NH Union Leader drops ad by llepard

[yongrel]

I'm willing to give the paper the benefit of the doubt. Can we proceed calmly?

 

[me3]

Curious, wouldn't next Sunday be a great opportunity?

 

[mojohnk2000]

Authority

Please don't advocate violence .... ever.

Let's say you and a bunch of other angry gun-toting revolutionaries DO go out and attack some news outlet ( hypothetical suggestion: CNN headquarters in Atlanta ) and thanks to brilliant planning and execution you manage to wipe out every scumbag "personality" and all the executives and upper management. GREAT!!!

What would happen next?

Total police-state crack-down.

Martial law.

Suspension of any remaining Constitutional rights.

"Game" over. You lose. Everyone loses.


You cannot resort to violence. This HAS to be a peaceful revolution or it WILL fail.

Violence is the easy way out - non-violence requires brilliant strategy, "thinking outside the box", persistence, dedication, faith, will, heart....

We have all those things and we CAN win!

"All authority is derived by violence" - Robert A. Hienlein

It took him 30 novels to create that one sentence. But it is true.

Not to allow me to talk about such things on an academic level violates my right to free speech.

John K

 

[Mark]

Curious, wouldn't next Sunday be a great opportunity?

If they run it then too for free. Today was ideal with the holidays and all.

Families are gathered together ect - Much discussion of political topics - plenty of time to learn more about Ron

before the primary. Next Sunday's cutting it a bit tight with no family holiday discussions.

Not even as close to being ideal as today. Multiple immediate runs on consecutive days may help, (for free),

it may even generate more press and talk than a Sunday alone ad would have.

I think we need to press for the apology on top and free multiple runs, it will generate interest and discussion.

 

[susano]

Thankyou.

I don't think the average american has any idea what it's like to live in the UK these days.

Petrol is about $11 a gallon

Over 50% of our income is robbed by the state

A small 2 bedroom flat where I live will cost you $400,000

There are armies of government snoopers who will spy on your property and your car

We are the most surveillanced people in the world apart from China.

The government keep electronic records of everything.....and lose them in the post once in a while so that criminal gangs have access to peoples' social security information, dates of birth etc etc

About half the working people in the UK are public service workers

The polarization of wealth has never been greater

We have had a bank failure, Northern Rock. The director is still in his job. He should be in jail.

Our politicians are totally corrupt and the media is owned.

The education system is in ruins and designed specifically to FAIL to EDUCATE people. IT IS DELIBERATE AND ENGINEERED TO TURN OUT ROBOTS who will spend their lives watching 200 channels of crap on TV, drink themselves into oblivion every night and keep on spending money on their credit cards like good obedient slaves. The British people are living in a cage and 99% of them don't even realize it.

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE don't allow things in the USA to get as bad as they are here.

THANK YOU. I'm really pissed off about the people here who said you advocted violence. I know what you meant. Our country was born out of a revolution, for GODsake. What the hell is the matter with people around here? Do I need to post quotes from Alexander Solzhenitzen about how they lamented in the gulags NOT ACTING while they had the freedom to do so?

NOBODY here has advocted violence. The guy just mentioned keeping your guns available. Believe me, if total martial law comes, you'll be appreciative of what he said.

Who knows if this country will break out in a full scale rebellion? ANYTHING is possible. The Soviet Union dissolved overnight. We should be so lucky. What these NWO bastards usually like to do is more exemplified by Iraq or the former Yugoslavia.

It is not advocating violence to say stay alert, America. We also have a right to bear arms in this country. There is NOTHING wrong with talking about it. Some of you have been browbeaten by the stooges who are taking away our rights as we speak. They've got you afraid to even mention the fucking Bill of Rights!

Disgusting.

 

[Mark]

"All authority is derived by violence" - Robert A. Hienlein

It took him 30 novels to create that one sentence. But it is true.

Not to allow me to talk about such things on an academic level violates my right to free speech.

John K

I've said it before, the powers that be need to realize that this is no longer the 1960's.

We're on to them now. We know their tricks. And we don't appreciate it. And we will fight back.

And, If you don't believe in a God, just ignore this, but for those who do,

I assure you, LBJ and his cronies didn't waltz into Heaven upon their death.

There is a price to pay for such evil deeds done in this life and in this world.

 

[susano]

You've raised a very interesting point here and that is the absense of local radio.

Radio bandwidth has always been very tightly regulated in the UK. It's much harder to set up a little local radio station. All stations are licenced and if you broadcast anything wide of the mark, they'll just cut you off. Game over there!

The internet has been staring the British people in the face for a decade but nobody has utilised it to get across an alternative political message successfully. So for example, we have UKIP, the United Kingdon Independance Party, who are trying desperately hard to reverse our entry into the United Socialist State of Europe. They are totally marginalized by the media, an occassional radio interview or a brief appearance on TV but not nearly enough exposure to get their message across. They could have used the internet much better, rather like the Ron Paul movement has but they have failed really. Mind you, it's pretty tough when you are up against a system designed to keep people dumb, drunk, entertained by shite on TV ad spending spending spending.

I had dinner with some friends last night. I haven't seen them for a year so I was keen to know how their son had been getting on at school.

He's failed all his exams

Not one pass

I have watched this kid grow up for 10 years. He is a bright kid, not stupid at all, he had great potential

The education system here is DESIGNED to make these kids fail.

