NH Union Leader drops ad by llepard

llepard said:
Yes, but.

If I sue them, like i intend to, I can depose all of their employees to find out how this advertisement conveniently got left out.

Now, all those employees may lie under oath, but I am willing to take those odds.

Everyone calm down, we will get to the bottom of this.

Firm peaceful solutions.

Imagine how much trouble they will have if we can find an insider who will tell us there was an effort to keep the ad out.

LWL
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Hi Lawrence

Greetings from the MAD Englishman

You've done a fantastic job for the campaign geezer!

Total 110% respect
 
llepard said:
Yes, but.

If I sue them, like i intend to, I can depose all of their employees to find out how this advertisement conveniently got left out.

Now, all those employees may lie under oath, but I am willing to take those odds.

Everyone calm down, we will get to the bottom of this.

Firm peaceful solutions.

Imagine how much trouble they will have if we can find an insider who will tell us there was an effort to keep the ad out.

LWL
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Sweet irony if this gets all of your money back +

spent on the ads including the USA Today one.
 
Mattsa said:
Thankyou.

I don't think the average american has any idea what it's like to live in the UK these days.

Petrol is about $11 a gallon

Over 50% of our income is robbed by the state

A small 2 bedroom flat where I live will cost you $400,000

There are armies of government snoopers who will spy on your property and your car

We are the most surveillanced people in the world apart from China.

The government keep electronic records of everything.....and lose them in the post once in a while so that criminal gangs have access to peoples' social security information, dates of birth etc etc

About half the working people in the UK are public service workers

The polarization of wealth has never been greater

We have had a bank failure, Northern Rock. The director is still in his job. He should be in jail.

Our politicians are totally corrupt and the media is owned.

The education system is in ruins and designed specifically to FAIL to EDUCATE people. IT IS DELIBERATE AND ENGINEERED TO TURN OUT ROBOTS who will spend their lives watching 200 channels of crap on TV, drink themselves into oblivion every night and keep on spending money on their credit cards like good obedient slaves. The British people are living in a cage and 99% of them don't even realize it.

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE don't allow things in the USA to get as bad as they are here.
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Listen to Mattsa. Never quit questioning. People over here question nothing. And if you do question there is more than one person ready to turn you in to the politicaly correct police. There is no alternative media, no online radio talk shows dealing with U.K. specific topics. There are no outlets for free speech. Some days I ponder that I may actually have to fight my way out of here, or die trying. I just hope I don't have to stand alone. Please don't give up your freedom without a fight.
 
"Hello, Concord Monitor, guess what the Union-Leader did to us....."
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This is Genius!

Tell the Union Leader's competition! This move by them is all about McCain and their endorsement of him. You could see it in the YouTube debate, McCain's scared to death of Ron Paul!
 
It doesn't have to be the Concord Monitor, just a major paper to bring attention to it.

Any of the papers that carried the ad would be a good place to start.
 
martin wesley said:
Listen to Mattsa. Never quit questioning. People over here question nothing. And if you do question there is more than one person ready to turn you in to the politicaly correct police. There is no alternative media, no online radio talk shows dealing with U.K. specific topics. There are no outlets for free speech. Some days I ponder that I may actually have to fight my way out of here, or die trying. I just hope I don't have to stand alone. Please don't give up your freedom without a fight.
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You've raised a very interesting point here and that is the absense of local radio.

Radio bandwidth has always been very tightly regulated in the UK. It's much harder to set up a little local radio station. All stations are licenced and if you broadcast anything wide of the mark, they'll just cut you off. Game over there!

The internet has been staring the British people in the face for a decade but nobody has utilised it to get across an alternative political message successfully. So for example, we have UKIP, the United Kingdon Independance Party, who are trying desperately hard to reverse our entry into the United Socialist State of Europe. They are totally marginalized by the media, an occassional radio interview or a brief appearance on TV but not nearly enough exposure to get their message across. They could have used the internet much better, rather like the Ron Paul movement has but they have failed really. Mind you, it's pretty tough when you are up against a system designed to keep people dumb, drunk, entertained by shite on TV ad spending spending spending.

I had dinner with some friends last night. I haven't seen them for a year so I was keen to know how their son had been getting on at school.

He's failed all his exams

Not one pass

I have watched this kid grow up for 10 years. He is a bright kid, not stupid at all, he had great potential

The education system here is DESIGNED to make these kids fail.

That is the truth.........

Terrible isn't it? A tragedy, a criminal tragedy and such a waste.

Don't let America end up like the UK

Another thing.............

The British are incredibly arrogant people. They really still think we are top dog, culturally superior and just better than anyone else. A lot of people in the UK think all Americans are ignorant, McDonald munching, gun wielding psychopaths.

I've visited America a few times now, I lived around Philly for 3 months once and I am always pleasantly surprised how cultured, well educated and polite alot of people are over there.

