Noncitizen Voting Isn’t An Issue In Federal Elections, Regardless Of Conspiracy Theories

[Anti Federalist]

I'll wait for wonderful wisdom of AF and [MENTION=65299]Swordsmyth[/MENTION] to 'splain that for us

I have explained, over and over.

You would never agree to it, because you do not believe in the concept of a "nation", you want this one destroyed and you hate the people that live in it now.

So 'natch, you'd have no incentive to join me in trying to enact my ideas, and I understand that.

But I got more respect for you than to give that dog turd of an OP you posted any credence whatsoever.

 

[Anti Federalist]

When in doubt, change the subject.

How am I changing the subject?

The subject is immigration, or more correctly, invasion and how the invaders gain power.

You dismissed these power grabs as "harmless.

I say it is not harmless, not by a long stretch and gave you a current example of why I think that.

 

[Anti Federalist]

[MENTION=3169]Anti Federalist[/MENTION] , first tackle the true and real problems before blaming a few immigrants:

20 million invaders are not a "few immigrants".

 

[PAF]

I have explained, over and over.

You would never agree to it, because you do not believe in the concept of a "nation", you want this one destroyed and you hate the people that live in it now.

So 'natch, you'd have no incentive to join me in trying to enact my ideas, and I understand that.

But I got more respect for you than to give that dog turd of an OP you posted any credence whatsoever.

Well what can I say. Maybe I'm too greedy with my money and see the only actual solution of defunding the programs first before taking any other action that will restrict my freedoms, such as the 4th Amendment and the right to travel freely.

It's all good, brother, I luv ya too... But I've been around the block too many times to see how things really work ;-)

Did you watch Ginger's video above? That was nothing compared to what I experienced down in Tampa! By "republicans"!!!

 

[PAF]

20 million invaders are not a "few immigrants".

They don't sit in Senate Round Table meetings or lobby the government for MIC/BigPharm contracts to make a sh|t dent of a difference. But the lobbyists make sure that they can "create problems" out of thin air in order to cash in on their Public/Private Partnerships.

 

[jmdrake]

There is a caveat to that.

https://www.alreporter.com/2024/08/...tential-noncitizens-from-alabama-voter-rolls/

Secretary of State Wes Allen announced Tuesday that he is instructing all county boards of registrars to purge 3,251 potential noncitizens from Alabama voter rolls.

Allen has repeatedly questioned the possibility of noncitizens voting in Alabama and says repeated requests for assistance from the federal government have gone unanswered.

“I have been clear that I will not tolerate the participation of noncitizens in our elections,” Allen said. “I have even gone so far as to testify before a United States Senate Committee regarding the importance of this issue. We have examined the current voter file in an attempt to identify anyone who appears on that list that has been issued a noncitizen identification number.”

Not all of the voters are necessarily noncitizens today; Allen noted that some of the individuals may have become naturalized citizens since they were originally issued the noncitizen identification number. The process initiated by the Secretary of State’s Office will allow those naturalized citizens to update their information on a State of Alabama Voter Registration Form and, once verified, vote in the state’s elections.
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So we're talking 3,200 out of 3.8 million registered voters and we don't know how many of the 3,200 were already naturalized citizens.

 

[jmdrake]

It is against the law, so it doesn't happen. Official government statistics prove this, as there are almost no convictions for this crime. Trust The Math, trust The Science, comrade. Big Brother is your friend, and does not lie.

Well Trump had 4 years to do the prosecutions of all of these non-citizen voters. Just saying.

Edit: Meanwhile why do people seem to care ore about this story than the fact that Hunter Biden is now proven to have illegally lobbied the U.S. State Department on behalf of Burisma? I mean I get it. Controversy dirves threads. But still...

 

[acptulsa]

How am I changing the subject?

Oh, you're not. All of our elections have always been accomplished by murdering the loser. We have always been a banana republic. So of course elections and murders are synonymous.

Now if the man calls for a do-over and promises that this time he will actually try, then the least we can do is say, "Baaaa!" Er, I mean, "Yes!"

 

[spudea]

How can you say that when it is never checked or allowed to be investigated in Democrat areas. Plus, the #1 crime in USA is identity theft. I could easily get someone else's info and vote twice, and it would look legit. These shenanigans happen in every election. The only question is how extensive, and if you never investigate, you cannot claim it doesn't exist.

 

[acptulsa]

These shenanigans happen in every election. The only question is how extensive, and if you never investigate, you cannot claim it doesn't exist.

So why do Republicans salivate like Pavlov's dogs over mythical voting aliens when we know for a fact that Democrats keep voting after they're dead? Maybe we should tackle that like it's the longstanding problem and therefore almost certainly more extensive, dontcha think?

I'm betting fraudulent mail-in ballots are a much bigger problem, too. And Dominion machines. Why do voting aliens need scrutiny more than these older and likely more widespread problems?

 

[PAF]

How can you say that when it is never checked or allowed to be investigated in Democrat areas. Plus, the #1 crime in USA is identity theft. I could easily get someone else's info and vote twice, and it would look legit. These shenanigans happen in every election. The only question is how extensive, and if you never investigate, you cannot claim it doesn't exist.

