New Mexico Governor Takes Away Right to Carry for Public Health "Emergency"

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SANTA FE, N.M. (AP) — New Mexico Gov. Michelle Lujan Grisham on Friday issued an emergency order suspending the right to carry firearms in public across Albuquerque and the surrounding county for at least 30 days amid a spate of gun violence.
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Apparently the loophole is to call it a "public health emergency" because there's no other way to play dictator like that.

Miranda Viscoli, co-president of New Mexicans to Prevent Gun Violence, applauded the governor’s order as a courageous and necessary step to curbing gun violence, even if its legal fate is uncertain.

“If it saves one life, then it’s worth doing,” she said.
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Who cares it's against the law, all we have to do is save one life!

This is literally their stance, who cares about any freedoms, as long as one life is saved.
 
FTA: https://apnews.com/article/albuquer...2c3ad58975724d7?taid=64fbb2840fbb3c0001cb8e63

Lujan Grisham acknowledged not all law enforcement officials were on board with her decision.

“I welcome the debate and fight about how to make New Mexicans safer,” she said at a news conference, flanked by law enforcement officials, including the district attorney for the Albuquerque area.
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How about "Fuck you. No."?

That's the closest thing to any kind of "debate" you deserve.

Also FTA:

Lujan Grisham said state police would be responsible for enforcing what amount to civil violations. Albuquerque police Chief Harold Medina said he won’t enforce it, and Bernalillo County Sheriff John Allen said he’s uneasy about it because it raises too many questions about constitutional rights.
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No, it doesn't raise "too many questions about constitutional rights", you jackass.

It doesn't raise any questions at all in that regard.

It is obviously, blatantly, flagrantly, and egregiously unconstitutional. Period. Full stop.

And you damn well know it - so just say so, firmly and explicitly, instead of spouting some mealy-mouthed song-and-dance about how sympathetic and "understand[ing]" you otherwise are, despite being "wary" of the "potential" (!!) for violating peoples' rights (yes, Sheriff Allen, violating peoples' rights does indeed possess the "potential" of violating peoples' rights - JFC!). FTA:

John Allen said in a statement late Friday that he has reservations about the order but is ready to cooperate to tackle gun violence.

“While I understand and appreciate the urgency, the temporary ban challenges the foundation of our constitution, which I swore an oath to uphold,” Allen said. “I am wary of placing my deputies in positions that could lead to civil liability conflicts, as well as the potential risks posed by prohibiting law-abiding citizens from their constitutional right to self-defense.”
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The executive order / "declaration of emergemcy" (PDF file): https://www.governor.state.nm.us/wp-content/uploads/2023/09/Executive-Order-2023-130-1.pdf

The "public health" order (PDF file): https://www.governor.state.nm.us/wp-content/uploads/2023/09/090823-PHO-guns-and-drug-abuse.pdf

The official press release:

Governor announces statewide enforcement plan for gun violence, fentanyl reduction – Plan includes 30-day suspension of concealed, open carry in Albuquerque and Bernalillo County
https://www.governor.state.nm.us/20...n-carry-in-albuquerque-and-bernalillo-county/
Office of the Governor | 08 September 2023

SANTA FE – Gov. Michelle Lujan Grisham announced on Friday a new public health order that outlines immediate actions aimed at quickly reducing gun violence and illegal drug use in Albuquerque and Bernalillo County.

The recent shooting deaths of a thirteen-year-old girl on July 28, a five-year-old girl on August 14, and an eleven-year-old boy on September 6, as well as two mass shootings this year spurred the governor to declare gun violence a public health emergency on Thursday. Today’s public health order includes directives to curb the gun violence and drug abuse that the Governor has declared to be public health emergencies.

“As I said yesterday, the time for standard measures has passed,” said Gov. Michelle Lujan Grisham. “And when New Mexicans are afraid to be in crowds, to take their kids to school, to leave a baseball game – when their very right to exist is threatened by the prospect of violence at every turn – something is very wrong.”

During a substantive and earnest conversation on Friday with public safety officials including District Attorney Sam Bregman, Bernalillo County Sheriff John Allen, Albuquerque Police Chief Harold Medina, former State Police Chief Pete Kassetas, and state law enforcement leadership, the governor expanded on her plans to drastically reduce the number of violent incidents and fentanyl-related deaths in New Mexico.

The governor also on Friday signed an executive order declaring illegal drugs a public health emergency.

The action plan includes a suspension of open and concealed carry laws in Bernalillo County, temporarily prohibiting the carrying of guns on public property with certain exceptions. Exceptions include for licensed security guards and law enforcement officers. Citizens with permits to carry firearms are free to possess their weapons on private property (such as at a gun range or gun store), provided they transport the firearm in a locked box, use a trigger lock, or some other mechanism that renders the gun incapable of being fired.

