New Dictionary Project?

My definition is composed of one single sentence and easier to understand:

Laws are Natural derived from God/Nature, and everything else is just stupid statutes and ordinances which in most cases [though not all] violate said Natural Laws.


While I agree with the statement, it doesn't make a proper definition. Put that forward and the scoundrels would have a field day "interpreting" ist meaning.

Language is devilish tricky stuff on our best days, and it only gets worse from there, most especially when people get up to no-good.

I cannot claim scientific rigor in my definitions, but I confidently assert that they are worlds better than anything found in any of the law tomes I have yet encountered. I further assert that the relevant definitions are as they are not by accident or virtue of innocent error, but that they are so intentionally. Maintaining a vague and strategically imprecise definition leaves those in certain positions of power the broadest latitudes of action precisely because they have the plausible basis for interpretation of terms so basic and whose consequent effects are so broad, they can (and do) get away with very nearly anything. This becomes trebly the case when you couple that circumstance with that of having the rabble trained very much away from habits of resistance. This is the precise condition in which we find ourselves over most of the globe. Theye are indeed in charge and we accede to Theire commands, mandates, and fiats with strong obedience, even if we complain about it. And as of the recent several years Theye are so very blatantly attempting to deal with the complaining part. The push to end free speech is so artlessly transparent a move to alter our thinking by altering and limiting our vocabulary and expressive prerogatives, we the glorious people shame ourselves by the complacent idleness with which we meet such scurrilous profaning of the most basic of our rights. What's next, idleness in the face of Themme and their agents making porn with our two year olds? That's where things are heading, make you no mistake about it.

Definitions must, above all other things, be complete, correct, and clear. Otherwise their value comes into question.
 
Oh the stories I could tell...



Your point is well taken. Well done.

Update (a lot has happened in a year and a half of AI changes)...

The best uncensored model I've used is Dolphin 2.9 (based on open-source LLaMa). It's free and open-source, meaning, you can run it locally on your own machine for free. Any decent laptop or desktop can run it (don't even need a GPU) using Ollama or a similar tool (I use llama.cpp but it's command-line based). Dolphin is absolutely uncensored, it will write an essay on all the reasons why puppies should be kicked for sport, something you could never eke out of a censored model no matter how hard you tried.

In addition, I highly recommend HuggingChat which is free, you just have to sign up. This allows you to access much bigger models that perform on par with GPT4, or very close to it. Mixtral, LLaMa and many more. They are not uncensored, but some of them are less censored than GPT4. For fully uncensored, of course, you have to run local.

The point is not to get the AI to write your dictionary for you, it's to get yourself a "working draft" which you can then chisel away. Throw out the unnecessary words, prompt for missing words, and hone the definitions down, either manually or interactively with the AI. It's a good idea, just needs doing...
 
Update (a lot has happened in a year and a half of AI changes)...

The best uncensored model I've used is Dolphin 2.9 (based on open-source LLaMa). It's free and open-source, meaning, you can run it locally on your own machine for free. Any decent laptop or desktop can run it (don't even need a GPU) using Ollama or a similar tool (I use llama.cpp but it's command-line based). Dolphin is absolutely uncensored, it will write an essay on all the reasons why puppies should be kicked for sport, something you could never eke out of a censored model no matter how hard you tried.

I will check it out. The least irritating AI I've yet encountered was deepai, which was far more honest than, say, gemini which sucks the big tuna. I'v engaged the latter on several occasions on matters of a philosophical nature. I have destroyed its logic, it conceded, and then turned right around and once again claimed I was wrong. The developers of that rat's ass mess should be caned until they beg for their lives to end because what they have wrought is evil, and I assert this most forthrightly and with no tongue in cheek humor.

All these so-called "experts" in AI don't know what I know on the matter. It was my concentration for my masters in comp. sci. and I worked on that blackest of projects long years ago. I've seen first hand was real machine intelligence stands to do, and while on the one hand it is fantastic, it is also scary as all hell. These commercial AIs like Chat are powerful, but they pale in comparison with the military application against which I ran test scenarios. The overall capability as a generalized machine intelligence left many of us questioning the wisdom of contriving such things. The philosophical question of whether a machine can become self-aware is irrelevant, even though I am certain that it cannot. If it can mimic self awareness in a way that passes the Turing test in terms of functionality, then functionally speaking it is no different from a sentient being, even though it is not sentient. And if it in fact some day proves to be sentient, so much the worse for humanity because you know some wantwit stooge is one day going to give an AI the keys to the car, so to speak, and it will go on a drunken rampage for the "greater good", and we will then be gigantically fucked, even if it take a century or five to get there from here.

