Newt Gingrich thinks Rand Paul will sway 90% of Ron Paul Supporters to Vote for Romney

[affa]

I wonder if his statement reflects the general attitude of the GOP towards us.

No, it represents the official media statement of the establishment. Other talking heads have been saying the same thing - it's a unified front from the GOP to try to further marginalize us.

 

[wgadget]

Prolly the reason Rand had a speaking slot, too.

 

[puppetmaster]

Newt is as stupid as he looks

 

[NorfolkPCSolutions]

Newt is as scary as his wife looks.

FIXED

 

[Revolution9]

Calista made him say that. "Newt honey, look into my eyes."

She is sanpaku.

"Conversely when the upper sclera is visible this is called 'Yang Sanpaku'. This is said to be an indication of mental imbalance in people such as psychotics, murderers, and anyone rageful. Stress and fatigue may also be a cause.[SUP][1]"


Rev9[/SUP]

 

[Origanalist]

She is sanpaku.

"Conversely when the upper sclera is visible this is called 'Yang Sanpaku'. This is said to be an indication of mental imbalance in people such as psychotics, murderers, and anyone rageful. Stress and fatigue may also be a cause.[SUP][1]"

Rev9[/SUP]

Thanks for the nightmares.

 

[Occam's Banana]

Newt is as stupid as he looks

No, he isn't. He's vile, contemptible and evil, maybe. But he's not stupid.

People are making a huge mistake by listening to *what* he said and reacting to that.

What's important is *why* he said it (and why so many others are saying - or are going to say - the same sorts of things).

(Correction: Newt IS vile, contemptible and evil - no "maybe" about it.)

it represents the official media statement of the establishment. Other talking heads have been saying the same thing - it's a unified front from the GOP to try to further marginalize us.

THIS^^ is the correct interpretation. The Establishment is desperate to prevent the liberty movement from gaining ANY credibility in the eyes of "normal" people. And THAT is what this and all the RNC shenanigans are *really* all about.

THAT is why - to cite just one example - they refused to announce the votes that Ron Paul got from each state delegation. If they had treated Ron Paul as if there was nothing special about him - as if he was just another candidate, like any other - they would have given a great deal of "social credibility" to Ron Paul and his supporters.

They dare not do any such thing. It would be a complete and utter disaster for the Establishment if Ron Paul's ideas ever gain significant social credibility.

So by claiming that "90% of Ron Paul supporters will vote for Romney," Gingrich and others are NOT trying to make an observation (correct or incorrect) about something that they think is going to happen. Whether the statement is true or false is *completely* beside the point.

They are atempting to defuse any social credibility Ron Paul's ideas might have gained by reassuring mainstream Republicans that most of this kooky man's kooky supporters have hopped on board the Romney Train. The "ten percent" who aren't are "obviously" incorrigible kooks and can be dismissed as such, thus further depriving Ron Paul's ideas of social credibility.

It isn't about speaking the truth or being right. It isn't about having the facts on your side. It isn't about persuading people with well-reasoned intellectual arguments.

It's about exploiting (most) peoples' desire to avoid feeling that they are outside the borders of consensus opinion.

Gingrich & Co. are manipulative, cunning, and evil. But people who think Gingrich & Co. are clueless are ... well, clueless.

 

[Warrior_of_Freedom]

Just like how Gingrich said he was going to win the nomination, then dropped out a week later!

 

[libertariantexas]

Not a chance in HELL I'll vote for Romney.

I'm voting for Libertarian Gary Johnson, and I'm as likely to vote for Obama as Romney (0% chance for either).

 

[tod evans]

Newt thinks.......


I stopped reading right there..

Newt is only a front-man.

 

[Maltheus]

Just Newt projecting his bi-polar nature onto others.

 

[hummtide]

Once a Dr. Ron Paul supporter.. ALWAYS a Dr. Ron Paul supporter! I WILL NEVER SELL OUT E V E R!!! Thats like asking me to be an Auburn fan
<---shudders

 

[drummergirl]

Undoubtedly true. The usual MO for the party is for the post primary kiss-and-make-up for the general election. Except THIS time, the way the GOP treated the Paul delegates means a break-up instead of a make-up.

I wonder if his statement reflects the general attitude of the GOP towards us.

 

[alucard13mmfmj]

So.. how many delegates did Gingrich get at the end? 1-2? Ron gotz 170+.

 

[Matt Collins]

 

[jbauer]

What would truley mean something would be what % of voters for Santorum and Gingrich will vote for Rmoney.

If 90% of all RP supporters will but 99.9% of Santorum etal will vote for Rmoney then thats a big number. Heck 10% of 2 Million voters is a big chunk. If they come in some of todays swing states it could mean the difference between a Rmoney win vs loss.

 

[BlackTerrel]

A majority of the two million people who voted for Ron Paul in the primaries this year likely will vote for Romney, just as a majority did for McCain in 2008. Paul gets a lot more regular Republican support than many in the media, and even here, give him credit for.

This.... unfortunately.

This forum has 40,000 members. Being generous it's 10,000 active members.

To think that is representative of the 2 million who voted for Ron is a stretch.

 

[BlackTerrel]

Honestly, I don't think Rand wants any of us to vote for Mittens. He just can't say that because it's not in his playbook. I think we're kind of supposed to read between the lines and get this. The bigger the crash-and-burn for the GOP in 2012, the better for Rand's future. He knows this and hopes we know it.

I agree. It is in Rand's and all of our interests that Obama wins in 2012. That is how I will be voting.