NOAA Climate Scientist: “We Need to Do Whatever We Can to Reduce Population”

[Noob]

NOAA Climate Scientist: “We Need to Do Whatever We Can to Reduce Population”

One-Child Policy, force sterilizations and euthanizing elderly people is whats it really all about Isn't?

NOAA Climate Scientist: “We Need to Do Whatever We Can to Reduce Population”

John B. Miller, a climate scientist at the University of Colorado, Boulder, doing research for NOAA, has been filmed at a “350″ climate change rally at the Denver statehouse calling for control of population and an end to the “madness” of economic growth.

In what was clearly a passionate and deeply heartfelt speech, Miller told the audience, to cheers and applause:

I would be remiss, as a scientist who studied this, if I didn’t mention the following two things:

The first is that, most importantly, we need to do, as a society, in this country and globally, whatever we can to reduce population. [Cheers, applause.] It’s the ‘master variable’ that controls everything [shouts of "that's right"].

Doing whatever it takes to reduce population is the number one thing for the good Dr Miller. And the second thing? Ending the “madness” of economic growth.

Our whole economic system is based on growth, and growth of our population, and this madness has to end.

Well quite. Who said this global warming business was politically driven? All they’re demanding is control of reproduction and the economy.

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[agitator]

Nobody yelled, "You first!" ?

 

[tangent4ronpaul]

Coming to a town near you soon!

 

[pmbug]

I am not a number. I am a free man.

 

[fisharmor]

Whatever we can?
If we destroy the environment, the population will go down by necessity.
Duh.

 

[pmbug]

Release the hounds plague!

 

[Pericles]

What he really meant to say is the number of people he thinks are not particularly useful need to be eliminated, on the model of Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Lenin, Pol Pot, etc.

 

[Freedom 4 all]

What he really meant to say is the number of people he thinks are not particularly useful need to be eliminated, on the model of Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Lenin, Pol Pot, etc.

He's not particularly fucking useful. Why doesn't he start with himself?

 

[klamath]

What he really meant to say is the number of people he thinks are not particularly useful need to be eliminated, on the model of Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Lenin, Pol Pot, etc.

I consider myself an environmentalist and tried to work with environmental groups to solve problems. No environment problem could be solved unless population control could be gained and however this was achieved, the end justified the means.

 

[CountryboyRonPaul]

But they won't let Dr. Kevorkian euthanize terminal patients who consentually request euthanasia.

 

[Chieppa1]

I consider myself an environmentalist and tried to work with environmental groups to solve problems. No environment problem could be solved unless population control could be gained and however this was achieved, the end justified the means.

Maybe allowing a free market system within industry would produce more environmentally safe (and affordable) products. I think most people wouldn't mind being "green", if it wasn't forced on them in more ways then one. Oh, and if they could purchase these products at a real market rate. But solar will never be where gas/oil are until Mobil and company stop making $$$ off gas/oil.

 

[Noob]

They should nominate themselves to be the example by leading the parade to the nearest available crematorium. If they are into conservation of fossil fuels, it shouldn't be hard to find one of their fellow-travelers willing to smack them in the head with a shovel and bury them. End of problem.

 

[VBRonPaulFan]

Population control is built into nature de facto. War, disease, famine. One of these three will constantly keep us in check. Any idiot who wants to force his arbitrary rules on everyone else to try to build some silly utopia for himself is going to die an angry and unaccomplished man.

 

[Sola_Fide]

Forced abortion, forced sterilization, euthanasia, are all the logical outworkings of environmentalism.

Humans are a parasite on this earth. The faster we are controlled, sterilized, aborted, and murdered, the better for the earth.

If you'll remember, the Darwinist environmental nut who held up the Discovery building cited this same idea: Malthusian eugenics.

 

[Noob]

Forced abortion, forced sterilization, euthanasia, are all the logical outworkings of environmentalism.

Humans are a parasite on this earth. The faster we are controlled, sterilized, aborted, and murdered, the better for the earth.

If you'll remember, the Darwinist environmental nut who held up the Discovery building cited this same idea: Malthusian eugenics.

The only ones stopping those who believe in over population from putting themselfs out of their own misery of living among billions of people are themselves. They just need to understand that, and maybe get together and have one big party ending with their own suicide pact.

 

[awake]

Save the earth; kill the humans. Great idea Hannibal.

 

[Rothbardian Girl]

I have to be completely honest here. Maybe this is just my 17-year-old, young, impressionable self speaking, but I sympathize with most environmentalists. I think there are definite problems that need to be addressed regarding environmental issues, and I do believe the issues with climate change may have some merit. As for overpopulation, I am honestly clueless as to what can or "should" be done, but I am fairly convinced that there are and will be real issues with population in the near future; for example, a teacher of mine has mentioned problems with the water supply in certain areas of the Middle East. Now, I don't know how reliable of a source he is, but I think it would be a real concern eventually.

However, I differ with most typical environmentalists (with whom I have spoken, anyway) who think the only way to fix these problems is by imposing all sorts of useless regulations and strengthening the power of the EPA and getting government more involved. From what I can tell, the EPA often looks the other way on certain issues, and many sites that were supposed to be cleaned up are not being cleaned up effectively, etc. Plus, I think more government-related operations ultimately do more damage to the environment, like nuclear testing, spraying chemicals, etc. Not to mention the problem of corporations being hand-in-hand with government and actually doing grave amounts of damage to the environment. How can the EPA actually be effective at punishing these rogue corporate fiends who cover up pollution and possibly contribute to climate change when these same people actually have an influence on the policies that the EPA sets out? It just doesn't make any sense to me.

That's why I would want to see more of an emphasis on small, green businesses that can educate consumers as to the real dangers of mistreating the environment, rather than more regulations that don't actually fix much. Again, I understand the concerns of most environmentalists, and I think a lot of them make excellent points to consider. I personally want to see a clean and healthy earth so that future generations can marvel at precious wildlife and breathtaking features, whether they are rainforests or priceless old buildings, or groups of polar bears, or what have you. I think too many people tend to bury their heads in the sand when it comes to these issues.

Most of what I have said probably is common sense to people here... I think...

 

[Sola_Fide]

Private property is the only way to ensure a "green" earth.

Environmentalists do not care about the environment, they care about control. Let's remain consistent libertarians...don't let the Statists and the scientific elite shape the debate with fear.

 

[MelissaCato]

nobody yelled, "you first!" ?

lol

 

[awake]

AuquaBuddha2010 has the thread winner.... Property rights, prices and markets are the right way to go, not central planning. Conservation can only exist when it is the property of someone managing it. We are born property managers, lets not overlook this.