New Barr Press Release: Calls us a Cult of Personality!

If there was a Ron Paul Personality Cult I would definitely join. RP's personality is pretty awesome!
 
Barr was never a liberal, therefore he is not a "neocon." "Neo" means "new," and genuine neoconservatives are pro-war liberals like Feith, Podhoretz, Kristol, Kirkpatrick, etc., who were Democrats (most of the aforementioned worked for either LBJ or Scoop Jackson) and became Republicans when the Dems nominated McGovern.

"Neocon" has become as meaningless an epithet as "liberal" or "cut and run." We, who are supposed to be more politically literate, should choose the correct words lest we be misinterpreted (i.e. if you can differentiate between "isolationist" and "non-interventionist" you should be able to properly define "neoconservative" as well.)

neocon now has taken on a life of its own and is very fitting for bob barr.
 
The neocons tried to get Alan Keyes nominated in the Constitution Party. Kristol was Keyes' roommate in college and ran Alan Keyes senate run in 1988. The Constitution Party was smarter than the Libertarian Party.

why assign human traits to non human entities?

A party is just a collective of individuals.

The Libertarian Party nominated Barr thanks in larger part to Ron Paul talking Bob Barr up. Same with Baldwin and the Constitution Party.
 
:rolleyes: x 50, your the one crusading against a third party candidate, for nary a coherent reason, on an internet forum. You repeatedly use emotionally based rhetoric (talking points w/o any logical substance), and now your calling me a chimp.

Get a grip, go outside and get some fresh air.

When people don't know how to debate they resort to name calling.
 
Wow...

Barr backs out of a Conference he already RSVP'ed for, just to hold his own like a stubborn Prima Donna, and RON PAUL is the conceited one?!?!?!

Nuts to you, Bo-Bo.
 
Because he's the only one who is honestly worth voting for.

Barr is a neocon shill, and the libertarian party is a joke now.

The green party and Nader are too left leaning economically for me to seriously consider.

The Constitution Party is too theocratic to honestly adhere to States' Rights.

So, who else then?

Huckabee? You've got to be kidding. Staying in Iraq to save face. jeesh:rolleyes:
 
The Libertarian Party nominated Barr thanks in larger part to Ron Paul talking Bob Barr up. Same with Baldwin and the Constitution Party.

I don't know if that's true or not (the first part), but I've certainly learned to take RP's endorsements with a grain of salt. He's just got terrible judgment in people.
 
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Barr, you've got some bad advice dude. You'd have been the biggest beneficiary of that conference, if you would have showed instead of pulling a publicity stunt.

duppy

I'm the, duppy CONQUEROR, CONQUEROR RON PAUL IS yes my friend
 
Oh yeah, I left out one of the best parts at the top of his new press release:
In times of crisis, strength in leadership requires boldness of character, clear direction and firm resolve. As we witnessed after the attacks of September 11th, President George W. Bush showed incredible leadership as he stood atop a fire truck amidst the rubble of the twin towers to rally America.


What's this jackass thinking?? "Incredible leadership" is yelling about terrorists in a pile of rubble while you send the real heroes (rescue workers and cleaners) to die in the poison air and dust the next day? Sick!

Yes, he pulled a roundhouse on RP, but this is the most offensive, most telling, and most disturbing part of the press release.
he is a monster.
It seems the last clutches of the BB supporters here are trying to tell us that BB doesn't agree with any of this stuff his campaign blog spot publishes. I hope they will see the light some day.
 
I will start this off by saying that this whole thing that has transpired over the past week has had me well baffeled to say the least. First off this was no major announcement, and in my personal opinion after dealing with the campaign since last july is that Benton has got to go. He always seems to do more harm than good to this campaign.

I agree with what Ron's announcment was trying to do. Get the minor Parties to agree on a certain platform and let the public know that there are other choices out there that are available to them. I have been very leary of Bob Barr even though I have heard that he is friends with Ron and basically it was Ron's good word that got him the nod for the LP ticket. But due to Barr's past voting records I have been very hesitant to back him.

