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I would have burned the dog to prevent them from lobbing its head off.
NJ - Puppy breaks free from leash, shot dead by cops.
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Probably the best suggestion so far, but when under emotional stress, the best option seldom occurs to folks.
The objective is to impose a cost on the tyrannical actors.
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Anybody know what the ASPCA, PETA, etc are doing about all these dog shootings?
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/speechless
Langlois said that she has since received a ticket for “dog running at large” and must appear in court on March 20.
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Sorry no, I didn't post clearly.
It's two stories, one a letter to editor from the family and one a news report, but both about the same incident.
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I am sickened. I have a pitbull pup in this state, and the hair on the back of my neck stands on end every time I think about taking her for a walk.
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I have owned one Pit,, known dozens over the years. Sweet dogs, Though incredibly strong. When they do fight something they do damage.
That is the same reason some choose them to fight.
Most of this is caused by an irrational fear of dogs,, any dogs.
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I have:
150 lbs. of big, strong, barking, noisy, un-neutered, fiercely protective of the kids, jet black fur.
I get sick to my stomach at the thought of some cop coming up on the property, unannounced.
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I have:
150 lbs. of big, strong, barking, noisy, un-neutered, fiercely protective of the kids, jet black fur.
I get sick to my stomach at the thought of some cop coming up on the property, unannounced.
I was looking at dog breeds last night for a new MMORPG I got contracted to develop and I saw this cute puppy that yours reminded me of
A Tibetan Mastiff. 160 to 180 pounds. I would name him 'Chuckles". Eats cops fer breakfast and uses Tibetan magick for Matrix style bullet dodging.
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I was looking at dog breeds last night for a new MMORPG I got contracted to develop and I saw this cute puppy that yours reminded me of
A Tibetan Mastiff. 160 to 180 pounds. I would name him 'Chuckles". Eats cops fer breakfast and uses Tibetan magick for Matrix style bullet dodging.
Rev9
I have a girl friend for him.
Cassiopeia
Can you not see that she exudes viciousness.
her teeth look just like his when I wrestle with her.
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Nice doggie!!
LoL at Chuckles.
No one is quite sure where the Newfs first came from, but the best guess is the Tibetan Mastiff or some offshoot of the breed.
LoL at Chuckles.
No one is quite sure where the Newfs first came from, but the best guess is the Tibetan Mastiff or some offshoot of the breed.
I was looking at dog breeds last night for a new MMORPG I got contracted to develop and I saw this cute puppy that yours reminded me of
A Tibetan Mastiff. 160 to 180 pounds. I would name him 'Chuckles". Eats cops fer breakfast and uses Tibetan magick for Matrix style bullet dodging.
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A Tibetan Mastiff. 160 to 180 pounds. I would name him 'Chuckles". Eats cops fer breakfast and uses Tibetan magick for Matrix style bullet dodging.
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holy crap. wouldn't have to worry about getting much mail delivered with that beast hanging out in the yard.
I was looking at dog breeds last night for a new MMORPG I got contracted to develop and I saw this cute puppy that yours reminded me of
A Tibetan Mastiff. 160 to 180 pounds. I would name him 'Chuckles". Eats cops fer breakfast and uses Tibetan magick for Matrix style bullet dodging.
Rev9
HES SO CUTE
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We had a 209 lb Saint Bernard growing up.
I could put my whole head in his mouth. I am going to have to look into those.
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From a couple of years ago.
Annnnnnd that would probably be the end of AF.
Asshole, idiot cop can't even spell "lethal" right.
Owner Of Shot Dog Says ‘Senseless’ Police Shooting Killed ‘Wonderful Dog’
by Ralph Nichols
DATE: November 11, 2010
http://www.waterlandblog.com/2010/1...nseless-police-shooting-killed-wonderful-dog/
Rosie the Newfoundland was “a wonderful dog” whose death – from gunshots fired Nov. 7 by a Des Moines Police officer – was “senseless.”
Now Deirdre Wright, who with her husband Charles owned Rosie, wants “to make sure no other family has to experience this kind of thing.”
And interim Des Moines Police Chief John O’Leary has ordered an investigation into the shooting of this family companion and pet. Investigations into police shootings of animals are not automatic.
