Newt to Mitt: Don't ignore Ron Paul supporters

[TrishW]

Rand as VP. Ron Paul for foreign and domestic policy and budget. Between the VP and his Dad they can get it all done. Romney can just shake hands and smile pretty for pictures. Yeah, that would work! He'd have my support.

 

[The Goat]

You are correct. There is no binding when it comes to the VP selection. Traditionally, the delegates will simply rubber stamp whomever the nominee chooses. This is one of the reasons our gains as the state conventions could turn out to be very beneficial for the libertarian-conservative cause. While we may not have the strength in numbers to get Rand nominated as VP, we may have enough strength to push someone like DeMint who has a lot of crossover appeal within the party and is far more palatable to our folks than someone like Christie or Rubio.

I wouldn't vote for a Romney/DeMint ticket. DeMint will be quick to give up on the Pauls if he gets in a position like VP. DeMint is still owned by the establishment.

 

[Liberty74]

The ex-Democrat, professed progressive, bailout loving, flip flopping big government puppet who supports the FED and the IRS cannot court my vote. He can't say anything that would change my mind. Romney has a history against limited govt. He has already committed treason by saying he supports the NDAA and the guy is not even president yet.

 

[tbone717]

I wouldn't vote for a Romney/DeMint ticket. DeMint will be quick to give up on the Pauls if he gets in a position like VP. DeMint is still owned by the establishment.

And you are entitled to that opinion. However, there are Paul supporters that may vote for that ticket. Keep in mind that not every person that voted for Paul in the primaries is a hardcore Ron Paul or nothing type of activist. In reality, the majority of the folks that voted for Paul in the primaries, are average Republicans that just happened to prefer Paul over the rest of the field.

Any move the Romney campaign makes really isn't a move to court the hardcore Paul activist. It only takes a few moments of browsing this site and DP to see that the few thousand of the hardcore activists won't be satisfied with anything but Paul on the ticket (and even some won't even support it unless Ron is at the top of the ticket). They get that, and they realize the hardcore Paul support is a lost cause for them. But there are plenty of other people out there that like Paul, but are still able to be won over - those are the ones any courting would be directed to.

 

[Lucille]

He's not ignoring us. Isn't he investigating all delegates in order to oust potential RPRs or whatever?

I'd rather eat glass than vote for Obamney. Nor would I vote Romney if Rand were on the ticket. I don't want Rand anywhere NEAR that Corporatist Welfare-Warfare-Police State loser. Also, what Mordan said.

 

[PatriotOne]

Newt to Mitt: Don't ignore Ron Paul supporters

Me to Mitt: Don't bother, I would not believe you anyways

 

[twomp]

And you are entitled to that opinion. However, there are Paul supporters that may vote for that ticket. Keep in mind that not every person that voted for Paul in the primaries is a hardcore Ron Paul or nothing type of activist. In reality, the majority of the folks that voted for Paul in the primaries, are average Republicans that just happened to prefer Paul over the rest of the field.

Any move the Romney campaign makes really isn't a move to court the hardcore Paul activist. It only takes a few moments of browsing this site and DP to see that the few thousand of the hardcore activists won't be satisfied with anything but Paul on the ticket (and even some won't even support it unless Ron is at the top of the ticket). They get that, and they realize the hardcore Paul support is a lost cause for them. But there are plenty of other people out there that like Paul, but are still able to be won over - those are the ones any courting would be directed to.

You are forgetting the other half of the Paul supporters ~ the Democratic/Independent leaning folks. I'd stay home rather then vote for a Romney/Demint ticket... gag....

 

[slamhead]

Romney just needs to get out of the way so we can throw Obama out.

 

[tbone717]

You are forgetting the other half of the Paul supporters ~ the Democratic/Independent leaning folks. I'd stay home rather then vote for a Romney/Demint ticket... gag....

Oh I understand that totally, just pointing out that if Romney attempts to court any portion of the Paul voters, they surely are aware that there is a percentage of them that will never support the ticket. They will never get full support of the Paul base, just as Paul would never get 100% support of Romney's base or even Santorum's base. If you mosey over to freerepublic and do a little searching you will see that there are folks over there that would never vote for Paul if he were the nominee.

It is like that for almost every presidential candidate, they do what they can to capture the largest percentage of other candidate's support with full knowledge that they will never be able to sway 100% of that base.

