Noam Chomsky 2b Interviewed 2nite about Ron Paul and the Libertarian Movement

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:cool:Check it out, My Marine Corps Buddy got to interview Noam Chomsky about Ron Paul, and from what he told me it's 8-10 minutes on Ron Paul, very interesting.

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He has said some bad stuff recently, some good stuff on specific instances, but I think he is worried about losing the left at this point. I'm not going to watch it, but I'm sure I'll read about it later.
 
He's a socialist/ left winger. Previously he've argued that Ron Paul stands for libertarian beliefs that will open the doors up for fascism. Its amazing how this guy is so high esteemed as a "intellectual thinker". Some people treat him like a prophet or something, as he "owns" the truth, on every matter he gets asked on. He is overrated. If asked on foreign affairs, he will agree, but he will NEVER endorse libertarianism. He is a socialist, and based on how he builds his argument on Ron Pauls libertarianism, he will portray it as a gateway to fascism. Its just an opinion, its not based in hard evidence or facts.
 
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He's a socialist/ left winger. Previously he've argued that Ron Paul stands for libertarian beliefs that will open the doors up for fascism. Its amazing how this screw is so high eesteemed as a "intellectual thinker". Some people treat him like a prophet or something. He is overrated. If asked on foreign affairs, he will agree, but he will NEVER endorse libertarianism. He is a socialist.

He`s some kinda` left wing anarcho-syndicalist.

At the moment he`s the guru of the Occupy movement alongside Adbusters.

Guy has some really fascinating insights into how people are brainwashed, watching TV& football all day long like a bunch of zombies, being totally disconnected from reality. He`s right on some social issues and about governments in bed with corporations but he`s totally off on economics. But what can you expect of a linguistics college teacher who`s never had any real experience in the private sector?
 
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For him Bolivia is a real democracy while US is some kinda` corpocracy aka fascism which is not that far from the truth in a way.

He sees corporations as leeches that take away money from the common folk. What people like him fail to understand is that a corporation will eventually generate employment and won`t just sit on the cash they make. Corporations also tend to be WAY more efficient than governments.
Of course, there`s the real issue of when certain corporations become too large and live off governments(corpocracy/fascism), getting subsidies, bailouts and all the good stuff. This is the reason, however, why governments need to be as small as possible, so that such major influence won`t be able to take hold.
 
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Chomsky isn't anarcho-anything anymore. He's a full-blown authoritarian leftist. He's quite intelligent, but he's not a real intellectual, because he doesn't actually base his worldview on his intellect. Instead, his whole outlook is predicated on an entirely prejudicial hatred of anything he associates with the "right wing." He'll endorse virtually any kind of tyranny, as long as it's "left wing" enough for him (the Democrats are too capitalist for him though), and he brings his full brainpower to bear to defend this ideology - and the myth of his "intellectual" persona - in a closed feedback loop. Pinochet? Evil of course...but only because he was right-wing. Pol Pot? Oh, he was "misunderstood." Chomsky likes defending a brutal communist dictator who killed anyone remotely educated for being too educated, and who would have killed him without a thought and slept like a baby. This isn't the worldview of an intellectual...it's the worldview of a completely unreasonable and emotionally driven partisan. (Have we only heard a one-sided, highly propagandized, and even fictional account of the Khmer Rouge in Cambodia? Perhaps, and I wouldn't put anything past our propaganda machine...but any kind of revisionist history coming from Chomsky is likely to be worthless, because he is virtually guaranteed to include and omit facts exclusively on the basis of extreme bias.)

Chomsky uses his near-genius IQ as a mere blackbox tool instead of actually using it for introspection or reflection. He's capable of some brilliant insights regarding US foreign policy and our media culture, but he's only willing to look in those areas because they help him justify what really drives him: his prejudices. He could have been a real intellectual, and he's certainly smart enough for it, but his ego has gotten so out of control that he will never live up to the potential he might have once had. He's become too arrogant and closed-minded, and it shows not only in his aloof defense of left-wing totalitarians, but also in the haughty, dismissive, and intellectually dishonest way he debates people. I've read enough of his criticisms of "American libertarians" (or, um...real libertarians) to know he'll never face our actual views...only straw men.

