NH - Portsmouth women being sued for thousands of dollars for planting flowers.

[kahless]

It is amazing how many authoritarian leftists there are. There are actually Obama supporters out there that fully support the wars and the seizures of executive power. They desire a Stalin/Mao/Pol Pot/Castro style purge of all those who would "spoil" their plans.

I actually started to take a close look at the Free State Project and relocating to NH but with the outrageous property taxes and what you describe it looks like there are other parts the country more ripe for such a movement.

 

[Acala]

Not necessarily. What if the majority of the members of the community don't care if she plants flowers there, and it's just one or two power hungry busy-bodies who have gotten themselves into positions of "authority" who have a vendetta against her?

It still is NOT her property. In a condo, you don't own the common areas. You typically don't even own the outside of your walls. At least with a HOA you OWN your yard even though you have agreed not to do certain things with it. The land where she has planted the flowers is owned by someone else. She never owned it.

It is as if I planted flowers on my neighbor's lawn and then pitch a fit because my neighbor wants me to remove them.

 

[dannno]

It is as if I planted flowers on my neighbor's lawn and then pitch a fit because my neighbor wants me to remove them.

No, actually it is as if you planted flowers on your neighbor's lawn after getting permission from them and then they later sued you for thousands of dollars.

 

[donnay]

I actually started to take a close look at the Free State Project and relocating to NH but with the outrageous property taxes and what you describe it looks like there are other parts the country more ripe for such a movement.

NH is great! You have to do your research before you move...some towns are higher in taxes than others. The thing is, when you look at it like that you will know who are like-minded people in that town just by the taxes. You have no state income tax, lower excise and no sales tax on merchandise.

Over all, NH is cheaper than most New England states to live. The first year my family moved from Maine to New Hampshire we saved $5000.00.

 

[AGRP]

She shouldn't have joined the HOA.

 

[Keith and stuff]

I actually started to take a close look at the Free State Project and relocating to NH but with the outrageous property taxes and what you describe it looks like there are other parts the country more ripe for such a movement.

That person isn't in NH and he wasn'ttalking about NH. As for Portsmouth, it is definitely a Democratic city. There is one libertarian Republican on the city council, though. The property taxes are highest in NH in Rockingham County, where Portsmouth is located. It is the most statist county in NH. It has 20 or so miles of coastline, all located in Rockingham County. Portsmouth is on the ocean.

Outside of the 13 cities in NH, the people in the towns decide their property taxes to a great deal by voting on expenses in town meetings. Some rural parts of NH have no property taxes. Some places in NH have very high property taxes, like Hanover (a college town.) If you want to live in NH and pay little property taxes, move somewhere with little or no property taxes. You could also move to a trailer, RV or rent with others. For example, you can buy a duplex for less than $200,000 and rent out half of it. That will be enough to cover your mortgage and property taxes. If you are single or just a couple without kids, you can rent a room from someone else. In all of NH you can rent a room from someone else for $300 to $400. Some people pay even less than that.

Of course, taxes overall are low in NH compared to just about any other state. I don't pay any NH income taxes. I don't pay a general NH sale tax on anything expect when I get a drink at a bar. NH has the lowest alcohol taxes in the US. It has the 2nd lowest gas tax (18 cents per gallon, I think) in the Northeast. It has the lowest tobacco taxes in New England and perhaps near the lowest in the Northeast. Traffic fines are low in NH compared to most states. NH is also called the richest state enough though there is no minimum wage for most workers. NH just uses whatever the feds say, there is no need for a state min. wage.

 

[Lishy]

Why does the law allow us to sue for thousands more than the actual damages cost?

 

[Tyrion Lannister]

Both sexes are completely irrational when it comes to the following:


Women -> Brand new kitchens

Men -> Brand new women

What's wrong with a brand new woman?

 

[Acala]

No, actually it is as if you planted flowers on your neighbor's lawn after getting permission from them and then they later sued you for thousands of dollars.

No, actually it is like your neighbor gave you permission to plant flowers on their property even though you both knew that they would be moving away shortly and when the new owner asked you to remove your flowers from their lawn, you, being a total douchenozzle, said no and got your assed properly sued for trespass and deserve what you get.

 

[Anti Federalist]

Why does the law allow us to sue for thousands more than the actual damages cost?

Punishment.

Punitive damages.

 

[Acala]

Why does the law allow us to sue for thousands more than the actual damages cost?