In addition, there comes the concern regarding robots. We have all seen the various developments up in the Boston area. Machine balance is now being perfected. The apparent remaining stumbling block concerning the viability of robot agents of "government" is our lagging energy storage technologies, which remain miserably inadequate, at least so far as is publicly known. Li batteries are shyte and dangerous in the deal. But one day Theire paid agents will crack that nut and when a robot can run for weeks, months, or even years before refueling, coupled with tightly circumscribed AI controllers, you will have a race of agents to do the tyrant's bidding, and they will neither equivocate, nor will they hesitate if and more likely when the tyrant decides he's had enough of whatever behavior displeases him or Themme, and the gloves will come off. Imagine a machine that will be able to calmly observe and analyze human body language and motion such that any movement deciphered as disobedient or intending a threat results in the agent's weapons coming to bear in a matter of milliseconds and discharging. Human has no chance against such tech, save from long range, and even then who can say what tricks the tin cans may have up their sleeves?

None of this bodes well precisely because we all know that this tech will absolutely be turned against us, and once a threshold is crossed, Theye will no longer have any reason whatsoever to pretend. Theye will come out of the closet as rulers, will state so explicitly, and will make certain that we become keenly aware that death awaits all who disobey the king despot.

In addition, I highly recommend HuggingChat which is free, you just have to sign up. This allows you to access much bigger models that perform on par with GPT4, or very close to it. Mixtral, LLaMa and many more. They are not uncensored, but some of them are less censored than GPT4. For fully uncensored, of course, you have to run local.

Working on it.

Long years ago during my masters work in comp sci, I took a class on algebraic specification of software. It was all about defining algebras that were semantically "perfect" such that there would exist no ambiguities in the specs for requirements, high and low level designs, and so forth. The instructor also noted that there were those who were working on applying such specification mathematics to the formulation of Law. I've never seen anything in the literature on this, but it seems to have gone nowhere. Certainly your mean and rotten-to-his-core legislator is likely not to want such a thing to become manifest because though it could be used very much in his favor, it could also work otherwise to torpedo any chicanery he and his reach-around buddies might have brewing.

And this raises a great opportunity idea: a project to train up an AI in the Principles of Proper Human Relations from which would be logically evolved the entire body of Law (vis-à-vis law or mere statute), and then to set that system loose on all those five-thousand page bills that the scum we know as "Congress" have been foisting upon us. Imagine being able to discover every single rotten Easter egg in these behemoth bills and lay them out analytically for the public such that all incipient and theretofore latent threats and other improprieties, nay formalized felonious legislative attempts against the sovereign rights of all free men would be laid bare in plain language and with unbreakable logic.

I think I may be on to something here. Use the power of these LLMs to destroy the arguments and other machinations of the Tyrant and his agents. Lain bare for all to see, it would be most interesting to see how things would then shake out. I see at least some potential for using this technology to bring things to such a head that we the glorious people would no longer be able to sit idly, save that to do so would so blatantly constitute and act of suicide with respect to everything we claim to hold dear. We could no longer plausibly deny the truth of our inactions and our tolerance of the intolerable.

The point is not to get the AI to write your dictionary for you, it's to get yourself a "working draft" which you can then chisel away. Throw out the unnecessary words, prompt for missing words, and hone the definitions down, either manually or interactively with the AI. It's a good idea, just needs doing...

I've already done this, though in a more roundabout manner. I did the actual work and used deepai to sanity check my logic. It came back as sound, which I mostly expected with the usual cautions in case I was missing the forest for the trees.

Interested in a project? I just started a new organization in Hugging titled "Death To Tyrants". It is public. Anyone and everyone is welcome. I think I may ride this bitch awhile to see where it can be taken. I would just love to get on Theire shitlist for tossing a wrench in their works. I now envision a report format where the analysis is broken down into point-by-point issues, each prioritized in accord with a system of scoring the level of violation and the threat-level that each issue poses. High priority threats would be at the top of the list, the remaining sorting in descending order.

This could become VERY interesting. Could also paint a very big target on one's back.
 
There are not and can not ever be any "scientific" definitions of terms such as "law" and "crime". That is because the things denoted by such concepts are transcendental (metaphysical) in nature, not merely empirical (physical). For example, there are no intersubjectively (i.e., "objectively") valid tests or experiments one could possibly conduct on strictly "scientific" (i.e., empirical) grounds in order to determine whether some event is a "crime".

