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I think it's wrong to blame everything on the US and our military.
Newsflash: we are not the only bad guy in the entire world
North Korea Torpedos South Korean Naval Vessel
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I think it's wrong to blame everything on the US and our military.
Newsflash: we are not the only bad guy in the entire world
BlackTerrel
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Where is the proof that there was an earthquake in Haiti?
pcosmar
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And I re-read my quote,,,several times. I can't see where I said anything like that.
Of course they would be high on the list of "usual suspects".
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The rest of the "bad guys" in this regard are not my concern.
The fact is that our own government and military machine cannot be trusted.
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They said it could have very well been a collision with an under water rock.
And right above this i have a "The International Korean Dating Site! KoreanCupid.com - Korean Dating and Singles" advertisment.
Oh well. NK wouldn't be one of the countries i think we could install a government if we ever took it over.
And right above this i have a "The International Korean Dating Site! KoreanCupid.com - Korean Dating and Singles" advertisment.
Oh well. NK wouldn't be one of the countries i think we could install a government if we ever took it over.
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i think NK is looking for bribes like food and oil.
We paid them off last time they got in a huff and started stomping their little feet.
We paid them off last time they got in a huff and started stomping their little feet.
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http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/nation/2010/03/113_63126.html
Navy Patrol Boat Sinks in West Sea
By Lee Tae-hoon
Staff Reporter
A South Korean Navy patrol ship sank off the west coast at around 9:45 p.m. Friday near the disputed maritime border with North Korea, officials said.
As of 9:00 a.m. Saturday, 58 of the 104-crew members were rescued from the 1,200-ton ship Cheonan, but some 40 others were missing,
President Lee Myung-bak convened an emergency meeting, while the military deployed patrol boats and helicopters in a rescue operation.
The possibility of a North Korean attack was raised when local residents reported having heard "loud artillery firing" for at least 10 minutes from 11 p.m., according to Yonhap News.
Military officials were quoted as saying a South Korean vessel fired a shot northward at an unidentified ship, but the Joint Chiefs of Staff said the object caught on radar appears to have been a flock of birds.
"We have been unable to pinpoint the exact cause of the incident as of this moment," the Navy said.
Sources say an unexplained explosion in the rear of the ship may have ripped a hole in the vessel's bottom.
The United States said it had no evidence that North Korea had been involved in the tragic sinking.
"Let's not jump to conclusions here," State Department spokesman Philip Crowley said.
"I'm not aware of any evidence to that effect. But I think the authoritative source here would be the South Korean government."
The ship, which sank Saturday, was first deployed by the South Korean Navy in 1989, and was equipped with missiles and torpedoes, according to officials.
The incident comes amid increased tension between the two Koreas, which technically remain at war since the 1950-1953 Korean War ended in a truce, not a peace treaty.
North Korea has said in recent weeks it is bolstering its defense in response to joint annual South Korean-U.S. military drills that were held this month.
The disputed inter-Korean border in the West Sea was the scene of deadly naval clashes in 1999 and 2002.
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Hmmm.... North and South Korea don't agree on where the border is... that's a recipie for disaster.
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Navy Patrol Boat Sinks in West Sea
By Lee Tae-hoon
Staff Reporter
A South Korean Navy patrol ship sank off the west coast at around 9:45 p.m. Friday near the disputed maritime border with North Korea, officials said.
As of 9:00 a.m. Saturday, 58 of the 104-crew members were rescued from the 1,200-ton ship Cheonan, but some 40 others were missing,
President Lee Myung-bak convened an emergency meeting, while the military deployed patrol boats and helicopters in a rescue operation.
The possibility of a North Korean attack was raised when local residents reported having heard "loud artillery firing" for at least 10 minutes from 11 p.m., according to Yonhap News.
Military officials were quoted as saying a South Korean vessel fired a shot northward at an unidentified ship, but the Joint Chiefs of Staff said the object caught on radar appears to have been a flock of birds.
"We have been unable to pinpoint the exact cause of the incident as of this moment," the Navy said.
Sources say an unexplained explosion in the rear of the ship may have ripped a hole in the vessel's bottom.
The United States said it had no evidence that North Korea had been involved in the tragic sinking.
"Let's not jump to conclusions here," State Department spokesman Philip Crowley said.
"I'm not aware of any evidence to that effect. But I think the authoritative source here would be the South Korean government."
The ship, which sank Saturday, was first deployed by the South Korean Navy in 1989, and was equipped with missiles and torpedoes, according to officials.
The incident comes amid increased tension between the two Koreas, which technically remain at war since the 1950-1953 Korean War ended in a truce, not a peace treaty.
