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Hope you're 1,000% right! Hope there are 2 storms in Iowa: the real snowstorm and a Randstorm!!
New FOX Polls today IA/NH, Rand is UP
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Hope you're 1,000% right! Hope there are 2 storms in Iowa: the real snowstorm and a Randstorm!!
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Would FOX News dare ignore their own poll to exclude Senator Paul?
Im going to say they include the last Des Moines register which put Rand in the debate - Loras is a crackpot poll, but I guess they will include it although I have not seen Fox News use it before but Fox Business did last time out
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Self diagnosis is fraught with danger. You should probably see a specialist.
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Time to get EXCITED...
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I wouldn't put it past them.
"In order to avoid the appearance of a conflict of interest we are not including our own poll as part of the debate criteria."
Easy. Lol.
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FOX News: You know, sometimes you just gotta be fair and balanced. We are just trying to be fair to Sen. Paul and exclude our poll, as not to show a bias. Since he boycotted our last debate, he must not want us to use this poll. With that, he no longer qualifies for our debate.
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They'll probably make up some BS "tie breaker" such as New Hampshire or national polling data.
Bush is sinking in Iowa
While Rand has been steadily been going up in the polls since Dec. in Iowa, Bush has been dropping like a rock. So yes Rand will probably hit a couple more good polls before the debate, but I look for Jeb to slip farther behind in Iowa, he is not running tv ads and basically has no ground game
While Rand has been steadily been going up in the polls since Dec. in Iowa, Bush has been dropping like a rock. So yes Rand will probably hit a couple more good polls before the debate, but I look for Jeb to slip farther behind in Iowa, he is not running tv ads and basically has no ground game
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I hope everyone sees what's happening in these polls... (unfortunately, there are still many of us in here that do not.)
By asking the follow-up question to undecideds, it's pushing them into a category that may not be reality. So, basically, you begin by telling the pollster you don't know who you're going to vote for. At that point, they ask you "well, if you had to decide today..." At that point, the undecided voter will generally name the person who is getting the most news mentions. And then, the media reports the poll as if everyone who responded, was answering the same question. This is absolutely false. But hey, it's hard to sell a poll that doesn't give the media what they want.
So this is where you get your "self-fulfilling" polling. Because the more the media mentions names, the more likely the respondents will regurgitate them back to the pollster.
However, what we must be careful to recognize is that even though this is happening and it throws off the accuracy of the polls, it never stops happening. Which means it carries over right into the voting booth and the caucuses.
By asking the follow-up question to undecideds, it's pushing them into a category that may not be reality. So, basically, you begin by telling the pollster you don't know who you're going to vote for. At that point, they ask you "well, if you had to decide today..." At that point, the undecided voter will generally name the person who is getting the most news mentions. And then, the media reports the poll as if everyone who responded, was answering the same question. This is absolutely false. But hey, it's hard to sell a poll that doesn't give the media what they want.
So this is where you get your "self-fulfilling" polling. Because the more the media mentions names, the more likely the respondents will regurgitate them back to the pollster.
However, what we must be careful to recognize is that even though this is happening and it throws off the accuracy of the polls, it never stops happening. Which means it carries over right into the voting booth and the caucuses.
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The large field makes it worse, because they have to read off all those names. Sometimes this is exposed when you look at the "don't know who this is" column of the favorables.
Sometimes, the ones that ask who you will never vote for will only read the names when asked to.
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