NEW VIDEO EVIDENCE: McCain's darkest Secrets REVEALED!!!

This is what we have been waiting for, the black heart of McCain to rear it's ugly head.

The NY Times, in it's zeal to be the first, beat the other outlets in smearing him BEFORE he had the nomination locked up, making him easily beatable by the left nominee.

Get busy folks, this is what we needed! The other outlets will pick this up and chrush him.

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WASHINGTON, Feb 21 (Reuters) - The New York Times said on Wednesday that Republican presidential hopeful John McCain had a close relationship with a lobbyist nine years ago in a potential conflict with his high ethical stances, but McCain's campaign sharply dismissed the report.

The McCain campaign said the paper had engaged in a "hit and run smear campaign" in a lengthy report published on its Web site. McCain, an Arizona senator who has long promoted high ethical standards among lawmakers, is all but certain to be the Republican candidate in the Nov. 4 presidential election.

"He has never violated the public trust, never done favors for special interests or lobbyists, and he will not allow a smear campaign to distract from the issues at stake in this election," the campaign said in a statement issued by its communications director, Jill Hazelbaker.

"Americans are sick and tired of this kind of gutter politics, and there is nothing in this story to suggest that John McCain has ever violated the principles that have guided his career."

McCain will address the Times story at a news conference in Toledo, Ohio, at 9 a.m. EST (1400 GMT) on Thursday, his campaign said.

In its report, the Times cited instances where it said McCain had appeared to undermine his own demands for high ethical behavior from members of Congress.

The paper focused on what it said was a close relationship with a telecommunications lobbyist, Vicki Iseman, saying that early in McCain's failed bid for the 2000 presidential election, members of his campaign had grown concerned the relationship might harm the campaign.

"Convinced the relationship had become romantic, some of his top advisers intervened to protect the candidate from himself -- instructing staff members to block the woman's access, privately warning her away and repeatedly confronting him, several people involved in the campaign said on the condition of anonymity," the Times said.

DENIALS

The paper said both McCain and Iseman had denied any romantic relationship. McCain told the Times also that he never showed favoritism to Iseman or her clients.

"But to his advisers, even the appearance of a close bond with a lobbyist whose clients often had business before the Senate committee Mr. McCain led threatened the story of redemption and rectitude that defined his political identity," the paper said.

The paper's report was likely to ignite a fierce response from supporters as McCain, a Vietnam War hero, presses ahead with this campaign on a platform of high ethical standards.

"It is a shame that the New York Times has lowered its standards to engage in a hit and run smear campaign. John McCain has a 24-year record of serving our country with honor and integrity," the McCain campaign said in its statement.

The New York Times has published prominent pieces on other leading candidates in the race for the presidency.

They included a long piece earlier this month about the occasional use of drugs by Democrat Barack Obama when he was a student, which Obama had himself detailed in a memoir. The paper last year ran a lengthy article about the state of Democratic candidate Hillary Clinton's relationship with her husband, former President Bill Clinton.

McCain was asked about the Times story by reporters at the airport in Toledo, after returning from campaign events in Illinois. "I haven't seen it yet, so I can't comment," he said. (Writing by Frances Kerry, Editing by Howard Goller)
 
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Well, since McCain (as well as the majority of American apparently) considers himself the Republican nominee and has started attacking the apparent democrat nominee (Barak Obama), it only makes sense that the MSM will bring out this horde of real scandal from McCain's past to make sure that he goes down in November (assuming of course that he does get the nomination).

Don't you think that has been the Democrat's plan from the beginning? They can crush McCain. That's why all this stuff comes out now and not a year ago when he was broke.
 
Didn't Ron Paul make mention to something like this a few weeks ago? Something like , "we do not know what might come out about the other candidates..."?
 
I thought the "Secrets" video on Conan was pretty funny. I don't like McCain, but that sketch was good.
 
