New video released of police beating Kelly Thomas to death (graphic photo in thread)

[dillo]

Circular force continuum. If he had immediately complied and been choked to death then they wouldn't have needed to beat him. I know some bleeding heart will probably post that he may have been mentally ill but EVERYBODY knows that you should submit to lawful actions by a police officer. People that are mentally ill just like to use their illness as an excuse. Now, all because of him, two officers with YEARS of service and more than likely commendations and such might lose their jobs over this.

If you cant submit someone without a taser you shouldnt be a cop. If you injure someone as a result of an arrest that should have never happened, you should lose your job.

 

[heavenlyboy34]

C'mon guys. Quit thinking collectivism. We weren't there. We don't know EXACTLY what happened. For all we know the MEDICS beat him in the ambulance on the way to the hospital. Yeah, that's the ticket. It was PROBABLY the medics that did this to him and then BLAMING the cops for it. Scumbag medics. Framing our heroes this way. We are lucky the officers were able to make it home to their families.

Already mentioned this on another thread, but it merits repeating. Cops make themselves a collective. ("The Brotherhood") People like the posters you're referring to are simply talking about things as they are.

 

[Anti Federalist]

Already mentioned this on another thread, but it merits repeating. Cops make themselves a collective. ("The Brotherhood") People like the posters you're referring to are simply talking about things as they are.

Yes, exactly right.

I hope those that think I am on some kind of personal vendetta because I "hate cops" and am judging them through a "collectivist" lens, understands that.

They have joined the collective, not I, and they are ones bonding together and acting collectively while enforcing the, increasingly Draconian, rules of the Regime.

As such their actions, not as individual people, but as the collective, must be judged.

 

[slamhead]

Ramos..."see my fist?" He was just itching to beat someone that night.

 

[heavenlyboy34]

Yes, exactly right.

I hope those that think I am on some kind of personal vendetta because I "hate cops" and am judging them through a "collectivist" lens, understands that.

They have joined the collective, not I, and they are ones bonding together and acting collectively while enforcing the, increasingly Draconian, rules of the Regime.

As such their actions, not as individual people, but as the collective, must be judged.

I always thought "The Brotherhood" was awfully, disturbingly similar to something a rather high-tech street gang would call themselves.

 

[azxd]

I sure hope Ron Paul wins the election, so all of this can be stopped.

He's anti-cop ... Right ?

 

[PaulConventionWV]

Violence is not the path to liberty. It will only strengthen the state.

And for those who don't understand what "resisting arrest" means, it is a catch all that they can (and do) charge anybody with. Unless you immediately dive head first into their cop car, you may be charged (and even then they will make up something else to get you on).

Violence is justified when it is initiated on you. Do you not believe in self-defense, or are you one of those hippies that thinks everyone should just lay back and take it, no matter what. I know most anarchists/voluntarists (I'm sick of the non-word "voluntaryist") advocate self-defense, so which is it?

 

[PaulConventionWV]

Yes, you do have the moral right. But doing so against a gang of people calling themselves "the police" is impractical in terms of the end goal of achieving liberty. Additionally, unlike the common criminal, there is the fact that they for the most part do not understand that their jobs are immoral and entail the initiation of violence.

I think they understand. There is no way someone can beat another person to a pulp as part of THEIR JOB, and not realize that violence is part of their job.

 

[Travlyr]

I sure hope Ron Paul wins the election, so all of this can be stopped.

He's anti-cop ... Right ?

Yes. Ron Paul is a strict Constitutionalist.

Amendment V

No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.

Cops really shouldn't be killing people. It is against natural law.

 

[tod evans]

Yes. Ron Paul is a strict Constitutionalist.


Cops really shouldn't be killing people. It is against natural law.

Don't forget that pesky "Standing Army" thing ......

 

[Pericles]

What is the difference between Fullerton CA, and the Warsaw ghetto? 70 years

 

[phill4paul]

I sure hope Ron Paul wins the election, so all of this can be stopped.

He's anti-cop ... Right ?

 

[PaulConventionWV]

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lan...wo-fullerton-cops-ordered-to-stand-trial.html

Cops ordered to stand trial. Pull up a chair we might get to watch a BBQ.

Cicinelli's stepfather:

“It’s going to have to go to a jury, and the jury is going to have to say no way,” he said.

He's going to make them an offer they can't refuse...

 

[PaulConventionWV]

I sure hope Ron Paul wins the election, so all of this can be stopped.

He's anti-cop ... Right ?

What are you on about now?

 

[Captain Shays]

NEVER FORGET Hope Stephie. Please don't forget her.

She is my wife. She is my daughter. She is my mother. She is my sister.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGFAc8Q79iY

 

[Captain Shays]

When will enough be enough? I am ready to fight back but not alone

 

[Anti Federalist]

Thread winner.

Jeez, like shooting tuna fish in a barrel, isn't it?

 

[Anti Federalist]

When will enough be enough? I am ready to fight back but not alone

I don't know.

I know a lot of us are fed up, as this continues to spiral out of control.

There is some push back, here and there, but nothing of any real significance.

Hold!

 

[Anti Federalist]

What are you on about now?

He might give you a coherent explanation, or he may not.

As I see it, azxd has become my self appointed critic, and has assumed the role of following me around in every police abuse thread that I post, because he seems to think I am unfairly criticizing and collectivizing law enforcement personnel who are, in his view, mostly just decent people trying to do their jobs.

He also feels that these posts are not "political" and thus, should not be cluttering up a political sub forum.

 

[PaulConventionWV]

He might give you a coherent explanation, or he may not.

As I see it, azxd has become my self appointed critic, and has assumed the role of following me around in every police abuse thread that I post, because he seems to think I am unfairly criticizing and collectivizing law enforcement personnel who are, in his view, mostly just decent people trying to do their jobs.

He also feels that these posts are not "political" and thus, should not be cluttering up a political sub forum.

Posh. If there's one thing I've learned about cop-lovers, it's that they never admit they're wrong.