NH GOP Straw Poll Results To Be Announced This Afternoon

If it was "party insiders" that voted, then this is even better, because that means that a chunk of the core GOP are starting to take Paul very seriously, and there are probably a lot of core GOP that do not like Romney for various and probably obvious reasons.

I think it's more that RP people fought their way into the core group, but that is just a guess. The chair was toppled for a tea party candidate as well, apparently.
 
Heh. A few of the posters at HotAir are already upset that Ron took 2nd.

hxxp://hotair.com/headlines/archives/2011/01/22/romney-wins-new-hampshire-gop-straw-poll/

I love these gems:

Fourth Place [Palin] is basically second place since it’s the likes of Paul and Pawlenty that she is behind at the moment.

I would call this a win for Palin.

...right...

BTW for those wondering about the Ron Paul numbers, that is the far north (more rural part) of the state talking. Mark Steyn lives up in northern Grafton County NH, and I’m sure he would attest to the number of Paulbots up in that neck of the woods.

So a Canadian living in NH doesn't *approve* of having to live amongst a bunch of 'Paulbots' according to this expert? OH NOES!!!!!
 
Q2: Most important issue for Republican presidential nominee to focus on:
Reducing the size of the federal government 49%

Q1: Who would you vote for if the NH presidential primary were held today.
Mitt Romney 35%
Ron Paul 11%

There's something wrong here ... Given Q2, the numbers on Q1 for Mitt and Ron should be reversed.

But yeah, this is a great result. :)

romney should be exposed asap on every issue!! CPAC 2011 Ron Paul 2012
 
According to http://www.politico.com/morningscore/0111/morningscore250.html

: "The candidate with the most to gain or lose in the straw poll is almost certainly former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney, who has consistently led polling on the New Hampshire primary by solid margins. Several Granite State politicos told Score Romney’s over-under number is probably in the low 40-percent range. Higher than that would be a genuinely impressive showing, lower might raise questions about just how powerful his lead is. After Romney, it’s anyone’s game. It’s possible that one of the candidates who’s put in time in New Hampshire (Tim Pawlenty, Newt Gingrich, Rick Santorum) or one of the activist favorites who hasn’t spent much or any time there (Mike Pence, Mike Huckabee, Ron Paul) could place a strong second."

This is great news. Romney really failed to meet expectations. What's more, according to the article, Ron Paul's not spent much time in the state, while Romney's nearly lived in it. Imagine what the result would be if Paul had campaigned heavily in the state. The media will downplay this, but it does indeed show that Paul's starting to be seen as a serious conservative choice.

Hopefully numbers like this and a win at CPAC will encourage him to run.
 
Ron Paul 11%
Gary Johnson 2%

So much for building the party.

Ron Paul needs to run in 2012 for the movement to have any shot.

Heh. A few of the posters at HotAir are already upset that Ron took 2nd.

I love these gems:

...right...

Oh come on, don't edit the comment you quoted. It's funnier/stupider in its entirety:

Wow, Ron Paul with 11%.

That tells me all I need to know about NH.

Must be a gaggle of 9/11 Troooofers up there.

I thought Palin was going to finish last in this straw poll?

Fourth Place is basically second place since it’s the likes of Paul and Pawlenty that she is behind at the moment.

I would call this a win for Palin. All she needs in NH is a win, place, or show. I think she can do that when she starts to show a few of these voters some attention.

Plenty of time to shake hands and kiss babies.

chief on January 22, 2011 at 3:36 PM
 
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Heh. A few of the posters at HotAir are already upset that Ron took 2nd.

hxxp://hotair.com/headlines/archives/2011/01/22/romney-wins-new-hampshire-gop-straw-poll/

I love these gems:



...right...



So a Canadian living in NH doesn't *approve* of having to live amongst a bunch of 'Paulbots' according to this expert? OH NOES!!!!!

Oh, man, that Palin comment is a riot!
 
...11% is not a great result. That is just a few points over what he normally gets in other polls. And i really, REALLY don't understand why people think Mitt Romney is going to reduce the size of the federal government. Not only is he possibly the most typical and slimy of all politicians i have ever seen, he also helped destroy health care in Massachusetts. I want to know what is going through their heads. I can understand someone thinking Palin will reduce the size of government, but I don't understand how they think mitt will. I can't say a single thing that he wants to do that would actually reduce the size of government to a point that would actually be beneficial.
 
Second place?

The only one of two with double digits?

In a straw poll of hidebound NH GOP "officials"?

With almost no advance warning to the grassroots?

That is an outstanding result.

It would have been an even better result if Ron would make it clear that he intends to run.
 
...11% is not a great result. That is just a few points over what he normally gets in other polls. And i really, REALLY don't understand why people think Mitt Romney is going to reduce the size of the federal government. Not only is he possibly the most typical and slimy of all politicians i have ever seen, he also helped destroy health care in Massachusetts. I want to know what is going through their heads. I can understand someone thinking Palin will reduce the size of government, but I don't understand how they think mitt will. I can't say a single thing that he wants to do that would actually reduce the size of government to a point that would actually be beneficial.