That is the truth.........

Terrible isn't it? A tragedy, a criminal tragedy and such a waste.

Don't let America end up like the UK

Another thing.............

The British are incredibly arrogant people. They really still think we are top dog, culturally superior and just better than anyone else. A lot of people in the UK think all Americans are ignorant, McDonald munching, gun wielding psychopaths.

I've visited America a few times now, I lived around Philly for 3 months once and I am always pleasantly surprised how cultured, well educated and polite alot of people are over there.

Am am quite certain, there are enough of these people left in America to turn this situation around.

I have absolute confidence in the American people to save their country

Go for it people!

I can verify what you've said because I used to post on a London chat site.

They were mostly 30 somethings, well "schooled" (read: Tavistock mind control), totally godless Darwinists, despise the US, called us "septics", are multiculturalist (as opposed US "melting pot"), Big Brother loving, mindless dupes.

 

[DirtMcGirt]

good point about articles on consecutive days... this could work in our favor... imagine a person saying" I saw a very interesting article in the paper yesterday" and then saying "oh there it is right there"

RP08

 

[susano]

The paper is claiming it is an honest mistake. No surprise there.

They will run it tomorrow on Page A2. Tommorrow is not Sunday.

I am going to sleep on the matter.

But, my initial reaction is that one day is not going to satisfy me. I think I am going to continue with my original plan. Tomorrow I will be getting a lawyer involved.

We do not know if it was intentional or not, although my gut tells me it was.

I would really like to know what the deal is so I think I will keep pushing.

Good night. LWL

I hope you demand it be on A3 this coming Sunday, as well as tomorrow.

 

[Hook]

Give 'em hell, llepard!
(I'd hate to have someone like him as my enemy)

 

[mrkurtz]

I just wrote to the Union Leader with this message... Critique/use as you like:

I have been informed by my fellow Ron Paul supporters that your newspaper has blatently censored a full page ad sponsored by a private individual. This ad was supposed to run in this Sunday's edition; and by performing this act of censorship, you have eliminated the last holiday Sunday exposure for this ad. A Monday run of the ad has far less exposure than a Sunday one, and a following Sunday ad will not have the New Year's Day party chatter to benefit it.

I and my fellow supporters are prepared to go to every single one of your advertisers and sponsors to inform them of organized boycotting of their businesses should they continue to fund your newspaper. You know the impact this act of censorship has on the campaign, and you also know what a sponsor-wide boycott will also do to your bottom line.

I would highly suggest to you and your editors to negotiate a fair deal with Mr. Llepard to ensure this act of censorship is properly compensated.

 

[Arklatex]

mrkurtz, take out threat to the bottom line part. They know that, no need to state the obvious and put a threat in writing. Let them connect the dots.

 

[me3]

Oh lord, this is a private dispute between llepard and the Union Leader. Please don't involve yourself directly or make threats on his or the grassroots behalf. That is totally counterproductive.

WTF is up with new people on this forum and running around making threats on behalf of the grassroots? That's totally irresponsible.

 

[mrkurtz]

Oh lord, this is a private dispute between llepard and the Union Leader. Please don't involve yourself directly or make threats on his or the grassroots behalf. That is totally counterproductive.

WTF is up with new people on this forum and running around making threats on behalf of the grassroots? That's totally irresponsible.

Thanks for the feedback, I rescinded the previous email and resent it without the middle paragraph.

And, btw, I didn't make a threat on behalf of the grassroots... I made it in behalf of folks I've already talked to about potential action. I find that to be completely responsible.

Don't mistaken grassroots as centralized organization, me3.

 

[tsetsefly]

Oh lord, this is a private dispute between llepard and the Union Leader. Please don't involve yourself directly or make threats on his or the grassroots behalf. That is totally counterproductive.

WTF is up with new people on this forum and running around making threats on behalf of the grassroots? That's totally irresponsible.

agree, wtf people...

 

[yongrel]

Oh lord, this is a private dispute between llepard and the Union Leader. Please don't involve yourself directly or make threats on his or the grassroots behalf. That is totally counterproductive.

WTF is up with new people on this forum and running around making threats on behalf of the grassroots? That's totally irresponsible.

The new blood is a little overenthusiastic.

 

[me3]

Don't mistaken grassroots as centralized organization, me3.

llepard is trying to handle a difficult situation. Jumping in as a 3rd party with accusations (you have no proof of), and making threats against advertisers is irresponsible, period.

Avoid entangling alliances and the affairs of other supporters.

Btw, I have been online since 1995 and run several dozen websites. I'm curious how you rescinded an email. There are several to past girlfriends I would like to get back.

 

[colecrowe]

This is Genius!

Tell the Union Leader's competition! This move by them is all about McCain and their endorsement of him. You could see it in the YouTube debate, McCain's scared to death of Ron Paul!

QFT

 

[Thanehand]

Btw, I have been online since 1995 and run several dozen websites. I'm curious how you rescinded an email. There are several to past girlfriends I would like to get back.

LMAO! Glad I wasn't the only one wondering that.

 

[Ronin]

Btw, I have been online since 1995 and run several dozen websites. I'm curious how you rescinded an email. There are several to past girlfriends I would like to get back.

I know Exchange/Outlook can do it, but only emails sent to addresses that the exchange server manages. I'm with you though. Way too many 3am emails on my record