North Dakota currently voting for delegates

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Mod: This was posted in a Missouri thread when the caucus was shut down after repeated rules violations Rules violations can include refusal to COUNT the division of the vote so long as the vote isn't overwhelmingly clear visually. See discussion below:

The chair clearly had this strategy planned out and that's why he didn't want a clear recording of it. I will repeat: I know a bit about party rules and Roberts Rules and they don't make any difference against this gambit. I would appreciate if there's some advice from a rules expert that will overcome the "deaf chair" maneuver. But I don't see how that's possible.

It's addressed in (RONR (11th ed.) pp. 650-653). A member of the assembly can stand in place of the chair (without recognition of the chair) to take a vote if the chair chooses to ignore a non-dilatory point of order 3 times. If the entire room is quiet except for the presiding chair (who is ignoring the member) and the member taking a vote in his place, it's easy to simply listen to the person taking a vote in his place. What effectively happens is the chair, who is behaving out of order, is simply ignored by the members in the room while they vote to remove him.
 
Looking at the NDGOP schedule....

From 9:30-10:30 CST

Saturday, March 31, 2012 (continued)
Welcome - Mayor John Warford
Nomination and Election of Temporary Chair and Secretary Appointment of Sergeants-at-Arms
Appointment of Committees
Rules, Credentials, Resolutions, Permanent Organization
Appointment of Tellers and Parliamentarian Report of Credentials Committee Nomination and Election of Permanent Chair and Secretary
Appointment of Assistant Chair and Assistant Secretary
Report from Rules Committee
Report from the Resolutions Committee Report from Elephants Celebrated
Election of National Delegates and Alternates
 
Probably early afternoon their time before news will come out. It takes a few hours to get through all the introductory speeches and the recognition of candidates at a convention. Then voting, counting all the paper ballots, etc.
 
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Josh Schreiner ‏ @Schreiner4House Reply Retweeted Favorite · Open
Convention floor fight over national delegates. Getting intense. #NDGOP
 
wow

#NDGOP national delegate slate gives Paul 2, Santorum 6, Romney 20. Delegates voting now. Actual results coming.

but...

Convention floor fight over national delegates. Getting intense. #NDGOP
 
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Kristen M. Daum ‏ @kristendaum Reply Retweeted Favorite · Open
Stein just told a delegate: "Get your eyes checked" - in response to delegate saying he can't read the names on the screen. #ndgop2012
 
12m Kristen M. Daum ‏ @kristendaum Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
Erickstad: I think that's a small and fair request. #ndgop2012
12m Kristen M. Daum ‏ @kristendaum Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
Karen Erickstad (Paul supporter): Why can't we have alphabetized list rather than a preselected one chosen by small group? #ndgop2012
13m Kristen M. Daum ‏ @kristendaum Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
So, theoretically, they should have more supporters among the delegate field than @MittRomney #ndgop2012
14m Kristen M. Daum ‏ @kristendaum Reply Retweeted Favorite · Open
But @RickSantorum won the lion's share of votes in North Dakota's Caucus, followed by @RonPaul. #ndgop2012
14m Kristen M. Daum ‏ @kristendaum Reply Retweeted Favorite · Open
Problem at hand: of North Dakota's 28 delegate to nat'l convention - 20 are supposedly @MittRomney supporters. #ndgop2012
 
Old lady says delegates hv been chose based on whos been active in the party not those who just"walked on" #ndgop #ndgopconvention #ronpaul
 
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