NV CAUCUS-GOERS: Please post your observations / live results in this thread!

[Mark37snj]

sensitive topics are better in hot topics, but this thread, like debate threads is just going to make people blow off steam, and that is all there is to it. There are also trolls provoking stuff, like on debate days. But I think people here can hold their own.

everyone's opinion, as always, is only their own.

Agreed, its that its becoming more relevant as the vote totals come in.

 

[KingNothing]

Seriously, people think voter fraud is conspiratorial? WE DO IT TO EVERY OTHER COUNTRY WE TOUCH, WHY WOULDN'T WE DO IT TO OUR OWN?

Trillions are on the line here people.

It's really, really, really hard to juke the numbers in a caucus. I mean, we literally have Ron Paul supporters there while the votes are being counted. On paper ballots. After our supporters had a chance to speak to every person in the room, and get a feel for what the makeup of the room was.

If the numbers in ANY precinct differ from what our supporters expected, we will know about it.

 

[Austrian Econ Disciple]

Anything come about from those missing ballots that were stolen and taken behind a gated community?

 

[carterm]

campaign needs to come out and question results.

 

[jllundqu]

Down by 7% with almost half reporting... starting to think NV let us down. I watched the special 'late-night' caucus on CNN that showed about 12 RP supporters killing it! Someone needs to make a tube video of that... Im depressed and going to bed now.. lord willing I will awake to good news... but not counting on it. What the hell happened?? I thought 2nd place was in the bag. This was supposed to be an easy 2nd! If we can't get the vote out here... the rest of the country will only be harder.

 

[driller80545]

Guys, has it ever occurred to you that maybe not enough American people just do not support Ron Paul?

dammit.

 

[pauliticalfan]

There are so many crazy things happening.

A. It's taking a ridiculous amount of time.

B. Elko went from 100% reporting to 50% and then back to 100%.

C. The entrance polls for Washoe (which were much more pro-Paul) have been completely off so far.

D. Religious affidavits.

Something crazy is happening, and I never buy into conspiracies. This is messed up.

This. I refuse to believe the final tally. We've been following this thing all day, and the evidence is there. They're messing with the numbers to hurt us. It's bullshit.

 

[affa]

Just use some logic. Romney wouldn't want to see Gingrich gain support. Paul wouldn't want to see Gingrich gain support. Same with Gingrich in regards to Paul and Romney. They all have people in place to ensure that no significant funnybusiness happens.

I disagree with your 'logic'. If Santorum's and Gingrich's role in this is 'spoiler' to Ron Paul, then pushing Ron Paul down the ladder at every opportunity would matter. Once he is considered 'finished', Santorum and Gingrich bow out and endorse Romney for some sort of consideration.

It's pure conjecture, sure, but it's just as 'logical' as your argument, with different base assumptions. You think this is between Romney, Gingrich, Santorum, and Ron Paul. I don't think Santorum or Gingrich have any plans to win this. I also think the GOP establishment has a vested interest in removing Ron Paul from the conversation, if only because he forces the GOP to deal with issues they'd rather ignore (and that's not even getting into the MIC, etc)

 

[IterTemporis]

Doesn't a double negative equal a positive?

Yes, I believe he meant that not enough American people support Ron Paul.

 

[KingNothing]

This. I refuse to believe the final tally. We've been following this thing all day, and the evidence is there. They're messing with the numbers to hurt us. It's bullshit.

Who is they? What evidence do you have? And why do you have this evidence, and not people in the campaign or people we had at each precinct who stood and watched the votes being counted?

 

[Kregisen]

Can someone get a youtube of the speeches in the late night caucus on cnn? I missed it by a few minutes...

 

[mosquitobite]

I disagree with your 'logic'. If Santorum's and Gingrich's role in this is 'spoiler' to Ron Paul, then pushing Ron Paul down the ladder at every opportunity would matter. Once he is considered 'finished', Santorum and Gingrich bow out and endorse Romney for some sort of consideration.

It's pure conjecture, sure, but it's just as 'logical' as your argument, with different base assumptions. You think this is between Romney, Gingrich, Santorum, and Ron Paul. I don't think Santorum or Gingrich have any plans to win this. I also think the GOP establishment has a vested interest in removing Ron Paul from the conversation, if only because he forces the GOP to deal with issues they'd rather ignore (and that's not even getting into the MIC, etc)

yep! +1

 

[RDM]

Guys, has it ever occurred to you that maybe not enough American people just do not support Ron Paul?

That may be possible, but I think the "real" problem is there are a large number of Ron Paul supporters who don't give a crap about voting and don't take this important process seriously.

 

[carterm]

saw this on twitter

AScreamingBird
VOTER FRAUD in #Nevada #Gop #caucus #MSM #CNN reports #RonPaul has 2320 votes then placed a new screen in front showing 1856 votes

 

[sailingaway]

saw this on twitter

AScreamingBird
VOTER FRAUD in #Nevada #Gop #caucus #MSM #CNN reports #RonPaul has 2320 votes then placed a new screen in front showing 1856 votes

leave it, no one has to jump to conclusions of voter fraud, the votes aren't even all counted yet.

 

[CTRattlesnake]

When is clark county going to get going???!!

 

[Adam West]

This. I refuse to believe the final tally. We've been following this thing all day, and the evidence is there. They're messing with the numbers to hurt us. It's bullshit.

The Elko numbers is what troubles me most.

A littlehere...A little there... It all adds up and changes the dynamics.

 

[Austrian Econ Disciple]

saw this on twitter

AScreamingBird
VOTER FRAUD in #Nevada #Gop #caucus #MSM #CNN reports #RonPaul has 2320 votes then placed a new screen in front showing 1856 votes

Yeah I brought that up earlier. Paul was the only one to lose votes. That's why he was 5% or so down from Gingrich. All sorts of shady shit going on.

 

[pauliticalfan]

Seriously, what the hell is going on in Washoe County??? I've heard people say they were counting the ballots like 12 hours ago and should have numbers momentarily, and then... nothing. The Nevada GOP website has way higher numbers for Newt than CNN. It's absurd. There's a lot of crap going on.

 

[KingNothing]

I disagree with your 'logic'. If Santorum's and Gingrich's role in this is 'spoiler' to Ron Paul, then pushing Ron Paul down the ladder at every opportunity would matter. Once he is considered 'finished', Santorum and Gingrich bow out and endorse Romney for some sort of consideration.

It's pure conjecture, sure, but it's just as 'logical' as your argument, with different base assumptions. You think this is between Romney, Gingrich, Santorum, and Ron Paul. I don't think Santorum or Gingrich have any plans to win this. I also think the GOP establishment has a vested interest in removing Ron Paul from the conversation, if only because he forces the GOP to deal with issues they'd rather ignore (and that's not even getting into the MIC, etc)

Newt Gingrich spends every ounce of his creepy newt energy smearing Romney, NOT Ron Paul. And everything about his personality conveys the message that he is a man who wants to play second fiddle to no one and that he cares only about his own advancement. You honestly think a guy like that, especially one prone to firing off one poorly thought-out comment after another, is a lynch pin in the movement to suppress Ron Paul support?

And Santorum has support of the religious folks. He's a very poor man's Mike Huckabee. As ridiculous as he is, he appeals to a certain percentage of the electorate.