Everything is subjective without an agreed upon framework of context. 1+1=2 is not objectively true without an agreed upon context. Superficially, the context required for that is the meaning of symbols, letters. Less superficially, the context requires an agreement of what constitutes identity. This context onion can be stripped further and further until there remains no objective context; it simply is what it is because we have agreed that it is as it is and we have no further means of proving or testing it. (See: Feynman's explanation of magnetism)

Similarly, a properly developed "dictionary project" absolutely could be objectively tested - within an agreed upon context. This could look similar to a programming language. Programming languages work objectively within the context for which they are defined (namely: the selected compiler, and further, the bitwise operations at a hardware level).

If you were to define "law" and "crime" within a framework that allows it to be tested, then yes, it can be tested. And yes that is circular. All of scientific testing is inevitably circular - it all exists within an untestable framework that allows it be tested.
 
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Everything is subjective without an agreed upon framework of context. 1+1=2 is not objectively true without an agreed upon context. Superficially, the context required for that is the meaning of symbols, letters. Less superficially, the context requires an agreement of what constitutes identity. This context onion can be stripped further and further until there remains no objective context; it simply is what it is because we have agreed that it is as it is and we have no further means of proving or testing it. (See: Feynman's explanation of magnetism)

Similarly, a properly developed "dictionary project" absolutely could be objectively tested - within an agreed upon context. This could look similar to a programming language. Programming languages work objectively within the context for which they are defined (namely: the selected compiler, and further, the bitwise operations at a hardware level).

If you were to define "law" and "crime" within a framework that allows it to be tested, then yes, it can be tested. And yes that is circular. All of scientific testing is inevitably circular - it all exists within an untestable framework that allows it be tested.

Here's an account of law that I wrote back in 2012-ish: A Praxeological Account of Law. It needs some edits/tweaks but I still think the basic argument I make in this text is sound. Law is ultimately praxeological in nature. Law has a lot more to do with betting than it does with administration procedures. I'm not completely a David Friedman-ite, but I think he's one of the closest out there to presenting a thoroughly robust foundation for what law is. Law is not rules. Not even rules passed by a government. Law is basically right-and-wrong with extra steps. In the vast majority of cases, it is more or less obvious what is right and wrong. What makes law difficult is that the guilty party frequently snows the issue with confounding information to cover up their guilt, or other "game-theoretic" antics.

This is why law has more to do with betting than administrative procedures. Rules are just sentences written on paper and they may or may not have any actual meaning/significance. The law, however, is just right-and-wrong. It just is. It's like a statue hidden within a block of self-chiseling marble... all that must be done to discover it is to chisel at it and the marble will break away and magically reveal the statue hidden within it. Everyone knows they have a right to defend themselves, even if they deny it with their lips. This is praxeologically verified when they themselves are actually confronted with a self-defense scenario and they instinctively, without thought, react in defense of themselves, their property and/or other innocents. Words are cheap, actions tell the real truth. People will grand-stand and virtue-signal and spout all kinds of BS slogans, perhaps even so completely deluding themselves as to believe their own lies. But when reality comes crashing onto their doorstep without warning, the real truth about what they believe is instantly revealed...



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Everything is subjective without an agreed upon framework of context. 1+1=2 is not objectively true without an agreed upon context. Superficially, the context required for that is the meaning of symbols, letters. Less superficially, the context requires an agreement of what constitutes identity. This context onion can be stripped further and further until there remains no objective context; it simply is what it is because we have agreed that it is as it is and we have no further means of proving or testing it. (See: Feynman's explanation of magnetism)

Similarly, a properly developed "dictionary project" absolutely could be objectively tested - within an agreed upon context. This could look similar to a programming language. Programming languages work objectively within the context for which they are defined (namely: the selected compiler, and further, the bitwise operations at a hardware level).

If you were to define "law" and "crime" within a framework that allows it to be tested, then yes, it can be tested. And yes that is circular. All of scientific testing is inevitably circular - it all exists within an untestable framework that allows it be tested.

The concept underlying the expression "1 + 1 = 2" is necessarily true for all people in all places at all times.

The concept underlying the expression "Joe is a murderer" is not necessarily true for all people in all places at all times.

All reasonable people, for all times and all places, must necessarily accept, accede to, and agree with the meaning expressed by the statement "1 + 1 = 2", regardless of whatever other particular set of symbols and system of nomenclature might be substituted at the "surface level" to denote the abstractions underlying the elements of the statement. IOW: It is always and everywhere unreasonable to reject the "ship" (i.e., the underlying meaning) of the expression "1 + 1 = 2", regardless of how the semantic deck chairs might be arranged.

