NH Results Thread

[ohgodno]

The media push the narratives.

The campaign's job is to supply the good ones and combat the ones that reflect poorly on the candidate.

They've been doing a poor job combating and redirecting the bad narratives to make them positive. The biggest issue is the foreign policy questions; the quicker they can find the correct way to frame the non-interventionist philosophy to make it palpable to traditional conservatives the better as this is the demographic Dr. Paul most needs. The neocons are lost and always will be - but appealing to conservatives is the way to beat them.

The foreign policy arguments - even though they're based 100% in fact - are weak for one reason and one reason only: they make it seem likeDr. Paul is totally anti-war and will let anyone attack the country. We all know this to be untrue, but this is the narrative that is constantly drilled into people.

Dr. Paul needs to stress further that he WILL protect the country, appear strong while stressing agressive wars are not the way to defend the country. The saying goes: offense wins games but defense wins championships.

 

[SilentBull]

Why is everybody talking about a 3rd place finish? We're running 2nd right now aren't we?

Sure, there's something to be said for not getting our hopes up too high, but we also shouldn't start a pity party lest we know there'll be just cause for one.

Because they are doing the same thing they did in Iowa.

 

[Travlyr]

Seriously, the media is irrelevant? How do you explain the media created Santorum surge in Iowa? The media is many things, but irrlevent is certainly not one of them.

Yes, irrelevant. The only people paying attention to them are still asleep. Seriously, the war economy that the media promotes is a horrible way to live life. The counterfeit fiat money scheme that they promote impoverishes people and enriches others. It is a criminal organization. The media is a front for all of that.

Already, literate people have quit paying attention to media shills and their lies. Before long everybody is going to see the liars for who they are. It is the 21st century. We all have the truth machine at out fingertips.

People are waking up to the truth. The truth is well stated by Former Federal Reserve Chairman Alan Greenspan,

"In the absence of the gold standard, there is no way to protect savings from confiscation through inflation. There is no safe store of value. If there were, the government would have to make its holding illegal, as was done in the case of gold. The financial policy of the welfare state requires that there be no way for the owners of wealth to protect themselves. This is the shabby secret of the welfare statists' tirades against gold. Deficit spending is simply a scheme for the 'hidden' confiscation of wealth. Gold stands in the way of this insidious process. It stands as a protector of property rights." - Alan Greenspan, Gold and Economic Freedom

The only question is: When will you wake up? Before they take your life savings or after?

 

[radiofriendly]

Of course I'll be right here too - I'm running a Live Blog over at my website,

http://iroots.org/2012/01/09/live-blog-of-new-hampshire-primary-day/

 

[rightcoast]

Yes, irrelevant. The only people paying attention to them are still asleep ... The only question is: When will you wake up? Before they take your life savings or after?

So ... only 9.5 out of 10 people pay any attention to a form of mainstream media. :\

Read those words again. "Mainstream media."

People don't call it that because it is "irrelevant".

I know, I know ... wake up sheeple!!!tildeone

 

[Kevin Smyth]

So ... only 9.5 out of 10 people pay any attention to a form of mainstream media. :\

Read those words again. "Mainstream media."

People don't call it that because it is "irrelevant".

I know, I know ... wake up sheeple!!!tildeone

The Fox News fans don't even think Fox is mainstream media, they think that term only applies to liberal networks so when you see a poll that asks people if they trust the mainstream media keep in mind that Fox fans do not consider their network as a part of the mainstream media thus rendering the results of such polls worthless.