So after a couple of days of stewing what could this major announcement be, I mean they are even calling in the MSM for this I waited like a kid on x-mas eve. So when the announcement came and that Barr didn't show although previously commiting to doing so I was like what is up with that?

So now today after seeing the annnouncement by Barr's campaign Manager? I am, assumiong here because I am not really sure of Verneys role I am like what the sam hill happened.

First of all I did not see this announcement in any way major, nor did i see it really anything about Paul, so from both sides of the fence I saw some weird things. Next thing I hear is that Barr is scheduling a news conference about an hour or more after Paul's. I then hear there was some war of word going on from both sides of the campaign's camps, then I hear news of Barr's invitation to Paul to join him on his v.p ticket.

Ok, so by now I am thinking I just entered the Twighlight Zone and now I am even more confused. So if anyone could help enlighten me with just the facts and not personal opinions I would appreciate it.

1. Why if Barr had allready agreed to be at theis press conference would he no show? I heard Verneys explanation but it just did not even make any sense to me.


2. Why was this taughted as a major announcement? There reallly was not anything major about it.

3. Why if Bob and Ron are friends wouldn't they just release their own take on this and if it was misscommunication that just be told?

4. Why would Bob feel the need to replace his V.P. with Paul? My only ideas could be the money support and the rise in the polls for the debates?

5. Why if Paul is trying to change the GOP from within would he hold a major press announcement to let people know that they should support 3rd party candidates and include all of these candidates in person to do this?

6. Why if Paul says we will not be able to change the things that need to be changed with the two party system we have in place now would he turn down the offer ofa third party run with Barr? Or even bettter why didn't he decide on running on an independent ticket monthes ago when he could have gotten ballot access?

I mean so he loses his congressional seat in 30 years what major changes has he been able to make as a congressmen?

I love Ron Paul, I love Ron's message, I love Ron's stances on the way we should run our government, but I hate hi campaign staf to me they are inept at best, and 85% percent of the time I do not even think Ron if given the chance would even want trhe job as President or Vice President. Which inuriates me because I have worked my ass off for this campaign and have spent money I probably should have to help promote this message because even with ton's of cash the inept campaign staff couldn't help me out. I do not know but I went from apathetic to very inspired to becoming very apathetic all over again.
 
Good post. I agree with it. I figure the neo con s have invaded both camps...I bet Ron Paul doesn't know 85% of what those jokers are doing that are running his campaigns..I bet he didn't know those clowns were advertising that Bob Barr was dropping out. They flat out lied to get media attention and if Ron Paul doesn't nip this in the bud right now...it will be just like those newsletters that he failed to oversee. It will cause him great damage. Tones
 
I will start this off by saying that this whole thing that has transpired over the past week has had me well baffeled to say the least. First off this was no major announcement, and in my personal opinion after dealing with the campaign since last july is that Benton has got to go. He always seems to do more harm than good to this campaign.

I agree with what Ron's announcment was trying to do. Get the minor Parties to agree on a certain platform and let the public know that there are other choices out there that are available to them. I have been very leary of Bob Barr even though I have heard that he is friends with Ron and basically it was Ron's good word that got him the nod for the LP ticket. But due to Barr's past voting records I have been very hesitant to back him.

My feeling that Barr's betrayal is what downgraded the press announcement. I think it would have entailed a lot more than what transpired and that Barr messed up a lot more than just missing it. Possibly more of a fusion would have been or was set up to be with his participation. Maybe that's why Ron got so mad at him!
 
I will start this off by saying that this whole thing that has transpired over the past week has had me well baffeled to say the least. First off this was no major announcement, and in my personal opinion after dealing with the campaign since last july is that Benton has got to go. He always seems to do more harm than good to this campaign.

Go with your feelings. It seems that no matter which character we go with, the effect is the same - to divide our movement to the four winds in different political parties, or to strangle it in a can't do party.

None of it leds to what the political establishment is really worried about - A take-over of the Republican party in a non-election year.

Hold onto your political will. Believe those feelings about what is getting in the way of it.
 
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