Am am quite certain, there are enough of these people left in America to turn this situation around.

I have absolute confidence in the American people to save their country

Go for it people!
 
Yea...it would appear that McCain is the establishment's favorite now, and their recent shannanigans with Mushareff seems to be timed to help his candidacy.

Both the MUL and the CM have endorsed this nut case.

If he is president on January 19th, 2009, WWIII starts on 1/20/09!
 
I think we need to get some answers before going off too far on a tangent.

It would be a shame if the ad doesn't run, but there are another 48 states to look at.
 
llepard said:
Yes, but.

If I sue them, like i intend to, I can depose all of their employees to find out how this advertisement conveniently got left out.

Now, all those employees may lie under oath, but I am willing to take those odds.

Everyone calm down, we will get to the bottom of this.

Firm peaceful solutions.

Imagine how much trouble they will have if we can find an insider who will tell us there was an effort to keep the ad out.

LWL
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Mr. Lepard,
I called the paper and spoke to the night news editor. She was very kind and upset about this and wants to make it right. I just PM'd you with a direct contact number.

I am a retired lawyer but this is not my area of law so I cannot be of any use to you. I can tell you though, that lawyers rarely make things better. I suggest you get as much as you can from them right now and then sue later if you still can. Getting the ad in front of the most eyes I would think is more important than going after them.

I also suspect that the contract says, somewhere, we will try to run this on this day, but we cannot guarantee anything and if we mess up we are not liable for anything.

Although, I don't know anything about this area of law and have no idea if that is enough to get them out trouble or not.

Good luck with the name I gave you. Call quickly. Although, she did say she would be there all night, and she really wants to make it right. I don't know if she can, but she seemed to be "above" the ad desk person and could possibly have some influence here.
 
It appears that the newspaper and the NH GOP have embraced Fascism. "You will know them by their fruits". Earlier today I sent the following email to Fergus Cullen and a variation to several newspapers, including the New Hampshire newspaper:

Dear Fergus Cullen,

I copied the following from the Baltimore Sun:

"An official at the New Hampshire GOP, which is co-sponsoring the event with Fox, said that Paul might still be included, but the planning for the debate was still coming together and it was ultimately Fox's call".

"The Associated Press reported last week that the candidates participating in the 90-minute forum at St. Anselm College in Goffstown, N.H., will be Mayor Rudy Giuliani, Gov. Mike Huckabee, Sen. John McCain, Gov. Mitt Romney and Sen. Fred Thompson."

This is not Fox's call, this is your call. IMO, without the support of the NH GOP it will not go on. I hope that the debate will be canceled if Ron Paul is not included.

Sir, to deny Ron Paul the opportunity to attend the Fox network presidential debates on the 6th of January in NH is an attack on democracy. What are the neocons afraid of?

As you know, the MSM has blacklisted Ron Paul for the most part. He gets virtually no free face time on television and very little mention in the print media. When he does get free mention in the national media, it is usually an attempt to discredit and marginalize him.

Ron Paul recently made a statement that "Fascism will come wrapped in a flag carrying a cross". He is right on! Does the following look familiar?

Fascism: Various scholars attribute different characteristics to fascism, but the following elements are usually seen as its integral parts: nationalism, statism, militarism, totalitarianism, anti-communism, corporatism, populism, collectivism, and opposition to political and economic liberalism. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism.

Fraudulent Elections: Sometimes elections in fascist nations are a complete sham. Other times elections are manipulated by smear campaigns against or even assassination of opposition candidates, use of legislation to control voting numbers or political district boundaries, and manipulation of the media. Fascist nations also typically use their judiciaries to manipulate or control elections.

Regards

Charles F. Wilson
 
ecliptic said:
If you are advocating violence then you are not in any way helping Ron Paul get elected.

If I misunderstood then I'm sorry...
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I agree, violence is not an option, Civil disobedience is. If and when the time comes we will need to get together and strategize. One of the first things would be to put together a legal team with funds to sustain it. We will need to follow the examples set by Gandhi.
 
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The Official Campaign Can't Get Involved

SteveMartin said:
Lawrence,

Feel free to call RP or Rand. RP seemed genuinely concerned about this, and I think he will urge the campaign for an appropriate response if the MLU has none.

Good luck and God bless!
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This is a grassroots effort. The official campaign cannot get involved.
 
Okay guys, I wrote a letter to the paper and here's the response I got back:

We publish candidates' ads without regard to our editorial page opinions.
To do anything else would be unethical behavior and bad business. Both should be avoided!
I will look into this first thing tomorrow morning.

Charles Perkins, UnionLeader.com
 
Guys lets let llepard handle this before things spin out of control.

EDIT: Or at least I think that'd be the best course of action until we know whats actually occured.
 
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