 

[Tod]

http://livewire.wmur.com/Event/New_Hampshire_Primary_Election_Results

currently:

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[TD="width: 5%"][/TD]
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[TD="width: 50%"] Huntsman , Jon[/TD]
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[TD="width: 15%, align: right"] 11%[/TD]
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[TD="width: 5%"][/TD]
[TD="width: 50%"] Perry , Rick[/TD]
[TD="width: 15%"] GOP[/TD]
[TD="width: 15%, align: right"] 1[/TD]
[TD="width: 15%, align: right"] 5% [/TD]
[/TR]
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[TD="width: 5%"][/TD]
[TD="width: 50%"] Bachmann , Michele[/TD]
[TD="width: 15%"] GOP[/TD]
[TD="width: 15%, align: right"] 0[/TD]
[TD="width: 15%, align: right"] 0%[/TD]
[/TR]
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[TD="width: 5%"][/TD]
[TD="width: 50%"] Santorum , Rick[/TD]
[TD="width: 15%"] GOP[/TD]
[TD="width: 15%, align: right"] 0[/TD]
[TD="width: 15%, align: right"] 0%[/TD]
[/TR]
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[TD="width: 5%"][/TD]
[TD="width: 50%"] Betzler , Bear[/TD]
[TD="width: 15%"] GOP[/TD]
[TD="width: 15%, align: right"] 0[/TD]
[TD="width: 15%, align: right"] 0%
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sorry for the formatting....

 

[Esoteric]

Why aren't there any entrance polls?

 

[specsaregood]

The Fox News fans don't even think Fox is mainstream media, they think that term only applies to liberal networks

How is foxnews not a liberal network?

 

[Esoteric]

Mitt Romney 7 36.8%
Ron Paul 5 26.3%
Jon Huntsman 4 21.1%
Newt Gingrich 2 10.5%
Rick Perry 1 5.3%

This might indicate how the race will turn out...

Margin of Error +/- 50%

 

[blazeKing]

Why aren't there any entrance polls?

Not happening until the polls close so the media doesn't influence the election (any more than they already do,)

 

[KEEF]

http://livewire.wmur.com/Event/New_Hampshire_Primary_Election_Results

Thanks for the link, I've been searching the web for a while trying to find one.

+1

 

[Kords21]

Apparently sign waving does work, at least in one case

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/signs-times-scenes-hampshire-primary-165307864.html

 

[Maximus]

Apparently sign waving does work, at least in one case

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/signs-times-scenes-hampshire-primary-165307864.html

Of course it works to an extent. There's a reason companies pay millions and millions for billboards and signwavers on corners.

 

[SchleckBros]

Outside the Manchester polling place

 

[Expatriate]

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/signs-times-scenes-hampshire-primary-165307864.html

"He was the only one represented here," Carrier said, referring to the lone Paul supporter holding a sign outside the McDonough School. "I usually make up my mind at the poll."

I'm glad he voted for Ron Paul, but truly I wish people like this didn't vote at all. If you know so little about who and what you're voting for that you have to decide at the poll... well that is incredibly irresponsible. You are deciding the future of this country and every other country that we meddle with and/or bomb. Actual human lives can be destroyed or saved depending on the result.

This is a life and death decision, not some American Idol contest.

 

[tsetsefly]

"He was the only one represented here," Carrier said, referring to the lone Paul supporter holding a sign outside the McDonough School. "I usually make up my mind at the poll."

I'm glad he voted for Ron Paul, but truly I wish people like this didn't vote at all. If you know so little about who and what you're voting for that you have to decide at the poll... well that is incredibly irresponsible. You are deciding the future of this country and every other country that we meddle with and/or bomb. Actual human lives can be destroyed or saved depending on the result.

This is a life and death decision, not some American Idol contest.

my thoughts exactly... I mean really...

 

[JamesButabi]

Outside the Manchester polling place

Awesome!

 

[Sarge]

I read all the comments on the article, and it is about every Ron Paul vote getting out to vote in NH now. No I didn't vote excuses tomorrow or next year.

Remember most early voting took place a while ago, so that might also help Dr. Paul. ie, before all the fake media surges.

 

[mikeforliberty]

I've been sitting here thinking about Romney and Huntsman. I think a Huntsman surge in NH is good for us. His votes will probably come mostly from the Romney votes. In NH here are the ideological splits:

Romney / Huntsman
Gingrich / Santorum / Perry
Ron Paul

This looks pretty good to me considering we have polled in second place for so long and our voters won't split so easily for anyone else. Huntsman may take away enough votes from Romney to put us in 1st.