I am very skeptical about this recent piece of "dirt" dug up on McCain. There's far much worse in his closet yet they could only come up with a possible relationship between him and a lobbyiest that happened 7 or 8 years ago? So far, I've been hearing that the NYT's is coming under heavy fire, because it had nothing to back up it's claim.

So that leaves me to wonder whether the powers that be, are trying to head off any more substanative news stories that would expose McCain (like the Vets who say McCain is lying about being tortured), as well as other skeletons - that could be far more damaging.

I'm just speculating here but maybe this current story is intentionally lame, in order to entice a backlash - which will favor McCain. The intended result being that the public will view any future accusations as political smear jobs with no basis in fact.
 
So that leaves me to wonder whether the powers that be, are trying to head off any more substanative news stories that would expose McCain (like the Vets who say McCain is lying about being tortured), as well as other skeletons - that could be far more damaging.

I'm just speculating here but maybe this current story is intentionally lame, in order to entice a backlash - which will favor McCain. The intended result being that the public will view any future accusations as political smear jobs with no basis in fact.

Like the way a certain national guard controversy was skirted by the current president's team? :)
 
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McCain didn't think it was important to bring up the Vietnam war in 2004 but now it is supposed to be his most important issue? WTF



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August 31, 2004
THE REPUBLICANS: THE CONVENTION IN NEW YORK -- APPLE'S ALMANAC; McCain, Trying His Best Not to Look Back
By R.W. APPLE JR.
As it does for so many who left their youth in Southeast Asia, the Vietnam War follows John McCain around. He doesn't talk endlessly about it; few veterans do. But sometimes he can't help himself.

In Mr. McCain's speech last night to the Republican National Convention, the Arizona senator concentrated on the present, not the past, paying tribute to men and women in the armed services in these somber, heartfelt terms: ''We may be good citizens, but make no mistake, they are the very best of us. It's an honor to live in a country that is so well and so bravely defended by such patriots. May God bless them, the living and the fallen, as he has blessed us with their service.''

But when we talked over a drink the night before, Mr. McCain grew agitated about the television commercials sponsored by a group of Vietnam veterans who question the war record of Senator John Kerry of Massachusetts, the Democratic presidential nominee, and specifically his entitlement to the medals that he won. He found the advertisements ''completely nauseating,'' Mr. McCain said. Mr. McCain and I have been friends since I flew from Saigon in July 1967 to report on an accident on the aircraft carrier Forrestal in the Gulf of Tonkin, in which a Zuni rocket accidentally detonated and set fire to the 400-gallon fuel tank of his A-4D Skyhawk, parked on the flight deck. More than 100 men were killed in the inferno that followed.

Afterwards, he came to stay at my house in Saigon for a week or so, and we enjoyed the bright lights of the wartime capital together. Only three months later, he was shot down and held as a prisoner of war in Hanoi for five long years.

Is this really the best we can do, Mr. McCain asked, almost 30 years after the fighting ended? Are we fated to go over this ground again and again, looking backward instead of forward? Won't we ever get over that war? He said he ''hated the way this issue is dominating the campaign,'' and I thought I detected deep frustration that he had managed to do nothing about it.

''If they question Kerry's medals,'' he said, ''they question everybody's medals. All those men who found it so hard to come home, who found so little gratitude for their sacrifices when they got here, are going to feel mistreated again. The families of the people whose names are on the monument in Washington will feel wronged, too. The painful wounds we all worked so hard to close will all be reopened.

''We've got to get that garbage off the air as soon as we can.''

Mr. McCain, who opposed George W. Bush for the Republican presidential nomination four years ago, has had a cordial relationship with Mr. Kerry for decades and has defended his war record. But lately he has been campaigning intensively with President Bush. Last week, he and Mr. Bush said they would act jointly to try to rein in all so-called 527 groups -- the unregulated committees purportedly independent of major-party campaigns -- on both sides of the partisan divide. The advertisements questioning Mr. Kerry's war record, the work of a 527 group of Swift boat veterans, were largely financed, at least initially, by rich Texas Republicans, some with past links to Mr. Bush.

