New Zealand Terror Attack: Australian gunman shoots dead several people in Christchurch mosque

[RJB]

Nobody I have heard of is actually comparing this to a genocide. Although small and big massacres make u a genocide, this is not a genocide yet.

It lurks in the blackest pits of all groups of people. However, most would rather talk of headwear and fashion. Such is the human race.

 

[PursuePeace]

There are more Muslim sects in Islam than there are in Christianity- and in both, some are harsh but many are benevolent.

The World’s Biggest Muslim Organization Wants to Protect Christians
https://www.christianitytoday.com/n...n-300-islamic-leaders-denounce-extremism.html


Muslims protect Christians in Kenyan bus attack; tell terrorists 'You'll have to kill us all'
https://www.ajc.com/news/national/m...sts-you-have-kill-all/eELDJYQudkxSHbpzldvOJK/

Yes. I'm pointing out the harsh. Just as I point it out in christianity and other religions.
There's a lot of horror going on in the world, in the name of God.
Religion does not = God.

As far as the scarves for solidarity. There are women who are beaten for not wearing a hijab. Until those women stop being beaten, maybe they should all stop wearing hijabs to show solidarity to those women who are being abused. That was basically the point I was trying to make. I found it odd that women were showing solidarity in that particular way.

You can't cancel out the "harsh sects" by focusing on the "nice" sects of any religion.

 

[juleswin]

It lurks in the blackest pits of all groups of people. However, most would rather talk of headwear and fashion. Such is the human race.

I blame the people making a big deal out of it on twitter but dress code is a very important aspect of these kinds of event. There is nothing wrong with bringing it up

 

[RJB]

I blame the people making a big deal out of it on twitter but dress code is a very important aspect of these kinds of event. There is nothing wrong with bringing it up

You're may be right. I'm just extremely cynical today.

 

[devil21]

I think he means the commenters you quoted.

[MENTION=36656]AngryCanadian[/MENTION]
Yeah I meant the commenters, not you.

 

[mrsat_98]

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[Danke]

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Live Streamed Video.

Thanks...?

 

[timosman]

Australian man questioned over Facebook posts

An Australian man is greeted by 3 cops who wanted to question him over posting about New Zealand and that his opinions were inappropriate

 

[enhanced_deficit]

On a related note, there is another global/domestic aspect to this story emerging. Various world leaders and US Dems/media are calling on POTUS to change his tone among other things:


Trump Assails News Accounts Linking Him to New Zealand Massacre

March 18, 2019

The Fake News Media is working overtime to blame me for the horrible attack in New Zealand. They will have to work very hard to prove that one. So Ridiculous!

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) March 18, 2019

​

Hirono calls out Trump for 'appalling' comments she says encourage violence


In Wake Of Mass Shooting, New Zealand's Ardern Calls For Global Fight Against Racism

March 20, 2019
Dalia Mortada

New Zealand's Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern visited Cashmere High School in Christchurch, which lost two current students to the shootings at two mosques last Friday that killed 50 people.
Vincent Thian/AP
New Zealand Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern returned to Christchurch for the second time since a gunman killed 50 people in an attack on two mosques last Friday.
Her first stop was at Cashmere High School, which lost two current students and one former student in last week's shooting, NPR's Rob Schmitz reported.
https://www.npr.org/2019/03/20/7050...ds-ardern-calls-for-global-fight-against-raci


