New Congresswoman: "Taxation Is Theft"

[Badnon Wissenshaftler]

Let me get this straight. You quote Ron Paul for the idea of tariffs being bad but you support a tax for just being alive and making over the poverty level? That...that's your argument? A capitation tax is still an income tax. Ron Paul on user fees and tariffs versus the income tax.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6bAVJ6ZdnI

That doesn't stop international merchants from pushing for war. It's not just the short term gains that some definitely make. It's the long term gains. The banana wars profited Dole long after the war was over.

The founders would have never gone for your capitation scheme. The did agree with tariffs. But also GovFundMe couldn't exist in 1776 because there was no internet.

The only acceptable income tax is zero. I agree with Ron Paul. User fees and tariffs can take care of the level of spending that's required for the type of government you say you want. A capitation tax would be tyranny.

Wheee! I actually don't disagree greatly with a lot you've been saying throughout this thread, but I have some things to address. I'm a very busy man today, so it might be tomorrow before I get there.

Briefly, regarding being taxed for being alive: I don't care for taxes at all! And I generally agree with the quote in the title of this thread. Just looking for the best method for the collection of such revenue while it is a necessary evil.

See ya soon! ;D

PS: The Doc looked so lively in that video! Not too many years ago. Maybe just the euphoria and adrenaline of a freedom rally?

 

[jmdrake]

1. Tariffs and import quotas usually reduce general economic welfare. (93%) http://gregmankiw.blogspot.com/2009/02/news-flash-economists-agree.html

Hey nice list. That's a good find.

From your "list that can't be questioned."

Fiscal policy (e.g., tax cut and/or government expenditure increase) has a significant stimulative impact on a less than fully employed economy. (90%)

LOL Keynesian economics FTW? But this is what we end up with. Increased spending. Increased deficits. Increased regulation. The "inflation tax." Taxes ultimately get increased anyway cause...reasons. Choking of the internal economy. Increased globalism. Less freedom.

 

[Badnon Wissenshaftler]

Aren't those the only constitutional taxes, excise and tariffs?

Just FYI.

"No capitation, or other direct, Tax shall be laid, unless in Proportion to the Census or Enumeration herein before directed to be taken." United States Constitution, Article 1, § 9, cl. 4

 

[Sonny Tufts]

Just FYI.

"No capitation, or other direct, Tax shall be laid, unless in Proportion to the Census or Enumeration herein before directed to be taken." United States Constitution, Article 1, § 9, cl. 4

See also I.8.1: The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States

 

[Badnon Wissenshaftler]

Might I invite everyone to continue discussion regarding taxation on a thread I began a while back?

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?549684-On-Taxation-and-a-Workable-Strategy

 

[danda]

From your "list that can't be questioned."

Fiscal policy (e.g., tax cut and/or government expenditure increase) has a significant stimulative impact on a less than fully employed economy. (90%)

LOL Keynesian economics FTW? But this is what we end up with. Increased spending. Increased deficits. Increased regulation. The "inflation tax." Taxes ultimately get increased anyway cause...reasons. Choking of the internal economy. Increased globalism. Less freedom.

I hear that a hit of cocaine has a significant stimulative impact on a cocaine addict. Few would debate that, but likewise few would advocate continuing such a course indefinitely.

Likewise, I believe that even Austrians economists will not debate that government spending can stimulate the economy... increase the velocity of money, etc. They simply believe that, in addition to being immoral, it sows the seeds of further problems down the road,

In both cases, the only healthy answer is to stop taking the drug. Hopefully in such a manner as to avoid severe withdrawal issues.

 

[dannno]

Amash is done right?

That sucks.

I think she would have signed onto team Rand, Massie and Amash.

Although I bet you she'll fail the foreign empire test.

Nah, Q talks about never ending wars and the MIC all the time.