, 2009


World Bank President and Bilderberg elitist Robert Zoellick openly admitted the plan to eliminate national sovereignty and impose a global government during a speech on the eve of the G20 summit.

Speaking about the agenda to increase not just funding but power for international organizations on the back of the financial crisis, Zoellick stated, “If leaders are serious about creating new global responsibilities or governance, let them start by modernising multilateralism to empower the WTO, the IMF, and the World Bank Group to monitor national policies.”

In other words, give global institutions the power to regulate national policy as part of the creation of global government.

What Zoellick is outlining is essentially the end of national sovereignty and the reclassification of national governments as mere subordinates to a global authority that is completely unaccountable to the voting public of any country.

The more cynical amongst us would call this a global dictatorship. Zoellick couches the plan in flowery rhetoric of helping the poor and alleviating poverty, but as we have documented for years, the global elite’s goal of world government has little to do with saving the planet and everything to do with creating a global fascist state.

Zoellick, former Executive Vice President of Fannie Mae and advisor to Goldman Sachs, is a top elitist who was intimately involved in the Enron scandal and the 2000 presidential election debacle. He was also a signatory to the Project For A New American century document that called for invading Iraq as part of implementing a brutal world empire in 1998. He was later a foreign policy advisor to George W. Bush.

As to be expected, Zoellick is a member of the Council on Foreign Relations and the Trilateral Commission. He also attended the annual invitation-only conferences of the Bilderberg Group in 1991, 2003, 2006 and 2007.

Meanwhile, British Prime Minister Gordon Brown will use the G20 summit in London to extend an olive branch to China, offering them a central role in the construction of a new world order and a global government, according to reports.

“Brown will hold talks with Hu Jintao, China’s president, following discussions with Barack Obama, amid signs that developing countries see the G20 summit as a chance to impose a new world order and end the era of Anglo-European dominance,” reports the Guardian.

Under the proposal, China will vastly increase its IMF funding in return for more voting rights.

A central focus of the G20 summit will be the proposal to supplant the dollar with a new global currency. Both the IMF and the United Nations threw their weight behind the implementation of a new global reserve currency system to replace the dollar, in the same week that Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner told CFR globalists that he was “open” to the idea.

China and Russia brought the issue to the forefront of this week’s G20 when they jointly called for a new global reserve currency a week ago.

Brown has consistently called for global regulation of the financial system as a means towards global governance. In a speech at St Paul’s Cathedral in London yesterday he again called for a new “global society”.

http://www.infowars.com/world-bank-president-admits-agenda-for-global-government/

 

[raiha]

Some of us think Alex Jones, despite his passion, or maybe because of it, is slightly mad so INfowars source by association is somewhat dubious.
Not saying all of what he says is rubbish at all but he stretches his own credibility often.

So the new world currency hasn't emerged yet? Looks like the nays have it.
By the way you need another option in the poll:
No deal without the conspiracy part for the fence sitters.

 

[Conza88]

Some of us think Alex Jones, despite his passion, or maybe because of it, is slightly mad so INfowars source by association is somewhat dubious.
Not saying all of what he says is rubbish at all but he stretches his own credibility often.

So the new world currency hasn't emerged yet? Looks like the nays have it.
By the way you need another option in the poll:
No deal without the conspiracy part for the fence sitters.

Are you really that dense?

Who said there had to be a nwo currency by now?

 

[Josh_LA]

Are you really that dense?

Who said there had to be a nwo currency by now?

nobody says there needs to be one later either

currency is quite secondary if you have control over people

 

[Conza88]

nobody says there needs to be one later either

currency is quite secondary if you have control over people

Currency (FIAT) is PART of the control, geezus.

World Central Bank - with a world fiat currency.

Thats the stepping stone, after that - world government.

 

[paulitics]

Geezus. Gordon Brown said "Deal" today, and we still have people denying what happened.

It's a mental disorder.

 

[PatriotOne]

Currency (FIAT) is PART of the control, geezus.

World Central Bank - with a world fiat currency.

Thats the stepping stone, after that - world government.

LOL Conza. You use to be so patient with everyone. I've noticed you no longer suffer ignorance from everyone. I passed that threshold about a year ago .

We need a section on this board for NWO advance discussions and a section for the "Introduction to NWO" for the freshmen. Talking about the NWO those "just enlightened my the mainstream media " is quite boring and a waste of knowledgable people's time. Let the freshmen do some homework before being allowed into the advance classes

 

[PatriotOne]

nobody says there needs to be one later either

currency is quite secondary if you have control over people

Josh....your an idiot. Quit pretending ya know anything k? Your like a freaking mosquito in the tent. Just annoying. Go find somewhere to take NWO freshmen classes so you can actually add something intelligent to the conversation.

 

[Conza88]

LOL Conza. You use to be so patient with everyone. I've noticed you no longer suffer ignorance from everyone. I passed that threshold about a year ago .

Hahah. The more obvious it gets, the less patient I get.

