New Rasmussen National Poll

[LibertyEsq]

He's polling at 6% in this one, but the last one released (USATODAY?) had him at 13%?

Which is actually lower than the 14% he had in the previous USA Today poll. All of the other 3 polls released after the debate have him at 5, 6, and 7%. If anything it's an indication we need to work harder if not better message our points

 

[Lovecraftian4Paul]

But the soundbites get played over and over, discussed all throughout the media until the next debate. Not to mention word of mouth from people who do watch debates

You're right. However, most of the soundbites I've seen are Perry vs. Romney vs. Bachmann. Clips of RP and Gingrich were not well circulated. It still doesn't account for the wild swings for these two candidates, in my view.

 

[jmdrake]

Try being objective.

We have one post-debate poll at 13%, one at 5%, one at 6%, and one at 7%.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/ep.../republican_presidential_nomination-1452.html

and by the way, the last time USA Today/Gallup polled Ron, we were at 14% which is in fact higher than 13%

Any poll that has Gingrich polling over Bachmann is hopelessly flawed. There's no way the poll you posted is accurate.

 

[Romulus]

There are lies, damn lies and statistics.

Example: Frank Lutz.

Lets not too worked up over one poll.... Like Lew has said, they are easily manipulated.

ONWARD

 

[jmdrake]

It has been 4 years and people are still claiming the polls are rigged because they aren't showing the results we would like to see. C'mon folks, get out of your sterile liberty bubble and get out there and talk to Republican voters!

I wouldn't say this one is "riggged", but there's no way Gingrich is beating Bachmann so I question this poll's accuracy. As for getting out and working, I have no problem with that. But that's different from the "Doom and gloom...RP killed us by talking about blowback" point of the OP.

 

[TheTexan]

Yep. It's 100% safe to say that these polls are not accurate for previously mentioned reasons. How inaccurate, it's hard to say.

But the trends they show probably are right. And the trend is we're not gaining or losing support.

Not only do we need to work harder, we need to come up with new & fresh ideas. The Big Ron Paul Sign, is a good one. More of that. The campaign also took some good initiative with their new phone from home program. It's up to us to use that VERY POWERFUL tool to its full potential.

 

[LibertyEsq]

I wouldn't say this one is "riggged", but there's no way Gingrich is beating Bachmann so I question this poll's accuracy. As for getting out and working, I have no problem with that. But that's different from the "Doom and gloom...RP killed us by talking about blowback" point of the OP.

How can you assume Gingrich isn't beating Bachmann? Bachmann's been imploding lately while Gingrich has just been having one good debate after another despite his complete inability to raise funds

 

[kylejack]

How can you assume Gingrich isn't beating Bachmann? Bachmann's been imploding lately while Gingrich has just been having one good debate after another despite his complete inability to raise funds

And the media has been assisting him with disproportional time at the debates. I think it's entirely possible he's passed her.

 

[helmuth_hubener]

can someone tell me what % of voters are over 60 in the general elections?

99%.

 

[LibertyEsq]

99%.

according to Gallup its more like 30-33%ish

http://www.gallup.com/poll/143468/likely-voters-demographically-typical-skew-conservative.aspx

 

[kylejack]

can someone tell me what % of voters are over 60 in the general elections?

23% in 2008 were 60+: http://elections.nytimes.com/2008/results/president/exit-polls.html Click Size bars to share of electorate, and it's the vertical size of the senior bar, compared to the rest. You can also click through previous years.

 

[helmuth_hubener]

Yes, I was exaggerating. Good job finding the real number. All I know is when I go to the polling place, it's nothing but fields of gray hair as far as the eye can see. Oldsters definitely vote far out of proportion to both their numbers in the general population and the quality of their political opinions.

 

[orenbus]

Yes, I was exaggerating. Good job finding the real number. All I know is when I go to the polling place, it's nothing but fields of gray hair as far as the eye can see. Oldsters definitely vote far out of proportion to both their numbers in the general population and the quality of their political opinions.

Same exp. I have when going to the polls. Also some of the polls that are being listed regarding this point is mid term elections and general elections. That's not really the issue right now, I have a feeling that the percentages of over 50 years old would be higher in Primaries and Caucuses.

 

[LibertyEsq]

Same exp. I have when going to the polls. Also some of the polls that are being listed regarding this point is mid term elections and general elections. That's not really the issue right now, I have a feeling that the percentages of over 50 years old would be higher in Primaries and Caucuses.

You are correct, especially for GOP primaries. Still, the 46-64 bloc is by far the largest, with 30-45 being about the same as 65+ and 18-29 is the smallest, from the polls ive seen

 

[hubze]

I personally think it is funny that we even pay that much attention to these obviously biased polls. I mean the media lies and mis-informs...would it really be a surprise to think that the pollsters may be part of the same organizations? I think we need to just run like there is no tomorrow and forget the polls...has anyone who has ever won been because they were high in the polls the whole time? NO! Next!

 

[Esoteric]

Keep lying to yourself, if you want to win a GOP primary you don't quote Bin Laden to support your positions

That's the problem. Ron wants to inject truth into the empire of fallacies.. which in politics, isn't how you win. in the empire of lies, 'truth is treason'.

 

[InTradePro]

Definitely fake. Romney is ahead of Perry.

We now know why Rasmussen tweeted about a surprise then pulled it for his radio program. Seems that the poll was 'tweaked' by the establishment.

 

[ForLiberty2012]

These polls have a +3-5% error. Which means Ron Paul can fluctuate between 6-13% and it is normal. It doesn't necessarily mean he's gaining or losing support.

Anyone a platinum member??? I really want to know the demographics of this survey!!!

 

[Join The Paul Side]

The only poll numbers I care about is Iowa and New Hampshire. What are his numbers there?

 

[michaelkellenger]

Definitely fake. Romney is ahead of Perry.

We now know why Rasmussen tweeted about a surprise then pulled it for his radio program. Seems that the poll was 'tweaked' by the establishment.

Where's the evidence for this? Where's the basis? Stop being ridiculous.