In other polls that number is usual 5th place though, or 4th. This is second and a tea partier was picked chair. And it was GOP committee members only voting.

I wasn't around at this point for the 2008 campaign, but it sure sounds better than what I heard he was getting at the comparable point in that election.
 
To borrow a phrase from Auburn University:

"All In!"

Lovers of liberty, time to awaken from your two year slumber and turn on your minds. It is time to train all your thoughts towards one end, towards one goal. It's time to begin with the end in mind and time for the mind to see the end. Everyone who would run against Ron is Politically weak. They have no chance if confronted with ideas. And they will do all they can to envelop themselves in image to protect them from ideas.

Rally! Rally! Rally!
 
Second place doesn't mean anything when he is barely above the second tier candidates like Palin and Pawlenty and Cain. These guys haven't even started campaigning to any great extent yet and we can still barely beat them after years of Blimps, money bombs, marches and sign holdings. You might say "well, Ron still has a lot of wiggle room to gain points!" but i don't think he does. I really don't think many of the Romney voters will switch to him, and i really don't think many of the voters for the lower percentage candidates will be going for Ron. Maybe I am wrong (i hope), but this puts him in the exact same position as almost ever other poll taken in the last couple of months. 11% is still good compared to what he got in the primaries and what he was polling at this time in the last election cycle, but i don't think we should view this as any great achievement because we already know that he is polling about that much. In other words, I don't think this poll is anything special compared to anything else we have had recently.

Why these people didn't vote for Huckabee or Palin or some other big name is beyond me, but the fact is that he is still hovering around the same percentage in every poll taken.

I'm not saying that we can't gain votes from any of those other candidates, and i think it is really interesting how when the field of players is diluted we rise above the rest, but we should not expect 20+ people to be on the ballot on election day to dilute votes enough so we win. Those votes are going to go somewhere (and if the OTHER polls are any indication they will be going to Palin Huckabee or Romney) but to where is still being decided. Do you think these votes will go to Ron or Romney?

Anyways, it is a good thing that he came in second, but first would have been much better.

And it is on the top of drudge right now.
 
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Keyword: officials

In other words the longtime follow the party line leadership. I don't expect good things here.

I stand corrected.....
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http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/01/mitt-romney-wins-new-hampshire-gop-straw-poll.php

Romney wins WMUR/ABC GOP NH straw poll w/ 35%. Paul at 11%; Tpaw at 8%; Palin at 7%: Bachmann at 5%

If it was "party insiders" that voted, then this is even better, because that means that a chunk of the core GOP are starting to take Paul very seriously, and there are probably a lot of core GOP that do not like Romney for various and probably obvious reasons.

and even elated.
 
...11% is not a great result. That is just a few points over what he normally gets in other polls. And i really, REALLY don't understand why people think Mitt Romney is going to reduce the size of the federal government. Not only is he possibly the most typical and slimy of all politicians i have ever seen, he also helped destroy health care in Massachusetts. I want to know what is going through their heads. I can understand someone thinking Palin will reduce the size of government, but I don't understand how they think mitt will. I can't say a single thing that he wants to do that would actually reduce the size of government to a point that would actually be beneficial.

Remember, this vote was PARTY insiders, not regular voters. 11% in a party that wanted to act like Ron didn't exist only a couple years ago is a HUGE step forward and it's a very good result, especially when he's beating the media darlings like Palin and the new darling Pence. No one should be surprised about Mitt's total. A lot of people think Mitt is the front runner this time around and plenty of party people like to vote for the guy they think will win, not necessarily who they support in principle. Having said that, read my earlier post on this thread about the liberal influence in the GOP that doesn't mind stuff like Obamacare. There's plenty of sheep, liberals, and idiots in the party...
 
Remember, this vote was PARTY insiders, not regular voters. 11% in a party that wanted to act like Ron didn't exist only a couple years ago is a HUGE step forward and it's a very good result, especially when he's beating the media darlings like Palin and the new darling Pence. No one should be surprised about Mitt's total. A lot of people think Mitt is the front runner this time around and plenty of party people like to vote for the guy they think will win, not necessarily who they support in principle. Having said that, read my earlier post on this thread about the liberal influence in the GOP that doesn't mind stuff like Obamacare. There's plenty of sheep, liberals, and idiots in the party...

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There is no doubt in my mind that we can win this thing.

Really? I'm not trying to be a party pooper, but how do you suppose the brainwashed masses will finally "see the light"? How do you get the 75 year old who is relying on social security to vote for a guy who they perceive is going to rip out their lifeblood? How about all the millions of faux news junkies and anti-free market socialists? Where/how are they going to change in any significant numbers?
 
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