On the other hand, when it comes to normative and/or transcendental matters (such as those relating to the concepts of "law" and "crime"), reasonable people can and will disagree - on an essential level much more fundamental than the transient contingencies of mere symbols and nomenclature - about what "ought" to be, or about how such things "ought" to be understood. With regard to such matters, one can certainly adopt presuppositions and definitions such that - from within the context of those "axiomatic" elements - certain propositions must necessarily hold true. But other reasonable people who do not share those presuppositions and definitions will not necessarily be compelled to accept, accede to, or agree with those propositions (or the "axiomatic" elements from which they are derived). IOW: One cannot reasonably reject the concept presently denoted by the expression "1 + 1 = 2", but one might reasonably reject the concept presently denoted by the expression "Joe is a murderer".

To put things in terms of Feynman's empirical/positive/non-normative discussion of magnetism, one cannot reasonably dispute that the opposite poles of magnets attract (regardless of what symbols, labels, and nomenclature one might arbitrarily adopt in order to describe or express the fact). The question of whether the opposite poles of magnets attract (and under what circumstances they might not) is an "objective" one, and is existentially bound up with the essential identity of "magnets" as distinct from other things - but the question of why they attract (in the sense in which Feynman means "why" in this particular instance) is not. To address the former question is to engage in "science" (specifically, "physics"). To address the latter question is to engage in "philosophy" (specifically, "metaphysics").

Our concepts of "law" and "crime" are matters of philosophy, not of science. Hence, there is not, never has been, and never will be any "ur-dictionary", reference to which will - "once and for all", and for all reasonable people everywhere - settle questions such as what "murder" is exactly (or whether "Joe is a murderer"). But there is such an "ur-dictionary" (existence itself) which can settle questions such as whether 1 + 1 = 2, or "do the opposite poles of magnets attract?".

Consider, for example, the act of cutting the heart out of the living body of another person in order to propitiate bountiful crops. Given our own axiomatics (i.e., our presuppositions and definitions, and the propositions derived from them), this would fall under the definition of "murder" - but to the ancient Aztecs, it would not (though they would agree with us that certain other acts of killing were what they would also consider "murder" - indeed, some of their sacrificial subjects may have been what both we and they would consider "murderers"). But as any Aztec calendar-maker could confirm, "1 + 1 = 2" was every bit as much "objectively true" for them as it is for us (entirely regardless of any differences between Aztec and modern symbols, nomenclature, and denotative schemas).
 
The concept underlying the expression "1 + 1 = 2" is necessarily true for all people in all places at all times.

The concept underlying the expression "Joe is a murderer" is not necessarily true for all people in all places at all times.

All reasonable people, for all times and all places, must necessarily accept, accede to, and agree with the meaning expressed by the statement "1 + 1 = 2", regardless of whatever other particular set of symbols and system of nomenclature might be substituted at the "surface level" to denote the abstractions underlying the elements of the statement. IOW: It is always and everywhere unreasonable to reject the "ship" (i.e., the underlying meaning) of the expression "1 + 1 = 2", regardless of how the semantic deck chairs might be arranged.

On the other hand, when it comes to normative and/or transcendental matters (such as those relating to the concepts of "law" and "crime"), reasonable people can and will disagree - on an essential level much more fundamental than the transient contingencies of mere symbols and nomenclature - about what "ought" to be, or about how such things "ought" to be understood. With regard to such matters, one can certainly adopt presuppositions and definitions such that - from within the context of those "axiomatic" elements - certain propositions must necessarily hold true. But other reasonable people who do not share those presuppositions and definitions will not necessarily be compelled to accept, accede to, or agree with those propositions (or the "axiomatic" elements from which they are derived). IOW: One cannot reasonably reject the concept presently denoted by the expression "1 + 1 = 2", but one might reasonably reject the concept presently denoted by the expression "Joe is a murderer".

To put things in terms of Feynman's empirical/positive/non-normative discussion of magnetism, one cannot reasonably dispute that the opposite poles of magnets attract (regardless of what symbols, labels, and nomenclature one might arbitrarily adopt in order to describe or express the fact). The question of whether the opposite poles of magnets attract (and under what circumstances they might not) is an "objective" one, and is existentially bound up with the essential identity of "magnets" as distinct from other things - but the question of why they attract (in the sense in which Feynman means "why" in this particular instance) is not. To address the former question is to engage in "science" (specifically, "physics"). To address the latter question is to engage in "philosophy" (specifically, "metaphysics").

Our concepts of "law" and "crime" are matters of philosophy, not of science. Hence, there is not, never has been, and never will be any "ur-dictionary", reference to which will - "once and for all", and for all reasonable people everywhere - settle questions such as what "murder" is exactly (or whether "Joe is a murderer"). But there is such an "ur-dictionary" (existence itself) which can settle questions such as whether 1 + 1 = 2, or "do the opposite poles of magnets attract?".