But Mr. Bush has never specifically condemned the Swift boat commercial, confining himself to a mild statement that Mr. Kerry served honorably.

Mr. McCain's comments on Sunday night were so much more vehement than any I had heard him make before that I asked him whether he thought the president had acted sufficiently boldly on the issue of the commercials. Not yet, he said. In that case, would he bring the matter up again with Mr. Bush?

''Yes, I will,'' he said, ''probably this week, but not in quite the same terms. You and I were there, and he wasn't, and he's the president of the United States, and he is entitled to be treated respectfully.''

So like the Democratic convention in Boston, the Republican convention here is faced with unresolved questions about two wars, the present one in Iraq (depicted by Mr. Bush as a part of the larger struggle against terror) and the long-settled war in Vietnam. Such questions are never easy, and wars have uncomfortably cohabited with conventions through the decades -- Lincoln fretting in 1864 right up to the moment when Sherman cut the South in half that he would not be renominated, Harry S. Truman stepping aside in favor of Adlai E. Stevenson in 1952 with the nation soured on the stalemated ''police action'' in Korea, Lyndon B. Johnson renouncing his hopes for another term in 1968 even before the convention in the face of Eugene J. McCarthy's challenge.

Only Dwight D. Eisenhower, with the credibility born of his triumphs in World War II, found an easy way out of the political conundrums of war. ''I shall go to Korea,'' he announced. People took that to mean, ''I shall end the war in Korea,'' and rushed to cast their votes for him.
 
McCain is a great man who happens to have horrible ideas...and made a terrible mistake by campaigning for W.

Therefore, I cant vote for him.

And the skit is great.
 
McCain is a great man who happens to have horrible ideas...and made a terrible mistake by campaigning for W.

Therefore, I cant vote for him.

And the skit is great.

Great men don't support bills, etc. that ruin their country. Are his horrible ideas not his own? - how can you separate his ideas from, well, him, and call him a great man?

If by greatness you mean his his POW history, well, I can tell you there are many great men who have not-so-horrible ideas, and served their country equally well. I would say some of the greatest are the ones left in Vietnam that McCain fought so hard to leave there.

Supporting Bush has nothing to do with him not being considerd presidential material. Character, integrity, honesty - those make a man great. I see nothing great about John McCain.
 
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=526_1203690010

A very nervous Sen. John McCain responds to a New York Times report that suggests he may have had an improper relationship with a lobbyist.

He really seemed nervous around the Relationsship between him and the women. I think hell pull the “depends on what your definition of is, is”

Now for his Lobbyst FACTS:
According to the Center for Responsive Politics, McCain has taken nearly $1.2 million in campaign contributions from the telephone utility and telecom service industries, more than any other Senator. McCain sides with the telecom companies on retroactive immunity.

THIS FROM TIME MAG:
February 22, 2008
When parts of McCain’s defense don’t add up
Posted February 22nd, 2008 at 2:31 pm
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There have been plenty of legitimate questions raised about the reliability of the New York Times report about John McCain, his relationship with Vicki Iseman, and professional efforts McCain may have made on her behalf. The piece was thin and some of the charges weren’t exactly backed up by ample evidence.

For that matter, the McCain campaign (and its various conservative allies, including the Bush White House) have mounted a very effective and aggressive pushback, casting additional doubts on the NYT’s piece.

But it’d be a whole lot easier to dismiss the accusations out of hand if McCain’s story added up. It doesn’t.

A sworn deposition that Sen. John McCain gave in a lawsuit more than five years ago appears to contradict one part of a sweeping denial that his campaign issued this week to rebut a New York Times story about his ties to a Washington lobbyist.

On Wednesday night the Times published a story suggesting that McCain might have done legislative favors for the clients of the lobbyist, Vicki Iseman, who worked for the firm of Alcalde & Fay. One example it cited were two letters McCain wrote in late 1999 demanding that the Federal Communications Commission act on a long-stalled bid by one of Iseman’s clients, Florida-based Paxson Communications, to purchase a Pittsburgh television station.