Let him attack Ron Paul if it feeds his ego, or let him defend Ron Paul if he's afraid of losing his relevance. It doesn't matter to me. I feel a bit guilty about ranting like this, but he's such a self-serving tool in my eyes, and I'm tired of hearing about him.
 
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Chomsky isn't anarcho-anything anymore. He's a full-blown authoritarian leftist. He's quite intelligent, but he's not a real intellectual, because he doesn't actually base his worldview on his intellect. Instead, his whole outlook is predicated on an entirely prejudicial hatred of anything he associates with the "right wing." He'll endorse virtually any kind of tyranny, as long as it's "left wing" enough for him (the Democrats are too capitalist for him though), and he brings his full brainpower to bear to defend this ideology - and the myth of his "intellectual" persona - in a closed feedback loop. Pinochet? Evil...because he was right-wing. Pol Pot? Oh, he was "misunderstood." Chomsky likes defending a brutal communist dictator who killed anyone remotely educated for being too educated, and who would have killed him without a thought and slept like a baby. This isn't the worldview of an intellectual...it's the worldview of a completely unreasonable and emotionally driven partisan. (Have we only heard a one-sided, highly propagandized, and even fictional account of the Khmer Rouge in Cambodia? Perhaps, and I wouldn't put anything past our propaganda machine...but any kind of revisionist history coming from Chomsky is likely to be worthless, because he is virtually guaranteed to include and omit facts exclusively on the basis of extreme bias.)

Chomsky uses his near-genius IQ as a mere blackbox tool instead of actually using it for introspection or reflection. He's capable of some brilliant insights regarding US foreign policy and our media culture, but he's only willing to look in those areas because they help him justify what really drives him: his prejudices. He could have been a real intellectual, and he's certainly smart enough for it, but his ego has gotten so out of control that he will never live up to the potential he might have once had. He's become too arrogant and closed-minded, and it's shows not only in his aloof defense of left-wing totalitarians, but also in the haughty, dismissive, and intellectually dishonest way he debates people. I've read enough of his criticisms of "American libertarians" (or, um...real libertarians) to know he'll never face our actual views...only straw men.

Let him attack Ron Paul if it feeds his ego, or let him defend Ron Paul if he's afraid of losing his relevance. It doesn't matter to me. I feel a bit guilty about ranting like this, but he's such a self-serving tool in my eyes, and I'm tired of hearing about him.

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One of the best summaries of Chomsky I've read in a while. Captured what I was thinking.
 
Chomsky isn't anarcho-anything anymore. He's a full-blown authoritarian leftist. He's quite intelligent, but he's not a real intellectual, because he doesn't actually base his worldview on his intellect. Instead, his whole outlook is predicated on an entirely prejudicial hatred of anything he associates with the "right wing." He'll endorse virtually any kind of tyranny, as long as it's "left wing" enough for him (the Democrats are too capitalist for him though), and he brings his full brainpower to bear to defend this ideology - and the myth of his "intellectual" persona - in a closed feedback loop. Pinochet? Evil...because he was right-wing. Pol Pot? Oh, he was "misunderstood." Chomsky likes defending a brutal communist dictator who killed anyone remotely educated for being too educated, and who would have killed him without a thought and slept like a baby. This isn't the worldview of an intellectual...it's the worldview of a completely unreasonable and emotionally driven partisan. (Have we only heard a one-sided, highly propagandized, and even fictional account of the Khmer Rouge in Cambodia? Perhaps, and I wouldn't put anything past our propaganda machine...but any kind of revisionist history coming from Chomsky is likely to be worthless, because he is virtually guaranteed to include and omit facts exclusively on the basis of extreme bias.)