 

[DEGuy]

My crystal ball says Romney will throw out some half-ass liberty terms that are just vague enough to capture a few liberty minded votes, but not forceful enough to make the establishment worried. Look for terms like, "Increased scrutiny of the Federal Reserve" and "Stop federal intrusion into your everyday life"

I MIGHT consider Romney if he campaigned on a platform of how he would put an end to the fed, balance the budget, and stop NDAA. But we know that won't happen, and the only specific topic he's campaigning on is the repeal ObamneyCare.

 

[pacu44]

We will be ignored this time around and the GOP will Co-opt the liberty movement in 2016... That is what the RNC is thinking... Watch...

No one but Paul...

 

[wgadget]

Well, at least Grinch is finally admitting that they've been ignoring us...

 

[Dianne]

If Romney wins its time to start a Democrat liberty movment. Would probably be easier anyway. too many Republicans think nothing is wrong, America fuck ya! At least Democrats know something is wrong, they just have no idea what to do about it.

I'm always amazed when I visit sites like Democratic Underground. There is very little difference between their site and ours', only they don't know it. They've fallen prey to the news media propaganda about Ron Paul and believe him to be a racist. And for some reason they are in denial to the fact that Obama is just another DINO.

Social programs are a big division, but as far as an end to war mongering and civil rights issues, I'm far closer to the democratic party then the GOP. I hate the republican party, lol. Only joined it for Ron Paul.

 

[Athan]

I'd consider voting for Romney if he filled the positions of power around him with people that I trusted to do the good work we've been pushing for.

Mitt Romney is a puppet. We talk about it all the time. He'll change his tune to whatever it needs to be to get elected. If doing what *we want* is what he needs to do to get elected and to stay there, then I'm fine with that. If he's going to be our puppet while we can extend the message of liberty into the reaches of power, why not?

Do I think that will happen? Probably not, the chances of that happening are probably as low as Dr. Paul's chances of securing the nomination on a first round ballot. The establishment will cling to the status quo unto their dying breath. But I wouldn't go so far as to say that, for me personally, there are absolutely no conditions under which I'd be willing to consider casting my vote for Romney.

You should note that musing considering voting for Romney that you should take into account that even if he did what you asked, once he is elected, he can simply refuse to keep those people on board (excluding the VP) before he takes office. Experience shows that you should have more skepticism. They aren't just politicians, they are political operatives who will turn on you when you least expect it. I've seen some pretty dishonest people even at the local county level that can only be described as two-faced.

 

[NoOneButPaul]

Calling it now... what we'll get offered is a FULL audit of the FED and position for Ron he might not even want to take.

Anything they try to appease us on will be FED related and it will be all smoke and mirrors.

 

[jbauer]

His cabinet has a better chance of having Santa Clause, the Easter Bunny and the Tooth Fairy on it then it does of having liberty mided folks on it.

Eh, we can all have our own opinions. If I saw a Romney/Rand ticket and a cabinet ready to be stacked with liberty-lovers, like say Judge Napolitano for AG etc., I'd be hard pressed to not to support that administration.

Granted, that's not going to happen. So this is all just a theoretical exercise.

 

[BestVirginia]

Only way I'd vote for a Romney ticket would be if he had been chosen as Ron's VP. And even then, I would doubt that Ron's delegates would elect such a fraud

 

[speciallyblend]

music keeps me happier, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OzKin-uiBwY<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OzKin-uiBwY"> NOBP Ron Paul 2012

 

[RonPaul101.com]

We will be ignored this time around and the GOP will Co-opt the liberty movement in 2016... That is what the RNC is thinking... Watch...

Very true, if it becomes popular enough they will steal it just like they did with the Tea Party, and they will install some quasi-liberty liar in place of a real conservative libertarian. Voters will be told that Palin/DeMint or such are true liberty candidates.

Interestingly enough Romney might be the only person I can rule out voting for entirely. If Ron is the nominee or runs Indy, obviously I'd vote for him, otherwise a Paul write in or Johnson vote would be most likely, or even possibly helping out Obama since at least that will bring about change 4 years faster in a GOP primary than if Romney were to win.

As I see it most likely Obama wins in 2012 despite doing an absolutely deplorable job in term 1. Romney is far too weak and is an uninspiring liar, and Paul is not widely accepted by his party, so the party will almost certainly lose to Obama.

The only way Obama loses is if Ron Paul beats him. Which is a good thing IMO. The only thing worse than real change is fake change once again. If no Paul, then just keep the same fraud in place and we'll try again sooner. This changing of the guard that doesn't bring on a change in policy is what is keeping the voters eye off the ball most of the time. The fight of my side versus your side needs to end.

 

[coffeewithchess]

Only way Romney could get my vote was with Ron or Rand as vp.

And what exactly did Dick Cheney or has Joe Biden done?