Just hours after the Times’s story was posted, the McCain campaign issued a point-by-point response that depicted the letters as routine correspondence handled by his staff — and insisted that McCain had never even spoken with anybody from Paxson or Alcalde & Fay about the matter. “No representative of Paxson or Alcalde & Fay personally asked Senator McCain to send a letter to the FCC,” the campaign said in a statement e-mailed to reporters.

But that flat claim seems to be contradicted by an impeccable source: McCain himself. “I was contacted by Mr. Paxson on this issue,” McCain said in the Sept. 25, 2002, deposition obtained by NEWSWEEK. “He wanted their approval very bad for purposes of his business. I believe that Mr. Paxson had a legitimate complaint.”

While McCain said “I don’t recall” if he ever directly spoke to the firm’s lobbyist about the issue — an apparent reference to Iseman, though she is not named — “I’m sure I spoke to [Paxson].” McCain agreed that his letters on behalf of Paxson, a campaign contributor, could “possibly be an appearance of corruption” — even though McCain denied doing anything improper.

Oops.

The Newsweek piece also added these colorful details:

In the deposition, noted First Amendment lawyer Floyd Abrams (who was representing the lawsuit’s lead plaintiff, Kentucky Sen. Mitch McConnell) grilled McCain about the four trips he took aboard Paxson’s corporate jet to campaign events and the $20,000 in campaign contributions he had received from the company’s executives during the period the firm was pressing him to intervene with federal regulators.

Asked at one point if Paxson’s lobbyist (Abrams never mentions Iseman’s name) had accompanied him on any of the trips he took aboard the Paxson corporate jet, McCain responded, “I do not recall.” (McCain’s campaign confirmed this week that Iseman did fly on one trip returning to Washington from a campaign fund-raiser in Florida.)

On the campaign trail, McCain boasts to voters, “Everybody says that they’re against the special interests. I’m the only one the special interests don’t give any money to.” But back in the Senate, the claim looks pretty ridiculous.

But taking a step back, consider the broader McCain pushback against the NYT story. By Wednesday night, the McCain gang was absolutely in rapid response mode, knocking down the article with considerable ferocity. By Thursday morning, the senator, well prepped, gave a series of sweeping denials at a major press conference.

Far too many of the McCain claims, however, haven’t withstood even minor scrutiny. McCain hadn’t spoken to anyone at Paxson, except he had. His letters on Paxson’s behalf were considered perfectly acceptable to the FCC, except that they weren’t. The McCain campaign made no effort to squash the NYT article, except that they went to great lengths to do just that. McCain never even spoke the NYT about the piece, except that he had.

Josh Marshall added, “There’s no way of getting around the fact that McCain routinely, almost constantly, issues categorical denials that are demonstrably false. The very volume and clarity of the bogusness of so many of these statements might even be viewed as his best defense.”

And why would a presumptive presidential nominee make obviously false, easy-to-disprove claims? Because McCain doesn’t really care — he knows reporters have given him an unearned reputation as a “straight talker,” and he assumes he can more or less lie with impunity.

We’ll find out soon enough if that’s true.
 
Jack Daniels? gross

Everybody knows it's all about Kentucky Bourbon
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So far, I've been hearing that the NYT's is coming under heavy fire, because it had nothing to back up it's claim.

What? How can you think that anonymous sources that the NYT can't even give vague descriptions of are anything less than completely trustable? :rolleyes:

Yes, it's a pretty bullshit story, but it feels like something from the Clinton camp. She's going down in flames on her side over there to Obama, and her brilliant team believes it's because people see McCain as the Republican nominee and think Obama has a better chance of beating him than Clinton does. By making McCain look like a soft target, Clinton thinks she can get back in the mix with voters. I mean really, this comes out THE DAY after McCain starts taking jabs at Obama specifically as opposed to Democrats in general? Clinton's pissed that even McCain is crowning Obama the Democratic nominee.
 
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