In the shadow of Christchurch, let’s drive racism out of Australian politics

Why does it seem so hard for people to grasp the connection between hate-filled speech and hate-filled violence? The alleged attacker who carried out Friday’s massacre in Christchurch, New Zealand, was acting on a toxic belief system — one that has been long nurtured by opportunists in politics and the media, in Australia and elsewhere.
Those innocent victims — the toll now stands at 50— reaped what others had sowed.
The alleged gunman, a 28-year-old Australian, saturated himself in the verbal violence of Islamophobia and white supremacy. His manifesto name-checks figures from outside Australia: people such as the United States’ Candace Owens and Norway’s murderous Anders Breivik.
But there are also those at home who’ve created the soil to nourish violence.
Last August, a Queensland senator, Fraser Anning, used his first speech to Parliament to call for a return to a “European Christian” immigration system and a ban on Muslims migrating to Australia, even managing to work in the repulsive phrase “final solution.”
He was condemned, but he’s still in Parliament. In the hours after the Christchurch attack, he used his parliamentary letterhead to present his response, essentially blaming the victims for their own deaths.
In its general programming, Sky News Australia has turned into our version of Fox News. (Both are controlled by the Australian-turned-American media baron Rupert Murdoch.) Sky’s attention-seeking programming even included an interview last year with Blair Cottrell, a Hitler-admiring, far-right extremist who had been found guilty of inciting contempt, revulsion or ridicule of Muslims.
In a Murdoch-owned tabloid in Melbourne, prominent columnist Andrew Bolt has written of “us” disappearing as “a tidal wave of immigrants sweeps away what’s left of our national identity.”
Meanwhile, the politician in charge of immigration, Peter Dutton, has seized on criminal behavior by some young immigrants in Melbourne to condemn a wave of “African gang violence” so severe that Victorians were “scared to go out to restaurants” — a statement that was widely mocked.
It was also Dutton who suggested Australia should provide special help to white farmers from South Africa — arguing that they were being persecuted and needed help from a “civilized country” like Australia.
The Australian media and politicians, in other words, have form when it comes to flirting with racism. Sometimes the racism is explicit, as seen in the rise of Pauline Hanson’s One Nation; sometimes it’s more guarded.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...ch-lets-drive-racism-out-australian-politics/





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New Zealand to broadcast Muslim call for prayer on national TV, radio on Friday
AFP
March 20, 2019
https://www.sbs.com.au/news/a-week-...to-broadcast-muslim-call-to-prayer-nationally

 

[timosman]

This photo looks terribly shopped. They must be working under a lot of stress.

Sometimes the racism is explicit, as seen in the rise of Pauline Hanson’s One Nation; sometimes it’s more guarded.

Nice story. How about globalism/communism? How guarded it is?

 

[AngryCanadian]

In Wake Of Mass Shooting, New Zealand's Ardern Calls For Global Fight Against Racism

In Italy today an African Migrant sized and threaten to murder 51 Italian Children on Buses, setting the bus on fire, Mainstream News Media reported it? NOPE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[AngryCanadian]

On a related note, there is another global/domestic aspect to this story emerging. Various world leaders and US Dems/media are calling on POTUS to change his tone among other things:


Trump Assails News Accounts Linking Him to New Zealand Massacre

March 18, 2019

The Fake News Media is working overtime to blame me for the horrible attack in New Zealand. They will have to work very hard to prove that one. So Ridiculous!

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) March 18, 2019

​

Hirono calls out Trump for 'appalling' comments she says encourage violence


In Wake Of Mass Shooting, New Zealand's Ardern Calls For Global Fight Against Racism

March 20, 2019
Dalia Mortada

New Zealand's Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern visited Cashmere High School in Christchurch, which lost two current students to the shootings at two mosques last Friday that killed 50 people.
Vincent Thian/AP
New Zealand Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern returned to Christchurch for the second time since a gunman killed 50 people in an attack on two mosques last Friday.
Her first stop was at Cashmere High School, which lost two current students and one former student in last week's shooting, NPR's Rob Schmitz reported.
https://www.npr.org/2019/03/20/7050...ds-ardern-calls-for-global-fight-against-raci


In the shadow of Christchurch, let’s drive racism out of Australian politics

Why does it seem so hard for people to grasp the connection between hate-filled speech and hate-filled violence? The alleged attacker who carried out Friday’s massacre in Christchurch, New Zealand, was acting on a toxic belief system — one that has been long nurtured by opportunists in politics and the media, in Australia and elsewhere.
Those innocent victims — the toll now stands at 50— reaped what others had sowed.
The alleged gunman, a 28-year-old Australian, saturated himself in the verbal violence of Islamophobia and white supremacy. His manifesto name-checks figures from outside Australia: people such as the United States’ Candace Owens and Norway’s murderous Anders Breivik.
But there are also those at home who’ve created the soil to nourish violence.
Last August, a Queensland senator, Fraser Anning, used his first speech to Parliament to call for a return to a “European Christian” immigration system and a ban on Muslims migrating to Australia, even managing to work in the repulsive phrase “final solution.”
He was condemned, but he’s still in Parliament. In the hours after the Christchurch attack, he used his parliamentary letterhead to present his response, essentially blaming the victims for their own deaths.
In its general programming, Sky News Australia has turned into our version of Fox News. (Both are controlled by the Australian-turned-American media baron Rupert Murdoch.) Sky’s attention-seeking programming even included an interview last year with Blair Cottrell, a Hitler-admiring, far-right extremist who had been found guilty of inciting contempt, revulsion or ridicule of Muslims.
In a Murdoch-owned tabloid in Melbourne, prominent columnist Andrew Bolt has written of “us” disappearing as “a tidal wave of immigrants sweeps away what’s left of our national identity.”
Meanwhile, the politician in charge of immigration, Peter Dutton, has seized on criminal behavior by some young immigrants in Melbourne to condemn a wave of “African gang violence” so severe that Victorians were “scared to go out to restaurants” — a statement that was widely mocked.
It was also Dutton who suggested Australia should provide special help to white farmers from South Africa — arguing that they were being persecuted and needed help from a “civilized country” like Australia.
The Australian media and politicians, in other words, have form when it comes to flirting with racism. Sometimes the racism is explicit, as seen in the rise of Pauline Hanson’s One Nation; sometimes it’s more guarded.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...ch-lets-drive-racism-out-australian-politics/