Chomsky uses his near-genius IQ as a mere blackbox tool instead of actually using it for introspection or reflection. He's capable of some brilliant insights regarding US foreign policy and our media culture, but he's only willing to look in those areas because they help him justify what really drives him: his prejudices. He could have been a real intellectual, and he's certainly smart enough for it, but his ego has gotten so out of control that he will never live up to the potential he might have once had. He's become too arrogant and closed-minded, and it's shows not only in his aloof defense of left-wing totalitarians, but also in the haughty, dismissive, and intellectually dishonest way he debates people. I've read enough of his criticisms of "American libertarians" (or, um...real libertarians) to know he'll never face our actual views...only straw men.

Let him attack Ron Paul if it feeds his ego, or let him defend Ron Paul if he's afraid of losing his relevance. It doesn't matter to me. I feel a bit guilty about ranting like this, but he's such a self-serving tool in my eyes, and I'm tired of hearing about him.

Great post^^^. I always like Mini-Me's insights.
 
Not to be to Draconian but if he's not directly slandering Paul and is getting his name more media (even sub-media) buzz isn't that useful at this stage?
Maybe that's a bit utilitarian for some tastes but I'll take benefits where I can get them for this race. Because with the legal situation this election matters more than most other considerations. (Note1: none of the above is a comment on Chomsky or his validity. Note2: I'm not likely to muster the interest to respond to "but this media is bad for Paul because there are GOP voters who will keep voting for Romney/Santorum if they know someone like Chomsky has anything nice to say about Paul" posts)

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Not to be to Draconian but if he's not directly slandering Paul and is getting his name more media (even sub-media) buzz isn't that useful at this stage?
Maybe that's a bit utilitarian for some tastes but I'll take benefits where I can get them for this race. Because with the legal situation this election matters more than most other considerations. (Note1: none of the above is a comment on Chomsky or his validity. Note2: I'm not likely to muster the interest to respond to "but this media is bad for Paul because there are GOP voters who will keep voting for Romney/Santorum if they know someone like Chomsky has anything nice to say about Paul" posts)

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I'm not sure what part of your view you thought might be draconian...it's pretty much the opposite. It's more moderate than mine, that's for sure! I think it's perfectly fine to want to take advantage of any positive or neutral comments we can get about RP. I just can't stand Chomsky's attitude, that's all. :p
 
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Great... just realize that Noam Chomsky's opinion of Ron Paul... at least in reference to his political philosophy... ain't going to be a lovefest.

Ron and Noam have hugely differing worldviews, although parts of it overlap.
 
I have a ton of respect for both Chomsky and Paul. They've both been essential educators in my life on a large number of various issues. I believe it's best not to hold any one individual's opinion, or "reality tunnel", as absolute truth. I've found myself in disagreement with both Paul and Chomsky on different things, but it doesn't change the fact that they've taught me so much and I can really appreciate that.
 
Chomsky isn't anarcho-anything anymore. He's a full-blown authoritarian leftist. He's quite intelligent, but he's not a real intellectual, because he doesn't actually base his worldview on his intellect. Instead, his whole outlook is predicated on an entirely prejudicial hatred of anything he associates with the "right wing." He'll endorse virtually any kind of tyranny, as long as it's "left wing" enough for him (the Democrats are too capitalist for him though), and he brings his full brainpower to bear to defend this ideology - and the myth of his "intellectual" persona - in a closed feedback loop. Pinochet? Evil of course...but only because he was right-wing. Pol Pot? Oh, he was "misunderstood." Chomsky likes defending a brutal communist dictator who killed anyone remotely educated for being too educated, and who would have killed him without a thought and slept like a baby. This isn't the worldview of an intellectual...it's the worldview of a completely unreasonable and emotionally driven partisan. (Have we only heard a one-sided, highly propagandized, and even fictional account of the Khmer Rouge in Cambodia? Perhaps, and I wouldn't put anything past our propaganda machine...but any kind of revisionist history coming from Chomsky is likely to be worthless, because he is virtually guaranteed to include and omit facts exclusively on the basis of extreme bias.)