North Korea has said in recent weeks it is bolstering its defense in response to joint annual South Korean-U.S. military drills that were held this month.
The disputed inter-Korean border in the West Sea was the scene of deadly naval clashes in 1999 and 2002.
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Hmmm.... North and South Korea don't agree on where the border is... that's a recipie for disaster.
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http://english.yonhapnews.co.kr/national/2010/03/27/4/0301000000AEN20100327000800315F.HTML
The incident comes amid increased tension between the two Koreas, which technically remain at war since the 1950-1953 Korean War ended in a truce, not a peace treaty. North Korea has said in recent weeks it is bolstering its defense in response to joint South Korean-U.S. military drills that were held this month.
We're STILL at war with N. Korea? Great...
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The incident comes amid increased tension between the two Koreas, which technically remain at war since the 1950-1953 Korean War ended in a truce, not a peace treaty. North Korea has said in recent weeks it is bolstering its defense in response to joint South Korean-U.S. military drills that were held this month.
We're STILL at war with N. Korea? Great...
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Eh, bad timing. Kimmy might have wanted to lay off with the daily threat against South Korea, today.
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http://english.yonhapnews.co.kr/national/2010/03/27/8/0301000000AEN20100327001600315F.HTML
"There is no further progress in the efforts," a Cheong Wa Dae official said. "Divers will be dispatched to the scene to check the wreckage of the ship."
The 1,200-ton "Cheonan" ship began to sink at around 9:45 p.m. Friday near a South Korean island just south of the Northern Limit Line, which serves as an inter-Korean maritime border but is unacknowledged by the North.
The president had convened an emergency meeting of the ministers shortly after the incident including Defense Minister Kim Tae-young, Unification Minister Hyun In-taek, and National Intelligence Service chief Won Sei-hoon. Lee ordered the military to make every effort to rescue the missing soldiers who were on board.
Cheong Wa Dae officials were cautious in discussing whether North Korea was involved in any way, saying only the government by practice would keep every possibility open.
"There is no further progress in the efforts," a Cheong Wa Dae official said. "Divers will be dispatched to the scene to check the wreckage of the ship."
The 1,200-ton "Cheonan" ship began to sink at around 9:45 p.m. Friday near a South Korean island just south of the Northern Limit Line, which serves as an inter-Korean maritime border but is unacknowledged by the North.
The president had convened an emergency meeting of the ministers shortly after the incident including Defense Minister Kim Tae-young, Unification Minister Hyun In-taek, and National Intelligence Service chief Won Sei-hoon. Lee ordered the military to make every effort to rescue the missing soldiers who were on board.
Cheong Wa Dae officials were cautious in discussing whether North Korea was involved in any way, saying only the government by practice would keep every possibility open.
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"why do you hate Amerika?"
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/8591366.stm
Sunk South Korea naval ship Cheonan 'split in half'
The force of Friday's mysterious explosion which sunk a South Korean naval ship appears to have split the vessel's hull in two, officials say.
The two halves are lying on the sea bed but bad weather has prevented military divers from reaching the wreckage.
Forty-six sailors are missing and rescue workers say it is unlikely that anyone could have survived three days in the near-freezing water.
The cause of the explosion on the 1,200-tonne Cheonan remains unclear.
The BBC's John Sudworth in Seoul says several possibilities have been suggested:
* an accidental onboard explosion
* a blast caused by hitting rocks or sea mines
* or a deliberate outside attack.
The naval patrol vessel sank near the disputed maritime border with North Korea but military officials say there is no indication the North was involved.
Fifty-eight sailors, including the captain, were rescued from one of the South's worst sea disasters.
Some rescue-workers say it is still possible that some people could have survived in air-pockets inside the ship, although the water in the Yellow Sea is about 4C.
After visiting the disaster site, Defence Minister Kim Tae-young said: "The vessel appeared to have been split into half," reports South Korea's Yonhap news agency.
Although the waters are fairly shallow, the exact location of the wreckage has not yet been located, according to defence ministry spokesman Won Tae-jae.
Navy and coast guard vessels, as well as air force planes, are still scouring the area near South Korea's Baeknyeong Island.
A group of 80 family members have sailed around the crash site and watched the rescue efforts, the AP news agency reports.
But some relatives are accusing the navy of a cover-up, saying the ship was in need of repair.
'Save me'
Earlier, the ship's rescued captain has been recounting what happened.
"There was the sound of an explosion and the ship keeled to the right. We lost power and telecommunications," Yonhap quoted Choi Won-il as saying.
"I was trapped in the cabin for five minutes before my colleagues broke the window in and let me out. When I got out, the stern had disappeared."