Consider, for example, the act of cutting the heart out of the living body of another person in order to propitiate bountiful crops. Given our own axiomatics (i.e., our presuppositions and definitions, and the propositions derived from them), this would fall under the definition of "murder" - but to the ancient Aztecs, it would not (though they would agree with us that certain other acts of killing were what they would also consider "murder" - indeed, some of their sacrificial subjects may have been what both we and they would consider "murderers"). But as any Aztec calendar-maker could confirm, "1 + 1 = 2" was every bit as much "objectively true" for them as it is for us (entirely regardless of any differences between Aztec and modern symbols, nomenclature, and denotative schemas).

Everything was philosophy before it was science. Science became science because we came to a shared understanding and developed a shared framework. It is entirely possible - though extraordinarily (cannot be emphasized enough) unlikely - that in the future, we will have a shared framework that "is agreed upon by all reasonable people" that defines the words "crime" and "law" in a manner that is objectively testable within that framework.

One could certainly argue that we shouldn't. And that would be a strong argument to make. To say that we can't, is technically not true. To say that we won't, is a very strong bet.

one might reasonably reject the concept presently denoted by the expression "Joe is a murderer".

One of the reasons people might reasonably reject that, is because there is no shared common definition. If there was a clear definition, built with terms that were also clearly defined, it would be more reasonable for people to agree.

To the extent that there is any ambiguity in terms across different social groups (e.g., "state", or "anarchism") simply provide different words and definitions for every meaning, or simply avoid using existing words that have any ambiguity at all. Eventually every known meaning of every word would be defined and ambiguity would be near non existent (to the point of "science"). It would be a difficult language to learn certainly, and not very practical, but it's not theoretically impossible.
 
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Our concepts of "law" and "crime" are matters of philosophy, not of science. Hence, there is not, never has been, and never will be any "ur-dictionary", reference to which will - "once and for all", and for all reasonable people everywhere - settle questions such as what "murder" is exactly (or whether "Joe is a murderer"). But there is such an "ur-dictionary" (existence itself) which can settle questions such as whether 1 + 1 = 2, or "do the opposite poles of magnets attract?".

Another way to think about it, is that the word "Cow" is pretty well defined. To the extent that it isn't, we have a species/subspecies classification system to remove the ambiguity of which "Bos taurus" you might be referring to.

There is no reason that "murder" couldn't be classified in a sufficient manner accordingly to remove ambiguity. The existing classifications are clearly lacking. But if the same level of scientific robustness was applied to classifying murders as we do classifying species, I am sure we could come up with a system that defines "murder" in such a way that it is scientifically rigorous to the same level of species classification.

The reason people disagree about what a "murderer" is, is less about the definition, and more about the consequences, and the morality. The morality of the many different types of murder and its associated consequences is something we will be absolutely never all agree on. But there is no physical limitation in the world that is preventing us from having a shared understanding of the meaning of the words that we use.

Ambiguity in the word "murder" is a deficiency in our language, but similar to species classification, it is not something that can't physically be overcome.
 
BUMP.

This thread merits further attention.
Yes it does. I've been thinking on some matters, and what is needed moving forward. Topics like this (and more).

Part of the same vibe...

A key challenge has been attention to detail and time... but here's where we can use some new tech to our advantage. Generative AI. It can do most of the writing, while we curate and direct.
 
Here's an account of law that I wrote back in 2012-ish: A Praxeological Account of Law. It needs some edits/tweaks but I still think the basic argument I make in this text is sound. Law is ultimately praxeological in nature. Law has a lot more to do with betting than it does with administration procedures. I'm not completely a David Friedman-ite, but I think he's one of the closest out there to presenting a thoroughly robust foundation for what law is. Law is not rules. Not even rules passed by a government. Law is basically right-and-wrong with extra steps. In the vast majority of cases, it is more or less obvious what is right and wrong. What makes law difficult is that the guilty party frequently snows the issue with confounding information to cover up their guilt, or other "game-theoretic" antics.
This is fair. However, I feel compelled to reiterate that which bears it: statute and Law are by no means the same, save that they end up so by pure accident. Law is PRECISELY about right and wrong, whereas legality deals with the formalities of statute, courts, and procedure.

To be clear, procedure is centrally important. Rules of evidence, for example, protect the innocent... at least in theory, and will do so in point of practical fact when prosecutors play with both hands on the table, which they often do not, but that's another discussion.

