New FOX Polls today IA/NH, Rand is UP

[01000110]

Christie and Kasich are still polling better than Rand in NH (top 5?)

Yeah.

 

[kbs021]

If no other polls are released and they don't count KBUR, we are in. Simple as that regardless if they use CBS or not. This is pretty BIG. If Rand makes that stage, I hope he is as pissed as ever.... "Thanks for actually allowing me to come tonight... Guess you guys just couldn't ignore us anymore" Then right hook Christie in his 9/11, neo-con face. Then tell Christie, that was a pre-preemptive war attack.

 

[CPUd]

If they use:
Fox
CNN/ORC
Loras
DMR/Bloomberg
ARG

Paul and Bush are tied for #5 at 4.0

 

[limequat]

If they use:
Fox
CNN/ORC
Loras
DMR/Bloomberg
ARG

Paul and Bush are tied for #5 at 4.0

Good analysis. I concur as long as they are not using KBUR (which seems uncertain).

 

[kbs021]

Yep CPU'd. Crazy, last night I was 100 percent sure on missing the debate... As of This morning we are actually in barring them being scandalous with the KBUR poll... I am sick of this poll garbage... Next go round we need to fight this system.

 

[supermario21]

Rand Paul should say look. The most recent Selzer poll has me in 5th, and your poll has me in 5th. Let me in.

 

[limequat]

I'm torn on how Rand should handle this if he's actually invited.
I think it would be cool if he could send a surrogate like Vermin Supreme.
Or during the opening statements: "Look. I got 30 minutes. If you wanna ask me something ask now before I have to do something more important."
*Then spend the remainder of the debate shooting a t-shirt cannon into the audience.
*Answer any question with why it would be better to fight 100 duck sized horses than 1 horse sized duck.
*Come out in a Karate uniform and try to physically spar with Kasich when he starts chopping his invisible fruit
*Perform a pro-bono eye surgery on stage while waiting for his next question
*Make out with Kelley any -and the duration of - time that Carson speaks

 

[CPUd]

*Shred the tax code and start throwing it around like confetti while the crowd chants "President Paul".

 

[kbs021]

LOL!

I do think he should attack the media for the debate snub. Attacking the media is never going to go bad. I mean viciously. Most of Trump and even Cruz supporters are kinda meh on fox right now.

 

[01000110]

*Wear a bullet proof vest (Donald will be there)

 

[Anti-Neocon]

It really sucks that this "Loras College" poll is making this close, when their screening methods are known to suck hard. Look at how far they are off from all reputable pollsters in the Dem primary.

 

[kbs021]

Yep Anti-Neocon, thinking the same thing. Obama out performed the polls greatly in Iowa because of groundgame and youth support... And that was while college was out of session.

 

[TheNewYorker]

Out of all the debates, this is the only important one, because this debate is in Iowa only a few days before the Iowa caucuses. If Rands not in this one, it's over for him. If he's in and knocks this debate out of the park, he could win Iowa.

This debate will be heavily televised to Iowa voters, not only on Fox, but all the local news stations, and they will also replay clips every night on the local news stations there.

 

[kbs021]

Rand getting 6 percent in an Iowa poll that (602) landlines and (199) cell-phone is a great thing. Very excited

 

[Foreigner]

So he's in for now, but it would be nice to have another poll where he is above Bush in Iowa. That way, they are not just tied, but Rand is alone in 5th place.

 

[derek4ever]

Last night, I went to bed in a bad mood. I wake up and find Rand's numbers improving!! Hopefully, Rand will continue to improve his numbers and will be on that debate stage. And then, let's pray that our men and women are able to wake up the silent giant in Iowa and that mother nature takes its course to help us have a great performance in Iowa!!! WOOOOOOOT!!!

 

[Brian4Liberty]

 

[Dianne]

You know that kills FOX to see Rand ahead of Christie, Bush and Kasich.

 

[eleganz]

Keep going Rand! Its a good time to begin the ascent, a lot can happen in the final days.

 

[Joeinmo]

Thanks. KBUR uses robo-polls for land line and then a few live interviews for cell phones. I would think that they do not qualify, because the large majority are robo-polled.

Gravis wasn't used in there when they had the option to, but Loras was.

So that means:
FOX News - Paul 6, Bush 4
CNN - Paul 2, Bush 3
*KBUR - Paul 3, Bush 7
Loras - Paul 3, Bush 6
DMR - Paul 5, Bush 4
ARG - Paul 4, Bush 3

With KBUR, ARG isn't included and you get Paul 3.8, Bush 4.8
Without KBUR, ARG is included and you get Paul 4.0, Bush 4.0

as far as I can tell Loras has not been used before. When Rand got screwed out of the debate last time, they said only well known polling organizations were excepted

From the Fox Business and GOP criteria

update - so Fox Business used the following in Iowa, but I can't see where Fox News used Loras before: the Iowa average were conducted by the following organizations: American Research Group, Quinnipiac University, FOX News, NBC News/WSJ/Marist, Loras College, and The Des Moines Register/Bloomberg. *Six were used rather than five because the earliest two polls were
the Iowa average were conducted by the following organizations: American Research Group, Quinnipiac University, FOX News, NBC News/WSJ/Marist, Loras College, and The Des Moines Register/Bloomberg. *Six were used rather than five because the earliest two polls were