The public health order also directs:

  • The Regulation and Licensing Division to conduct monthly inspections of licensed firearm dealers to ensure compliance with all sales and storage laws.
  • The Department of Health, along with the Environment Department, to begin wastewater testing for illegal substances such as fentanyl at schools.
  • The Department of Health to compile and issue a comprehensive report on gunshot victims presenting at hospitals in New Mexico, which shall include (if available): demographic data of gunshot victims, including age, gender, race, and ethnicity; data on gunshot victim’s healthcare outcomes; the brand and caliber of the firearm used; the general circumstances leading to the injury; the impact of gunshot victims on New Mexico’s healthcare system; and any other pertinent information.
  • A prohibition on firearms on state property, including state buildings and schools. This also includes other places of education where children gather, such as parks.
  • The State Police to add officers in Albuquerque with funding for overtime provided.
  • The Children, Youth and Families Department to immediately suspend the Juvenile Detention Alternative Initiative and evaluate juvenile probation protocols.
The orders signed go into effect immediately.
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Become Ungovernable

https://twitter.com/RealSpikeCohen/status/1700333356917944670
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Occam's Banana said:
Become Ungovernable

https://twitter.com/RealSpikeCohen/status/1700333356917944670
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That she openly admits (would-be) criminals are not expected to respect the order tells you everything you need to know.

This is not about "public health".

It is not about "saving just one life". [1]

It is about exercising power and control over peaceful and otherwise "law-abiding" people.

Nothing more, nothing less, and nothing else.

Does anyone doubt that this "temporary" order is not desired, hoped, and intended to become permanent?

Grisham and her gun-grabbing cronies are just testing the limits of what they can get away with.



[1] Saving "just one life" from whom? The people who are admittedly not even expected to obey the order?
 
Wow, this is a great leap forward for our oppressors.

We fucking warned you people, over twenty years ago, about the Model State Emergency Health Powers Acts, now adopted, in whole or in part by all fifty states, including NM, which grant governors plenipotentiary power to declare a "health Emergency" and decree whatever they fucking want.

If she can overturn the state law in NM and the US Constitution by Executive Order, and ban the carrying of weapons, she could have just as easily banned possession of weapons and ordered confiscations.

Is it time, YET?

Seriously...if people can't start stirring their stumps to save themselves, then fuck it...I'm out.

BariLoche here I come.
 
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Q: "You took an oath to the Constitution. Is[n't it unconstitutional to do what you are trying to do]?"

A: "With one exception - and that is if there's an emergency, and I've declared an emergency [...]"

... and "No Constitutional right [...], including my oath, is [...] absolute."

IOW: It's okay, because "ZOMG!1!! Emergency!" - and also because she took a non-absolute oath to a non-absolute Constitution.

https://twitter.com/JoshuaAtLarge/status/1700367605624651965
 
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Occam's Banana said:
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Also FTA: [[https://apnews.com/article/albuquer...2c3ad58975724d7?taid=64fbb2840fbb3c0001cb8e63]

Lujan Grisham said state police would be responsible for enforcing what amount to civil violations. Albuquerque police Chief Harold Medina said he won’t enforce it, and Bernalillo County Sheriff John Allen said he’s uneasy about it because it raises too many questions about constitutional rights.
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No, it doesn't raise "too many questions about constitutional rights", you jackass.

It doesn't raise any questions at all in that regard.

It is obviously, blatantly, flagrantly, and egregiously unconstitutional. Period. Full stop.

And you damn well know it - so just say so, firmly and explicitly, instead of spouting some mealy-mouthed song-and-dance about how sympathetic and "understand[ing]" you otherwise are, despite being "wary" of the "potential" (!!) for violating peoples' rights (yes, Sheriff Allen, violating peoples' rights does indeed possess the "potential" of violating peoples' rights - JFC!). FTA:

John Allen said in a statement late Friday that he has reservations about the order but is ready to cooperate to tackle gun violence.

“While I understand and appreciate the urgency, the temporary ban challenges the foundation of our constitution, which I swore an oath to uphold,” Allen said. “I am wary of placing my deputies in positions that could lead to civil liability conflicts, as well as the potential risks posed by prohibiting law-abiding citizens from their constitutional right to self-defense.”
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https://twitter.com/BCSONM/status/1700326536266875221
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She can issue these declarations but they are unenforceable. It's just virtue signaling.
 
69360 said:
She can issue these declarations but they are unenforceable. It's just virtue signaling.
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Jesus Christ what the hell is the matter with you?

That's what you were saying about the Jan 6 politicals before they started getting sent to prison for decades.

Why is it "not" enforceable?

New Mexico is not a constitutional carry state.

Your "permit" status comes up if a state cop runs your plates.

No problem to pull you over and toss you and your vehicle for "illegal carry".

Or, just throw up some random checkpoints and roadblocks, a daily occurrence all across the land of the free, randomly search people.

Once you throw 20 or 30 people in prison the rest will fall in line.

So are you trolling us or do you really think that shit?
 
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