 

[Josh_LA]

Josh....your an idiot. Quit pretending ya know anything k? Your like a freaking mosquito in the tent. Just annoying. Go find somewhere to take NWO freshmen classes so you can actually add something intelligent to the conversation.

so please refute my point, currency is NOT secondary after you have control? Currency is priority in order to have control?

If being an idiot means I don't understand and agree with everything you say, PROUDLY I AM.

 

[Josh_LA]

Currency (FIAT) is PART of the control, geezus.

It can be part of the control no doubt, or you can control people first.

If you can throw paper money and force people to accept it, you don't need to sprinkle confetti, you already have them by the balls.

World Central Bank - with a world fiat currency.

World central bank is powerless unless people respect their power.

Thats the stepping stone, after that - world government.

Everything is a stepping stone to world government or cooperation, sure, except war?

 

[Josh_LA]

Hahah. The more obvious it gets, the less patient I get.

it's obvious because you can't consider other possibilities, to you there is only your version of liberty and socialism, there is only natural law and fascism, there is only voluntary exchange and animalism, I don't think you've ever thought of 3rd options or middle grounds.

 

[Conza88]

It can be part of the control no doubt, or you can control people first.

If you can throw paper money and force people to accept it, you don't need to sprinkle confetti, you already have them by the balls.

"Give me the right to issue and control a nation’s money and I care not who governs the country.” ~ Meyer Amschal Rothschild

World central bank is powerless unless people respect their power.

People? How arbitrarily nonobjective. And you don't need to respect it.

Everything is a stepping stone to world government or cooperation, sure, except war?

"Except war?" are you fcken stupid? That is one of the main ones.

it's obvious because you can't consider other possibilities, to you there is only your version of liberty and socialism, there is only natural law and fascism, there is only voluntary exchange and animalism, I don't think you've ever thought of 3rd options or middle grounds.

"I don't think" - That's correct, you don't.

It's obvious because I'm not a fucken idiot. And I've read their studies, and what they have said, in, cold, hard, plain, English - something you struggle with.

Quotes from David Rockefeller's Memoirs (Random House, New York, 2002) Chapter 27, pages 404 and 405. Cited by Dr. Dennis Cuddy:

"My lifetime pursuits as an internationalist might best be summarized by one rather extraordinary day in 1995. October 23 was a busy day at the Council on Foreign Relations. The fiftieth anniversary of the United Nations had drawn almost two hundred heads of government to New York, and many had asked to speak at the Council. but even then the day was unusual for the diversity of the speakers: Jiang Zemin, president of the People's Republic of China and heir apparent to Deng Xiaoping; Vaclav Havel of the Czech Republic... Yasser Arafat... and, finally, Fidel Castro.... With the exception of Havel, these men had vowed to fight to the death against imperialist America. Now, with the end of the Cold War, they flocked to the center of world capitalism, eager to meet and close deals with American bankers and corporate executives, or at least to be seen with them -- even Castro....

"For more than a century ideological extremists at either end of the political spectrum have seized upon well-publicized incidents such as my encounter with Castro to attack the Rockefeller family for the inordinate influence they claim we wield over American political and economic institutions. Some even believe we are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States, characterizing my family and me as 'internationalists' and of conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure--one world, if you will. If that's the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it.​

 

[raiha]

Conza do you really subscribe to the view that everyone who does not subscribe to your views is dense? Is that the arrogance of decrepitude or the intoxication of youth?

I belong to the Black Swan brigade myself. Certainty is contagion. It is also a bedmate of totalitarianism.

There has been rather alot of chit chat on the forum over the past weeks subscribing to the view that TPTB are going to unveil their misshapen and ill-begotten plots at this G20 summit. Sorry i don't have the leisure to locate where or when i have seen it.

 

[pcosmar]

Conza do you really subscribe to the view that everyone who does not subscribe to your views is dense? Is that the arrogance of decrepitude or the intoxication of youth?

I belong to the Black Swan brigade myself. Certainty is contagion. It is also a bedmate of totalitarianism.

There has been rather alot of chit chat on the forum over the past weeks subscribing to the view that TPTB are going to unveil their misshapen and ill-begotten plots at this G20 summit. Sorry i don't have the leisure to locate where or when i have seen it.

Gordon Brown, Fabian Society member.
CFR is the American branch of the Fabians.
NWO is no surprise.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AfhqY8WG56E

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ukpress/article/ALeqM5g3nKFaPdy-7cfukcqtB6xgjVWGww

Experts are digesting the G20's "historic" trillion-dollar bid to pull the world out of recession after Gordon Brown hailed the creation of a "new world order".

http://www.freedom-force.org/freedomcontent.cfm?fuseaction=fabianwindow

 

[raiha]

Yes Pcosmar (said she patiently) I've read the books...I've worn the t-shirt and I've chewed the chewing gum. I am in limbo. I am not 100% about anything. I mistrust the IMF and the G20 and TPTB. My philosophical roots differ from some of our more vocal members.
I think the main culprits in the mess we all find ourselves in are greed, hatred and ignorance which reside in the hearts of all humans, not just a few villains in high places and dance naked in the groves of Bilderburg.