“The Des Moines Police Department understands the great concern the public has regarding this very sad event,” Master Sgt. Bob Collins said in a news release issued by the agency. Here’s the full text of the report:
DATE: November 11, 2010
The Des Moines Police Department understands the great concern the public has regarding this very sad event. We believe public service requires public trust, and that public trust demands public accountability. Accordingly, we know the owners of Rosie and the general public demand an answer for the actions of our officers.
We are currently gathering as much information as possible to try and determine how the events of the incident unfolded, and whether the shooting was within department policy. At this point it is inappropriate for us to reach any conclusions until our review is completed. We will be waiting for the completion of our investigation and review board before making any further public comment. We have been in contact with Rosie’s owners and we will be sharing our findings with them.
“We believe public service requires public trust, and that public trust demands public accountability. Accordingly, we know the owners of Rosie and the general public demand an answer for the actions of our officers.”
Three officers responded just after 1:30 p.m. Sunday to a report that a large dog was roaming loose at S. 262nd St. and 16th Ave. S.
The official police report (link to PDF file here) says that after they attempted to get Rosie with a catchpole and then tried to Taser her, she ran into a yard at 26852 16th Ave. S. and hid in blackberry bushes.
Rosie, who had a microchip, was not wearing a collar. A photo was e-mailed to Animal Control Officer Jan Magnuson, who advised the officers at the scene that she didn’t recognize the dog.
Because the dog had barked at them, run from them and shown its teeth, they “felt” their “safety, and the safety of the public was in jeopardy because of this dog’s vicious behavior, and determined lethal force was necessary.”
Four shots were fired to kill her.
The department’s investigation will attempt to determine “whether the shooting was within department policy,” Collins said in the news release.
“At this point it is inappropriate for us to reach any conclusions until our review is completed. We will be waiting for the completion of our investigation and review board before making any further public comment.”
Collins told The Waterland Blog this process could take several weeks before the investigation findings are released.
But the Wrights, who live in the Woodmont area, know one thing for certain. “Rosie never showed any aggressive behavior.”
“My dog would bark at strangers in the driveway,” Deirdre Wright told The Waterland Blog on Nov. 11. “But I kind of like to know when someone’s in my front yard.” And that was it.
“At this point, I don’t know what to say,” she continued. “Rosie was a true light in my life, a companion who helped me through a very difficult time in my life.
“I can’t think of a single place where I can go where something doesn’t remind me of her. This was a senseless loss of a wonderful dog.”
Wright added, “Nothing can bring Rosie back, so the best I can do is make sure we learn a lesson from what happened.”
Rosie “had never been outside our back yard without my husband or I beside her. I think she was terrified” when confronted by the officers and cornered in the back yard.
Should a dog rescue expert been called to the scene to help the officers handle Rosie?
Wright thinks “they had one if not several opportunities to call in someone. When she was in the backyard where she was shot, she was confined. The owner would have been comfortable leaving here there” in the meantime.
A person contacted by the Waterland Blog who works in dog rescue suggested, on background, that with increasingly tight budgets, layoffs and fewer officers on patrol, police departments are less inclined to spend extra time catching dogs running loose.
Although the officers thought Rosie, who they had cornered, seemed vicious, the American Kennel Club (www.akc.org) states, “Sweetness of temperament is the hallmark of the Newfoundland; this is the most important single characteristic of the breed.”
Wright said these dogs are described as “gentle giants.”
Although the police report estimated Rosie’s weight at 200 pounds, her actual weight was 120 pounds, according to Wright. The AKC says female Newfoundlands usually weigh between 100 and 120 pounds.
Annnnnnd that would probably be the end of AF.
Asshole, idiot cop can't even spell "lethal" right.
Owner Of Shot Dog Says ‘Senseless’ Police Shooting Killed ‘Wonderful Dog’
by Ralph Nichols
DATE: November 11, 2010
http://www.waterlandblog.com/2010/1...nseless-police-shooting-killed-wonderful-dog/
Rosie the Newfoundland was “a wonderful dog” whose death – from gunshots fired Nov. 7 by a Des Moines Police officer – was “senseless.”
Now Deirdre Wright, who with her husband Charles owned Rosie, wants “to make sure no other family has to experience this kind of thing.”
And interim Des Moines Police Chief John O’Leary has ordered an investigation into the shooting of this family companion and pet. Investigations into police shootings of animals are not automatic.
