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Longish article in the Detroit Free Press...I just posted the relevant paragraphs.
And there is a significant cost that they left out of the EV data: battery pack replacement.
EVs use lithium ion battery packs. Those go bad in about 6 years, and will no longer hold or maintain a proper charge and voltage.
The lifespan is much shorter if you are working the pack hard, i.e lots of fast charge cycles, draining to zero and cold and hot weather use, all significantly reduce battery service life.
To replace one of the four packs in a Tesla Model S, costs $3,000 to $5,000.
Nobody really knows how much all the packs in the fancy Porsche in this article will cost. There are 33 of them, and rough estimates if you had to replace them all, run around $45,000 to $60,000. That's assuming you could even reach them, since some are buried so far into the body and frame of the vehicle that it would require a complete disassembly to gain access to them.
Even the cheapest street legal EV in the US, the Nissan Leaf, has a battery pack replacement cost of roughly $8,000, although I have seen Chinese re-mans for around $3000.
EVs are the COVID vaccines of cars: a government mandated, unsafe and ineffective, solution to a problem that doesn't really exist.
Study compares electric vehicle charge costs vs. gas — and results were surprising
https://www.freep.com/story/money/cars/2021/10/21/electric-vehicle-charging-cost-vs-gas/6110815001/
21 Oct 2021
[This] is the first of a series of reports Anderson Economic Group will release.
It started the project — an independent report — more than six months ago.
"Part of the strength of the analysis is we’re showing the real-world costs that EV drivers face," Anderson said. "You typically have to go to a commercial charger and commercial charger rates are two, three or four times that of residential charger rates."
Then, there is the time to drive around to find a commercial charger, time that Anderson dubs "deadhead miles." Even charging at home on a Level 1 or Level 2 charger is time consuming and expensive.
The study found that the average cost of a Level 1 charger is $600. To install a Level 2 costs $1,600 because it requires hiring an electrician. An L1 charger uses a 120-volt supply of electricity and can take 20 or more hours to charge, whereas an L2 chargers uses 240 volts and can charge in a few hours.
Real cost to charge up
Anderson's report considers four costs beyond the cost of residential electricity when calculating how much it costs to drive an EV:
Cost of the residential charger
Cost of commercial electricity
An annual EV tax, which in Michigan ranges from $135 to $235, depending on the vehicle model. This is to make up for not paying a gas tax
Deadhead miles to get to a fast charger
Given all of that, the conclusion is EVs cost more to "fuel" than gasoline cars that get reasonable gas mileage, Anderson said. It all depends on how the car is used and how much commercial charging is involved.
A mid-priced internal combustion car that gets 33 miles per gallon would cost $8.58 in overall costs to drive 100 miles at $2.81 a gallon, the study found. But a mid-priced EV, such as Chevrolet Bolt, Nissan Leaf or a Tesla Model 3, would cost $12.95 to drive 100 miles in terms of costs that include recharging the vehicle using mostly a commercial charger.
On a yearly basis, assuming the mid-priced cars traveled 12,000 miles, it would cost $1,030 to drive an internal combustion car and $1,554 to drive an EV.
For luxury cars that get 26 miles per gallon and using premium gas at $3.25 a gallon, the cost to drive an internal combustion car 100 miles is $12.60. The cost to drive a luxury EV, such as a Taycan, Tesla Model S or X or Jaguar I-Pace, is $15.52 to travel 100 miles. That is using mostly commercial chargers.
“That’s apples to apples and includes the extra EV taxes, the commercial charging and the home charging and the allowance of driving to a gas station, which, for most Americans, is very short compared to driving to a commercial charger for an EV owner," Anderson said.
And there is a significant cost that they left out of the EV data: battery pack replacement.
EVs use lithium ion battery packs. Those go bad in about 6 years, and will no longer hold or maintain a proper charge and voltage.
The lifespan is much shorter if you are working the pack hard, i.e lots of fast charge cycles, draining to zero and cold and hot weather use, all significantly reduce battery service life.
To replace one of the four packs in a Tesla Model S, costs $3,000 to $5,000.
Nobody really knows how much all the packs in the fancy Porsche in this article will cost. There are 33 of them, and rough estimates if you had to replace them all, run around $45,000 to $60,000. That's assuming you could even reach them, since some are buried so far into the body and frame of the vehicle that it would require a complete disassembly to gain access to them.
Even the cheapest street legal EV in the US, the Nissan Leaf, has a battery pack replacement cost of roughly $8,000, although I have seen Chinese re-mans for around $3000.
EVs are the COVID vaccines of cars: a government mandated, unsafe and ineffective, solution to a problem that doesn't really exist.
Study compares electric vehicle charge costs vs. gas — and results were surprising
https://www.freep.com/story/money/cars/2021/10/21/electric-vehicle-charging-cost-vs-gas/6110815001/
21 Oct 2021
[This] is the first of a series of reports Anderson Economic Group will release.
It started the project — an independent report — more than six months ago.
"Part of the strength of the analysis is we’re showing the real-world costs that EV drivers face," Anderson said. "You typically have to go to a commercial charger and commercial charger rates are two, three or four times that of residential charger rates."
Then, there is the time to drive around to find a commercial charger, time that Anderson dubs "deadhead miles." Even charging at home on a Level 1 or Level 2 charger is time consuming and expensive.
The study found that the average cost of a Level 1 charger is $600. To install a Level 2 costs $1,600 because it requires hiring an electrician. An L1 charger uses a 120-volt supply of electricity and can take 20 or more hours to charge, whereas an L2 chargers uses 240 volts and can charge in a few hours.
Real cost to charge up
Anderson's report considers four costs beyond the cost of residential electricity when calculating how much it costs to drive an EV:
Cost of the residential charger
Cost of commercial electricity
An annual EV tax, which in Michigan ranges from $135 to $235, depending on the vehicle model. This is to make up for not paying a gas tax
Deadhead miles to get to a fast charger
Given all of that, the conclusion is EVs cost more to "fuel" than gasoline cars that get reasonable gas mileage, Anderson said. It all depends on how the car is used and how much commercial charging is involved.
A mid-priced internal combustion car that gets 33 miles per gallon would cost $8.58 in overall costs to drive 100 miles at $2.81 a gallon, the study found. But a mid-priced EV, such as Chevrolet Bolt, Nissan Leaf or a Tesla Model 3, would cost $12.95 to drive 100 miles in terms of costs that include recharging the vehicle using mostly a commercial charger.
On a yearly basis, assuming the mid-priced cars traveled 12,000 miles, it would cost $1,030 to drive an internal combustion car and $1,554 to drive an EV.
For luxury cars that get 26 miles per gallon and using premium gas at $3.25 a gallon, the cost to drive an internal combustion car 100 miles is $12.60. The cost to drive a luxury EV, such as a Taycan, Tesla Model S or X or Jaguar I-Pace, is $15.52 to travel 100 miles. That is using mostly commercial chargers.
“That’s apples to apples and includes the extra EV taxes, the commercial charging and the home charging and the allowance of driving to a gas station, which, for most Americans, is very short compared to driving to a commercial charger for an EV owner," Anderson said.