You have 3 options:

1. Understand that government is controlled/run by special interest, and no matter how well intended, power will eventually corrupt, and the only logical solution is to not give consent.

2. If you are so concerned with "voter" fraud [while continuing to ignore the true corruption at the high levels behind closed doors], take the responsibility and work the precinct yourself, and urge others on your community to do the same in their precincts. Locally, where it should be.

3. Let the government provide "solutions" so that you don't have to spend time bothering with it.


I really liked how you singled out Democrats but didn't bother to mention the equal corruption among Republicans. Faction before blood ;-)

 

[TheCount]

How can you say that when it is never checked or allowed to be investigated in Democrat areas. Plus, the #1 crime in USA is identity theft. I could easily get someone else's info and vote twice, and it would look legit. These shenanigans happen in every election. The only question is how extensive, and if you never investigate, you cannot claim it doesn't exist.

How you can be sure that bigfoot and the mothman haven't been voting in elections? Shouldn't someone look into that?

 

[nobody's_hero]

Here's why people are stoopid:

When I worked the Ron Paul campaign back in 2012, every single one of my Ron Paul Delegates in multiple precincts and Congressional Districts WON hands down. It was by so much that it couldn't be disputed.

And then everybody from everywhere ran around with their heads cut off accusing Democrats of STEALING the Primary Election because Flip-Flop-Mitt's delegates didn't win a single freaking one

And then there are people like you who demand more laws, more ID, more government control, more police-state, and then wonder why freedom isn't popular and folks like Ron Paul can't win.

CARBON YOU are the problem.

I really don't see how AF could be the problem.

There has only been one presidency in my lifetime whose administration actually took a serious crack at trying to control the border. Everything else has pretty much been more in-line with your desire to see borders eradicated and millions of people pouring across, willy-nilly.

I think it is safe to say, that if your theory that controlling the border actually led to opportunities to increase the strength of the police state, we would have seen the federal government take some serious action to do so, and they would have done it yesterday.

Your logic simply does not translate into reality.

The federal government obviously sees some usefulness to these people, and it does not involve telling them to go through the proper channels to enter the country. It isn't a stretch to suppose they see some usefulness to letting them vote, as well.

 

[PAF]

I really don't see how AF could be the problem.

There has only been one presidency in my lifetime whose administration actually took a serious crack at trying to control the border. Everything else has pretty much been more in-line with your desire to see borders eradicated and millions of people pouring across, willy-nilly.

I think it is safe to say, that if your theory that controlling the border actually led to opportunities to increase the strength of the police state, we would have seen the federal government take some serious action to do so, and they would have done it yesterday.

Your logic simply does not translate into reality.

Yeah, I want them pouring in Because revolving-door statist solutions that you and everybody else support works so well; seal that border, restrict freedom to travel freely, get that eVerify, and other ID, more fed bureaucrats and courts to process them, holding cells at my tax-expense. And don't forget that next solution: Nation-wide "Stop and Frisk", and complete annihilation of Posse Comitatus:

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...-for-Clarity-on-Domestic-Military-Deployments

Whatever, [MENTION=16095]nobody's_hero[/MENTION] , I'm throwing my support behind Kamala Harris. I've had enough of your "Patriot Act, TSA, $8+T republican presidents. At least under her, the repuG base just might push back instead of giving more passes to the R in chief.

That way you can label me and call me whatever name you want. Cause I've had it.

 

[Anti Federalist]

Yeah, I want them pouring in Because revolving-door statist solutions that you and everybody else support works so well; seal that border, restrict freedom to travel freely, get that eVerify, and other ID, more fed bureaucrats and courts to process them, holding cells at my tax-expense. And don't forget that next solution: Nation-wide "Stop and Frisk", and complete annihilation of Posse Comitatus

My plan requires none of that.

It would stop the invasion in a month.

At least under her, the repuG base just might push back instead of giving more passes to the R in chief.

That's been the plan for the last 20 years or so.

It has not worked at all.

 

[PAF]

My plan requires none of that.

It would stop the invasion in a month.

It isn't your solution AF, it's all of your and everybody else in this country who screams bloody murder without identifying the root cause and holding your own party accountable. And now to address your solution concern they have a plan that will be happily implemented - by design.

Keep screaming bloody murder in that "taking things from white people" thread. I'm certain they're taking notice to that and will come up with a "solution" for that too.

 

[Swordsmyth]

Utter and complete lies.

But thank you for continuing to show you are nothing but a parrot for the left and MSM.

 

[Anti Federalist]

Almost 3 Million Noncitizens Could Vote Illegally in U.S. Election, Study Says

 

[acptulsa]

Utter and complete lies.

But thank you for continuing to show you are nothing but a parrot for the left and MSM.

Were you talking to anyone in particular about anything in particular?

Like Trump's announcement that he wants to do New York-style stop and frisk nationwide? Is that what you're alleging is a lie?