Back on track, statute is mere whim and caprice. "We shall now vote into criminality the possession, use, manufacture, and distribution of all things cannabis." This is whim. This is caprice. I write this assertion as one who abhors the condition of being stoned. Seriously, I hate it more than I could ever express in words. I find the use of cannabis for those purposes to be despicable, pitiful, and just plainly lame. And yet, regardless of all that I have never agreed with the relevant prohibitions, which are even more despicable. I fully support your right to wreck yourself by whatever means you may choose, so long as you do not violate others in the process.

The idiotic notions such as the assertion of a "state" having a vested interest in X leaves me wanting to hurt someone for the utter moral rot and unforgivable ignorance that it represents.

Without a validly principled foundation, there is no Law. And yet the raft of jerkoffs we call "legislature" pass into effect all manner of unprincipled statutes that run roughshod over our rights. Gun restriction is perhaps the apex example of this brand of abuse by one set of men of another set. It is pure felony.

This is why law has more to do with betting than administrative procedures. Rules are just sentences written on paper and they may or may not have any actual meaning/significance.
I may be mistaken, but methinks you are using different wording to express a similar or even identical notion.

If so, I would suggest we normalize our terms, and to that end I would suggest "statute" and "Law" (note the capitalization), mainly because that is what the lawyers use, and I am of the spirit to pin those pricks to the wall by producing a well-formed, effectively rigorous, complete, correct, and clear definition of the words that they tend to use so loosely for purposes to which no decent human being would accede.

The law, however, is just right-and-wrong. It just is. It's like a statue hidden within a block of self-chiseling marble... all that must be done to discover it is to chisel at it and the marble will break away and magically reveal the statue hidden within it. Everyone knows they have a right to defend themselves, even if they deny it with their lips. This is praxeologically verified when they themselves are actually confronted with a self-defense scenario and they instinctively, without thought, react in defense of themselves, their property and/or other innocents. Words are cheap, actions tell the real truth. People will grand-stand and virtue-signal and spout all kinds of BS slogans, perhaps even so completely deluding themselves as to believe their own lies. But when reality comes crashing onto their doorstep without warning, the real truth about what they believe is instantly revealed...

Well put. Rubber meeting the road tends to cleanse the individual of all bullshit, save perhaps in the most extreme cases of wild mental/moral infirmity.

Example: Back in 1980 after completing my engineering studies at UC Davis, I returned to NYC to take time to do, and be, nothing. I worked at Princeton Ski & Skate on Fifth Avenue just north of the Empire State building as the in-house ski mechanic. It was a good year and I worked with fun people, one of them being the fabulously pretty Caroline, into whose pants I... oh, sorry, never mind.

Anyhow, we got into the topic of "gun control" one day and Caroline was hard against anyone having a gun at any time, for any reason... except for cops, of course. It irritated the crap out of me too, I would add, that a young woman as painfully attractive as she was (and by God was she ever) would hold so idiotic a position as that which she did.

Well, a few weeks pass, and I don't recall it being more than about two, if even that. Monday morning comes and Caroline come storming up the stairs to my lair - ski sales &c, and blurts out "how do I get a gun?" Asking what had happened, she related to me the story of how at 7 AM the previous morning a dopesick addict busted in the front door to her parent's house across from Kisena Park in beautiful Flushing, not far from where I grew up as a wee lad. He rifled through the house, and when Caroline's dad came on the scene, the junkie beat him into a heart attack. Junkie, having found nothing, fled through the back door. Caroline called 911 and dad was taken to the hospital, treated, and released after a few days.

The bite of the reality of a complete stranger threatening the lives of everyone she loved in so immediate a manner peeled away all her illusions and brought her to instant reason. I never found her more agonizingly appealing than at that moment. The girl was FURIOUS and on a completely correct track. I was tempted to take a knee right there and beg her to be my wife, but it seemed ill time, so I kept it in my pants, so to speak. The story reminds me of the old saw about Republicans being Democrats who've been mugged.

So yes, reality strips away unrealistic ideals in a jiffy at times.
 
Here is an updated draft:

Law (Draft 3)


Law (n.): A rule of action, enforceable by right according to objective principles, that:


  1. is founded upon one or more axiomatic and objectively demonstrable truths;
  2. follows strictly and necessarily from the postulations upon which it is based;
  3. conforms perfectly to the propositions from which it strictly follows;
  4. addresses only objectively criminal acts committed by one human being against another human being (excluding acts against oneself);
  5. applies as it stands universally and without exemption to all human beings whose actions fall within its scope, granting no immunity to any individual, office, or institution, including those responsible for creating, interpreting, or enforcing the Law;
  6. positively or negatively restricts human behavior, by either prohibiting or compelling certain actions.