Chomsky uses his near-genius IQ as a mere blackbox tool instead of actually using it for introspection or reflection. He's capable of some brilliant insights regarding US foreign policy and our media culture, but he's only willing to look in those areas because they help him justify what really drives him: his prejudices. He could have been a real intellectual, and he's certainly smart enough for it, but his ego has gotten so out of control that he will never live up to the potential he might have once had. He's become too arrogant and closed-minded, and it's shows not only in his aloof defense of left-wing totalitarians, but also in the haughty, dismissive, and intellectually dishonest way he debates people. I've read enough of his criticisms of "American libertarians" (or, um...real libertarians) to know he'll never face our actual views...only straw men.

Let him attack Ron Paul if it feeds his ego, or let him defend Ron Paul if he's afraid of losing his relevance. It doesn't matter to me. I feel a bit guilty about ranting like this, but he's such a self-serving tool in my eyes, and I'm tired of hearing about him.

+rep well said
 
Yea, this interview makes me sad.
Chomsky is a smart dude, but he has a very skewed opinion here. This is twisting everything.
 
Noam Chomsky on Ron Paul





CHOMSKY: Ron Paul's a nice guy. If I had to have dinner with one of the
Republican candidates, I'd prefer to have it with him -- but, his policies
are off the wall.


I mean, sometimes I agree with him. I think we have to end the war in
Afghanistan. But, if you look at the other policies, I mean, it's kind of
shocking and principles that lie behind them (shakes head)....I don't know
what to say about them.
 
Chomsky isn't anarcho-anything anymore. He's a full-blown authoritarian leftist. He's quite intelligent, but he's not a real intellectual, because he doesn't actually base his worldview on his intellect. Instead, his whole outlook is predicated on an entirely prejudicial hatred of anything he associates with the "right wing." He'll endorse virtually any kind of tyranny, as long as it's "left wing" enough for him (the Democrats are too capitalist for him though), and he brings his full brainpower to bear to defend this ideology - and the myth of his "intellectual" persona - in a closed feedback loop. Pinochet? Evil of course...but only because he was right-wing. Pol Pot? Oh, he was "misunderstood." Chomsky likes defending a brutal communist dictator who killed anyone remotely educated for being too educated, and who would have killed him without a thought and slept like a baby. This isn't the worldview of an intellectual...it's the worldview of a completely unreasonable and emotionally driven partisan. (Have we only heard a one-sided, highly propagandized, and even fictional account of the Khmer Rouge in Cambodia? Perhaps, and I wouldn't put anything past our propaganda machine...but any kind of revisionist history coming from Chomsky is likely to be worthless, because he is virtually guaranteed to include and omit facts exclusively on the basis of extreme bias.)

Chomsky uses his near-genius IQ as a mere blackbox tool instead of actually using it for introspection or reflection. He's capable of some brilliant insights regarding US foreign policy and our media culture, but he's only willing to look in those areas because they help him justify what really drives him: his prejudices. He could have been a real intellectual, and he's certainly smart enough for it, but his ego has gotten so out of control that he will never live up to the potential he might have once had. He's become too arrogant and closed-minded, and it's shows not only in his aloof defense of left-wing totalitarians, but also in the haughty, dismissive, and intellectually dishonest way he debates people. I've read enough of his criticisms of "American libertarians" (or, um...real libertarians) to know he'll never face our actual views...only straw men.

Let him attack Ron Paul if it feeds his ego, or let him defend Ron Paul if he's afraid of losing his relevance. It doesn't matter to me. I feel a bit guilty about ranting like this, but he's such a self-serving tool in my eyes, and I'm tired of hearing about him.

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