Related

New Zealand to broadcast Muslim call for prayer on national TV, radio on Friday
AFP
March 20, 2019
https://www.sbs.com.au/news/a-week-...to-broadcast-muslim-call-to-prayer-nationally

New Zealand to broadcast Muslim call for prayer on national TV, radio on Friday

Looks like New Zealand is becoming the new Islamist version of Bosnia.

 

[Danke]

Muslim is a race?

 

[enhanced_deficit]

New Zealand to broadcast Muslim call for prayer on national TV, radio on Friday

Looks like New Zealand is becoming the new Islamist version of Bosnia.

It is pretty stunning even if just a symbolic gesture.

But it's an emotional reactive step. Close to home, what happened in 2008 after widespread regret/guilt over few years of Iraq war bloodbath was much more material step as much as it was symbolic.


54% of US Republicans believe Obama is a Muslim

 

[juleswin]

In Italy today an African Migrant sized and threaten to murder 51 Italian Children on Buses, setting the bus on fire, Mainstream News Media reported it? NOPE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Any link to the story? I wanna read it myself

 

[Danke]

Any link to the story? I wanna read it myself

Long lost relative who immigrated to Senegal?

 

[enhanced_deficit]

Muslim is a race?

'Race' can turn into an elastic concept LOL

These Australia/NZ folks might be looking at latest shooting incidence in the context of what has been happening there over past decade. Before the latest media blitz about Muslims, for many years there have been incidences of violence targetting Indians, Chinese and other minorities reportedly.

Australia PM slams 'ugly racial protests' in Melbourne
Far-right demonstrators gave Nazi salutes at anti-immigration rally
Prime Minister Scott Morrison on Sunday slammed "ugly racial protests" in Australia's second-largest city, after some far-right demonstrators gave Nazi salutes.
Agence France-Presse
Jan 6, 2019

Violence at rival Australian immigration protests
PublishedJun 26, 2016, 7:28 pm SGT
SYDNEY (AFP) - Rival immigration protesters clashed for the second time in a month in Melbourne on Sunday (June 26), with three people arrested as the government vowed to crack down on mask-wearing demonstrators.

Several media personalities, celebrities and news outlets are reporting the New Zealand terrorist who killed 49 people at multiple mosques on Friday is a supporter of U.S. President Trump.
Many are focusing on a portion of the shooter’s manifesto where he answers the question, “Were you/are you a supporter of Donald Trump?” by saying, “As a symbol of renewed white identity and common purpose? Sure. As a policy maker and leader? Dear god no.”
The first half of the answer is the only portion being widely reported, while the “Dear god no” statement is being totally ignored.

Media tries to conflate/make things ambigious sometimes (to be fair as does MAGA sometimes) , media did pretty much same same in the case of PA Shooter when he had stated clearly that he was not a MAGA supporter:

Tweets by PA Synagogue Shooter Robert Bowers

 

[juleswin]

Long lost relative who immigrated to Senegal?

None of my relatives are long or lost. They are all under 4ft and accounted for. Thank you very much for your concern.

 

[Swordsmyth]

In Italy today an African Migrant sized and threaten to murder 51 Italian Children on Buses, setting the bus on fire, Mainstream News Media reported it? NOPE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

https://twitter.com/BreakingNLive/status/1108424673946157057

 

[Swordsmyth]

Any link to the story? I wanna read it myself

https://twitter.com/TeaBoots/status/1108398819459387392