A number of the crew jumped into the water, Yonhap said.
"Yells and screams filled the air," witness Kim Jin-ho, a seaman who was on a local passenger ship bound for Baeknyeong, told cable news channel YTN.
"Marines on deck were desperately shouting: 'Save me!"'
South Korean President Lee Myung-bak convened an emergency meeting of security officials and said all possible causes for the sinking would be investigated.
He ordered the military to focus on rescuing the sailors.
There were initial reports that another South Korean ship had fired shots toward an unidentified vessel, but officials later speculated the target had been a flock of birds.
The incident comes at a time of tension between the two Koreas. International talks aimed at ending the communist North's nuclear ambitions have been stalled for months.
North and South Korea are still in a official state of war because the 1950-53 Korean War ended only in a truce.
Since then, they have fought three bloody skirmishes in the Yellow Sea.
In January, North Korea fired about 30 artillery shells not far from Baeknyeong. South Korea fired 100 warning shots in response, but no injuries were reported.
South Korea recognises the Northern Limit Line, drawn unilaterally by the US-led United Nations Command to demarcate the sea border at the end of the Korean War. The line has never been accepted by North Korea.
Sunk South Korea naval ship Cheonan 'split in half'
The force of Friday's mysterious explosion which sunk a South Korean naval ship appears to have split the vessel's hull in two, officials say.
The two halves are lying on the sea bed but bad weather has prevented military divers from reaching the wreckage.
Forty-six sailors are missing and rescue workers say it is unlikely that anyone could have survived three days in the near-freezing water.
The cause of the explosion on the 1,200-tonne Cheonan remains unclear.
The BBC's John Sudworth in Seoul says several possibilities have been suggested:
* an accidental onboard explosion
* a blast caused by hitting rocks or sea mines
* or a deliberate outside attack.
The naval patrol vessel sank near the disputed maritime border with North Korea but military officials say there is no indication the North was involved.
Fifty-eight sailors, including the captain, were rescued from one of the South's worst sea disasters.
Some rescue-workers say it is still possible that some people could have survived in air-pockets inside the ship, although the water in the Yellow Sea is about 4C.
After visiting the disaster site, Defence Minister Kim Tae-young said: "The vessel appeared to have been split into half," reports South Korea's Yonhap news agency.
Although the waters are fairly shallow, the exact location of the wreckage has not yet been located, according to defence ministry spokesman Won Tae-jae.
Navy and coast guard vessels, as well as air force planes, are still scouring the area near South Korea's Baeknyeong Island.
A group of 80 family members have sailed around the crash site and watched the rescue efforts, the AP news agency reports.
But some relatives are accusing the navy of a cover-up, saying the ship was in need of repair.
'Save me'
Earlier, the ship's rescued captain has been recounting what happened.
"There was the sound of an explosion and the ship keeled to the right. We lost power and telecommunications," Yonhap quoted Choi Won-il as saying.
"I was trapped in the cabin for five minutes before my colleagues broke the window in and let me out. When I got out, the stern had disappeared."
A number of the crew jumped into the water, Yonhap said.
"Yells and screams filled the air," witness Kim Jin-ho, a seaman who was on a local passenger ship bound for Baeknyeong, told cable news channel YTN.
"Marines on deck were desperately shouting: 'Save me!"'
South Korean President Lee Myung-bak convened an emergency meeting of security officials and said all possible causes for the sinking would be investigated.
He ordered the military to focus on rescuing the sailors.
There were initial reports that another South Korean ship had fired shots toward an unidentified vessel, but officials later speculated the target had been a flock of birds.
The incident comes at a time of tension between the two Koreas. International talks aimed at ending the communist North's nuclear ambitions have been stalled for months.
North and South Korea are still in a official state of war because the 1950-53 Korean War ended only in a truce.
Since then, they have fought three bloody skirmishes in the Yellow Sea.
In January, North Korea fired about 30 artillery shells not far from Baeknyeong. South Korea fired 100 warning shots in response, but no injuries were reported.
South Korea recognises the Northern Limit Line, drawn unilaterally by the US-led United Nations Command to demarcate the sea border at the end of the Korean War. The line has never been accepted by North Korea.
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The Irony to me is one of our "allies" were attacked and we do nothing, yet we have been at war with several countries who have never done anything to us or our allies before we were there.
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If the ship went in half, then most likely it was a North Korea torpedo.
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I don't find anything "most likely." There is much speculation,, and accusation. But little proof and an subdued response from the south.
I suppose in the realm of speculation,, it could be very possible that the SK ship strayed or made an incursion too close to the north and hit a mine. Their own damn fault.
This would easily explain there subdue response.
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