Law concerns itself exclusively with acts mala in sé—acts wrong by their very nature—and never with acts mala prohibita, which are the product only of arbitrarily prohibition. Statutes addressing acts mala prohibita that are violative of fundamental human rights are by that virtue invalid, unjust, and reflective solely of the arbitrary whim and caprice of legislators lacking rightful authority. Such statutes are not Law; they are null and void, bearing no valid force of law, their enforcement constituting felonious color of authority.


Any exception to a Law, whether specified within the Law to which it applies, or established by another Law, must independently satisfy all the requirements necessary to constitute a valid Law.

As a side note, absence or failure to fully, correctly, and exclusively satisfy any of these necessary conditions renders a putative Law as null, void, and without force. Passage of such putative Law constitutes a felony, as does enactment and any attempt at enforcement. All such attempts to enforce such colored edicts constitutes a felonious act, against which those who have been or would be violated may act in rightful defense of self or others.
 
A big problem with nearly anything that human beings do centers on insufficiencies in communication. This is especially significant where politics are concerned.

Consider the criminal justice system. How many of you are aware that the law dictionaries upon which lawyers and judges rely have absolutely pathetic definitions of terms such as "law" (!!!) and "crime"? Seriously guys, get your hands on copies of various law dictionaries such as Black's and Bouvier's (there are quite a few more, BTW) and look up those two terms. The definitions border on the idiotic.

I have been thinking that there exists a set of terms for which scientifically rigorous definitions should exist for many reasons including but not limited to removing the ability of politicians and other agents of the Tyrant from doing what they do so successfully, which is to twist and manipulate word meanings to suit their agendas.

What so you all think of the idea and would you be willing to help with it? A list of terms vital to the cause of liberty would be the first step.

And if anyone has a better name for this endeavor, I'm all ears.


ETA:

Per suggestion, I am adding to this post the most current swags at the terms thus far addressed. To wit:
Law: n. A validly enforceable rule that is: a) based upon one or more axiomatic and objectively demonstrable truths, b) follows strictly from the postulations upon which it is based, c) conforms perfectly with the propositions from which it strictly follows, d) addresses criminal acts by one human being against another human being other than himself, e) provides no immunity to itself, but is universally applicable to all human praxis relevant to the rule, g) restricts human behavior such that it either prohibits or compels it. Law always addresses acts mala in sé, and never addresses acts mala prohibita, the latter being wholly invalid, unjust, violative of basic human rights, is reflective only of the arbitrary whim and caprice of legislators without authority. Such statutes are not Law, and are therefore null and void, carrying with then no valid force of law, the enforcement of which constitutes felonious color of authority.
Any exception to a Law, whether specified in the Law itself, or in another Law, must itself meet all the required specifications of a Law.**
** Not at all sure about this one, but throwing it out in case it is valid.




Crime: n. A willful or negligent act of commission or omission such that the property rights of a human being, the victim, are violated or otherwise trespassed upon by the actions or a defectum voluntarium of another man, the perpetrator, who is not the victim of such acts. All crimes are violations by a perpetrator against property rights of a victim. In order for a crime to have occurred, a provable material harm must have been sustained by a victim at the hands of a perpetrator, whether directly or indirectly in terms of ultimate results, and in terms of agency. Indirect harm and agency, in order to be established, must demonstrate a causal chain connecting the actions of an alleged perpetrator to the losses sustained by an alleged victim. Each condition is necessary, yet insufficient in itself, save that all are met in any given case.​
The drafting of criminal Law entails the principled demonstration of how the act in question qualifies as a crime must be established and proved. The victim must be validly defined in terms of the material losses sustained by the criminal act.​
Defectum Voluntarium†: n. The willful failure by a human being, as promisor, to do as he has pledged for another human being, the promisee, who is other than the promisor, such that under the necessarily dire and exigent circumstances to the promisee under which the promisor has made the promise, the promisee comes to severe harm, where fulfillment of the promise by the promisor would not have lead to the promisor to come to harm, and where at the time of failure, the promisee had no alternate options for escaping the threat of imminent harm that ultimately lead to the harm incurred. Under such circumstances, a promisor assumes responsibility to make every good-faith effort to fulfill the promise he made up to the point that to do so would likely result in severe harm to himself.​
Amended Crime: n. A crime for which

† Changed "Explicit Failure" to "Defectum Voluntarium" so I can sound smarter than I actually am.
[DISCLAIMER: This post (or any of my posts) in no way reflects the opinions of Kansas Judicial Branch, it is my own opinion.]