She agreed to the rules, including the penalties. Also, the Condo Owner's Association is forced to hire a lawyer to bring the suit and the woman must pay those fees. Because she won't stay on her own property.

 

[Anti Federalist]

Even single-family houses now have HOAs in most areas. It seems that most people naturally desire oppressive government. So much for the viability of anarchism.

Yes, yes they do, and it's a fact that too many in our "movement" fail to recognize or deal with with.

People, for the most part, never have wanted freedom, they want what people have wanted since the dawn of time: to be fed and entertained.

If they can also get a chance to lord over and boss their fellow citizens around, they'll jump on that opportunity as well.

Not only that, when they fall victim to these base desires, the corrupt institutions that pop up to support these desires are not likely to be changed by the people.

 

[Anti Federalist]

She agreed to the rules, including the penalties. Also, the Condo Owner's Association is forced to hire a lawyer to bring the suit and the woman must pay those fees. Because she won't stay on her own property.

She claims to have "permission" prior to there ever being a condo association.

Sad state of affairs where I have to hire an attorney to bat out a "pre existing conditions" waiver for a flower bed.

 

[dannno]

No, actually it is like your neighbor gave you permission to plant flowers on their property even though you both knew that they would be moving away shortly and when the new owner asked you to remove your flowers from their lawn, you, being a total douchenozzle, said no and got your assed properly sued for trespass and deserve what you get.

Well then it sounds like a problem that exists between the prior owner and the current owner... not the free landscaper the previous owner contracted out... It's merely incidental that she still lives there.

You just don't want to admit that the people that run these associates are often times fucking leeches.

 

[Acala]

She claims to have "permission" prior to there ever being a condo association.

Sad state of affairs where I have to hire an attorney to bat out a "pre existing conditions" waiver for a flower bed.

She claims a prior owner gave her permission. Fine. Prior owner is now gone. New owner of property wants flowers off the property. Woman with NO LEGAL RIGHT to insist her flowers remain on someone else's property stubbornly insists anyway thereby putting new owner in the position of having to hire a lawyer to make stubborn woman get her damn flowers off the new owner's property.

 

[Dr.3D]

I don't know. Im kinda siding with the condo association. Flowers are kind of like little muslims... any moment one might turn into a terrorist and go boom bloom.

For the sake of the children, just dig those terrorists up and pay your dues. For the children..

Fixed it for ya.

First it's flowers they want to grow, then its POT. Then they're giving the kids heroin. So, NO PLANTING FLOWERS. its for the children.

Yeah, those flowers are stepping stones to growing pot. LOL

 

[Acala]

Well then it sounds like a problem that exists between the prior owner and the current owner... not the free landscaper the previous owner contracted out... It's merely incidental that she still lives there.

You just don't want to admit that the people that run these associates are often times fucking leeches.

The world is full of leeches. But they still have property rights. And this woman is violating someone else's property rights and should have stopped when she was asked. She didn't. She insisted that she gets to keep her flowers on someone else's property. She is getting sued for it and deserves it.

 

[Brian4Liberty]

It still is NOT her property. In a condo, you don't own the common areas. You typically don't even own the outside of your walls. At least with a HOA you OWN your yard even though you have agreed not to do certain things with it. The land where she has planted the flowers is owned by someone else. She never owned it.

It is as if I planted flowers on my neighbor's lawn and then pitch a fit because my neighbor wants me to remove them.

It is owned by the collective community. If the collective agrees that she can plant flowers on the shared property, she can.

 

[oyarde]

I blame it on women (not all women) but ones who want a nice brand new home and can't think of anything else.

It is cheap enough for their husbands to afford these McMansions, but they don't think about the loss of privacy, loss of freedom to landscape, loss of freedom to do what you want on your land (i.e. setup a basketball hoop for your kids, or God forbid grow your own food). All they see is a brand new god damn kitchen and they throw everything else out the window.

I am aguy , and I want a brand new kitchen too , but not without a few acres Greetings Danno ! , I always got it right , except the brand new kitchen...... , eh , one of these dang days ...

 

[oyarde]

Both sexes are completely irrational when it comes to the following:


Women -> Brand new kitchens

Men -> Brand new women

Brand new women ? , NO WAY , THEN i WOULD HAVE TO START ALL OVER , teach them to filet fish , skin deer , operate a post hole digger , You really are scaring the crap out of me now , I no longer care about a new kitchen ..