“The Des Moines Police Department understands the great concern the public has regarding this very sad event,” Master Sgt. Bob Collins said in a news release issued by the agency. Here’s the full text of the report:
DATE: November 11, 2010
The Des Moines Police Department understands the great concern the public has regarding this very sad event. We believe public service requires public trust, and that public trust demands public accountability. Accordingly, we know the owners of Rosie and the general public demand an answer for the actions of our officers.
We are currently gathering as much information as possible to try and determine how the events of the incident unfolded, and whether the shooting was within department policy. At this point it is inappropriate for us to reach any conclusions until our review is completed. We will be waiting for the completion of our investigation and review board before making any further public comment. We have been in contact with Rosie’s owners and we will be sharing our findings with them.
“We believe public service requires public trust, and that public trust demands public accountability. Accordingly, we know the owners of Rosie and the general public demand an answer for the actions of our officers.”
Three officers responded just after 1:30 p.m. Sunday to a report that a large dog was roaming loose at S. 262nd St. and 16th Ave. S.
The official police report (link to PDF file here) says that after they attempted to get Rosie with a catchpole and then tried to Taser her, she ran into a yard at 26852 16th Ave. S. and hid in blackberry bushes.
Rosie, who had a microchip, was not wearing a collar. A photo was e-mailed to Animal Control Officer Jan Magnuson, who advised the officers at the scene that she didn’t recognize the dog.
Because the dog had barked at them, run from them and shown its teeth, they “felt” their “safety, and the safety of the public was in jeopardy because of this dog’s vicious behavior, and determined lethal force was necessary.”
Four shots were fired to kill her.
The department’s investigation will attempt to determine “whether the shooting was within department policy,” Collins said in the news release.
“At this point it is inappropriate for us to reach any conclusions until our review is completed. We will be waiting for the completion of our investigation and review board before making any further public comment.”
Collins told The Waterland Blog this process could take several weeks before the investigation findings are released.
But the Wrights, who live in the Woodmont area, know one thing for certain. “Rosie never showed any aggressive behavior.”
“My dog would bark at strangers in the driveway,” Deirdre Wright told The Waterland Blog on Nov. 11. “But I kind of like to know when someone’s in my front yard.” And that was it.
“At this point, I don’t know what to say,” she continued. “Rosie was a true light in my life, a companion who helped me through a very difficult time in my life.
“I can’t think of a single place where I can go where something doesn’t remind me of her. This was a senseless loss of a wonderful dog.”
Wright added, “Nothing can bring Rosie back, so the best I can do is make sure we learn a lesson from what happened.”
Rosie “had never been outside our back yard without my husband or I beside her. I think she was terrified” when confronted by the officers and cornered in the back yard.
Should a dog rescue expert been called to the scene to help the officers handle Rosie?
Wright thinks “they had one if not several opportunities to call in someone. When she was in the backyard where she was shot, she was confined. The owner would have been comfortable leaving here there” in the meantime.
A person contacted by the Waterland Blog who works in dog rescue suggested, on background, that with increasingly tight budgets, layoffs and fewer officers on patrol, police departments are less inclined to spend extra time catching dogs running loose.
Although the officers thought Rosie, who they had cornered, seemed vicious, the American Kennel Club (www.akc.org) states, “Sweetness of temperament is the hallmark of the Newfoundland; this is the most important single characteristic of the breed.”
Wright said these dogs are described as “gentle giants.”
Although the police report estimated Rosie’s weight at 200 pounds, her actual weight was 120 pounds, according to Wright. The AKC says female Newfoundlands usually weigh between 100 and 120 pounds.
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With regard to the above post:
http://www.waterlandblog.com/2010/1...police-killing-of-rosie-the-newfoundland-dog/
http://www.waterlandblog.com/2010/1...police-killing-of-rosie-the-newfoundland-dog/
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Yes they are and mine stays outside all winter long too.
I have a bunch of a pics posted of Jefferson on the forums.
The Bernese is said to be a forerunner of the Newf also.
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yeah, the bernese aren't droolers. 
I don't think I could handle a big time drooler.
I don't think I could handle a big time drooler.
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yeah, the bernese aren't droolers.
"I've been slimed"
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...-in-your-sig&highlight=Jefferson+Newfoundland
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