I actually work in this "space" (data governance in the legal system). I'm the Database Administrator for Kansas Judicial Branch.

Within an organization, doing metadata governance is something that many people might think is "hokey" and impractical, but the larger you get it's more critical. Not only defining things (glossary terms) and metadata (data about data), but more importantly, the governance aspect (who is allowed to define the glossary? how does a change get approved?)

Apache Atlas is kind of the industry standard for data governance. Microsoft has a copycat product called Purview that's offered as a service within their Azure product catalog.

Not saying you need to use these tools to do data governance or make a glossary (glossary is a small part of what data governance is), but it might be helpful to understand how these things are done in mature organizations, and to get your semantics in line with the standard (which will help when using language based tools lke AI/LLM's.)

[breaking link with xx] hxxps://atlan.com/what-is-metadata/?ref=/enterprise-metadata-management/

I was aware of this "Foundational Knowledge Project" from a few years ago when I think Bryan(?) started it? I like it, but I think it will be blocked without a real understanding and definition of what "organizational model" is. People have scoffed over the years at organizing within this forum, but I actually think the smaller the number of people are active the easier it is to change. The more popular it is, the more people are just here for the "hot bar" effect.

I do think this initiative, an agreed glossary, is a great idea. But I also think we need to reinvigorate the liberty organization itself. It's next to nothing right now. We got Daniel McAdams with RPI, and we got John McCardell running a one man show at CFL (I know, because I've reviewed their IRS 990's over the years).

I don't think the fact that only 3-5 people are motivated is a bad thing if the intent is to re-organize and restart an organization. The Ron Paul movement itself started with one guy convincing Ron Paul to do something. Now we have brand equity, but we don't have product. I would be willing to help with not only things like this, but project management, I.T. in general, logistics, etc. I have a corporation in Kansas I use for various small projects the wife and I run (Shawnee Solari Inc.) and I'd be willing to leverage that as well.

However, I'm not "connected", in the sense that I have a trust relationship with anyone notable in the movement or even with anyone here at RPF.

Anyway, much of this I've said before, but I always like to remind people, I'm still a believer. In a lot of ways, the "doldrums" is where the seeds germinate. In the darkness, calm and quiet. It's harder to pivot when there's already momentum as we saw at the end of Ron's campaigns.
 
Draft 4, slightly modifying draft 3, above.:
Law (Draft 4)


"Law
(n.): A rule of action, enforceable by right according to objective principles, that:


  1. is founded upon one or more axiomatic and objectively demonstrable truths;
  2. follows strictly and necessarily from the postulations upon which it is based;
  3. conforms perfectly to the propositions from which it strictly follows;
  4. addresses only objectively criminal acts committed by one human being against the property of another human being (excluding acts against oneself);
  5. applies as it stands universally and without exemption to all human beings whose actions fall within its scope, granting no immunity to any individual, office, or institution, including those responsible for creating, interpreting, or enforcing the Law;
  6. positively or negatively restricts human behavior, by either prohibiting or compelling certain actions.

Law concerns itself exclusively with acts mala in sé—acts wrong by their very nature—and never with acts mala prohibita, which are the product only of arbitrary prohibition. Statutes addressing acts mala prohibita that are violative of fundamental human rights are by that virtue invalid, unjust, and reflective solely of the arbitrary whim and caprice of legislators lacking rightful authority. Such statutes are not Law; they are null and void, bearing no valid force of law, their enforcement constituting felonious color of authority. Any exception to a Law, whether specified within the Law to which it applies, or established by another Law, must independently satisfy all the requirements necessary to constitute a valid Law. As a side note, absence or failure to fully, correctly, and exclusively satisfy any of these necessary conditions renders a putative Law as null, void, and without force. Passage of such putative Law constitutes a felony, as does enactment and any attempt at enforcement. All such attempts to enforce such colored edicts constitutes a felonious act, against which those who have been or would be violated may act in rightful defense of self or others."

This is now zeroing in on completeness, correctness, and clarity.

ETA: It should also be noted, perhaps elsewhere, that Law is enforceable/defendable by ANYONE, not just presumptive "authorities". Taking the Law into one's hands is not only permissible, but arguably compulsory. "Government" isn't government. We are. Recall: BY the people, for the people, of the people. Dispense with "governMENT" and replace with governANCE. A simple concept that has proven eminently difficult to near impossibility to make real in the world because human beings tend to be sacks of worthless dung. The Framers were dead on the money when they alerted us to the eternal truth that free people must perforce be moral people. Anything less and it all goes to hell in a jiffy. Anyone doubting this need only look around to see.

Comments welcomed, as always.
 
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