New Barr Press Release: Calls us a Cult of Personality!

I disagree...Ron Paul's pac has been neo conned. I will not participate. The Libertarian Party has also been neo conned. I will not participate. No one is safe from these barstards. Take the blinders off people...all of it has been corrupted. Tones
 
If the Chip-in doesn't help, a Money Bomb could buy Barr one of these:

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In the past I considered possibly 'holding my nose' and voting for Barr because I refuse to vote McBama but now no way I am voting Barr.
 
You lost my vote, Bob. You could have easily salvaged it by admitting you were wrong to shun Dr. Paul and apologizing to your supporters.

You are STILL attacking him. Saying the press conference was about “one man.” It’s insulting to those of us that admire Dr. Paul a great deal. The issue here seems to be that you percieve that the conference was all about Ron Paul…. so you being all about Bob Barr (and not about the historic moment that this could have been, a grand coalition of third parties), you decided to boycott instead of attending.

Even if you were right about the event, what harm could have come to you for going? Do you really think Ron Paul supporters who would have considered voting for you would EVER vote for McKinney? Until yesterday, I thought I would never consider voting for Nader. But your antics in the past 24 hours have solidified another vote for Nader in my state.

Face the facts, you really blew it with this one, and no amount of spin is going to convince anyone who has respected and supported Ron Paul over the years that he has, overnight, turned into the egomaniac that people have claimed you embody (and perhaps, it seems, rightfully so). This election is about LIBERTY. It’s about the things Americans have in common that the two major parties ignore. This election is about returning our country to the people and giving us back our essential liberties. This election is NOT about Bob Barr. If you can realize that and apologize, I’ll reconsider giving you my vote. If you continue in these childish antics, me and a lot of my fellow libertarians (and Libertarians) are going to take their support elsewhere.

Also, it seems that a great number of the posts on the Bob Barr for President official blog are extremely pro-Barr and anti-Paul. A sharp turn from the posts yesterday. Yesterday they stopped people from posting, and today it seems they might be deleting posts that they don’t agree with. I hope that’s not true, because censorship by a Libertarian candidate would be just about the worst thing (s)he could possibly do.

Is the Libertarian Party really this stupid? Are they so completely stubborn and out of touch that they're willing to turn their backs on the standard bearer of the libertarian movement in this country just because he isn't officially backing their candidate? I believe in the Party and the movement, and I think these sorts of blustering antics are going to do more to harm us than anything any opponent could offer. Unless the Libertarian Party moves away from these disgusting attacks on Ron Paul and the stubborn "with-us-or-against-us" mentality that I only thought Obama fanatics and Republican neocons has mastered, I'm going to leave the Party. Where I'll go, I don't know... but as they say... anywhere is better than here.

I'm from Virginia and I respect Bill Redpath a great deal, I'd be really interested to hear his thoughts on all of this. He doesn't seem to be the bitter egomaniac that have hijacked our Party from us.
 
Umm, ok.

I have no idea if Barr has been given the cold shoulder by Paul's people.

Both campaigns are/were amateurishly run.

Paul is definately a very good man, but I now have severe doubts about Barr's goodness.

I have no love for Benton, haven't seen him being praised by anybody, and think it's all his fault for calling yesterday's announcement "major" in the first place. He seems to be best at creating clusterfucks.

Thank you. Rationality and history seems to suggest it was a miscommunication between campaigns and interest rather than an issue between Bob and Ron, which some people are inferring and is certainly not the case.
 
1. I'm voting for the party, not the man, and the party that represents me is the LP. Since no third party candidate will win, the candidates themselves don't personally matter.
2. What a load of drama. For supposedly being tough, independent-thinking libertarians, some of you are quite sensitive and reactionary.
 
Those so called Rumors

We were the ones speculating on what the "big announcement" was going to be not the CFL. We were just daydreaming, no more, no less. Anyone who thinks they were rumors is grasping at the proverbial staw.
 
IMO, "we" have been infiltrated by a few people (in/from all camps) interested in sabotaging the liberty effort, possibly including BB himself.

I do not trust him at all, but so what? He's not going to be elected POTUS.

This controversy not going to stop me from voting for him. There's a good chance that the LP can take enough vote % to gain EZ ballot access in 2010*.

THEREFORE, I will still need to 'hold my nose and vote for Barr'.
I'll put TWO clothes clips on my nose, just in case the first one falls off.


*Now would be a good time to start educating LP candidates and membership so that careful nominations (looking for principle) so that a cautious LP convention election process can take place in 2010 and 2012.
 
You lost my vote, Bob. You could have easily salvaged it by admitting you were wrong to shun Dr. Paul and apologizing to your supporters.

You are STILL attacking him. Saying the press conference was about “one man.” It’s insulting to those of us that admire Dr. Paul a great deal. The issue here seems to be that you percieve that the conference was all about Ron Paul…. so you being all about Bob Barr (and not about the historic moment that this could have been, a grand coalition of third parties), you decided to boycott instead of attending.

Even if you were right about the event, what harm could have come to you for going? Do you really think Ron Paul supporters who would have considered voting for you would EVER vote for McKinney? Until yesterday, I thought I would never consider voting for Nader. But your antics in the past 24 hours have solidified another vote for Nader in my state.

Face the facts, you really blew it with this one, and no amount of spin is going to convince anyone who has respected and supported Ron Paul over the years that he has, overnight, turned into the egomaniac that people have claimed you embody (and perhaps, it seems, rightfully so). This election is about LIBERTY. It’s about the things Americans have in common that the two major parties ignore. This election is about returning our country to the people and giving us back our essential liberties. This election is NOT about Bob Barr. If you can realize that and apologize, I’ll reconsider giving you my vote. If you continue in these childish antics, me and a lot of my fellow libertarians (and Libertarians) are going to take their support elsewhere.

Also, it seems that a great number of the posts on the Bob Barr for President official blog are extremely pro-Barr and anti-Paul. A sharp turn from the posts yesterday. Yesterday they stopped people from posting, and today it seems they might be deleting posts that they don’t agree with. I hope that’s not true, because censorship by a Libertarian candidate would be just about the worst thing (s)he could possibly do.

Is the Libertarian Party really this stupid? Are they so completely stubborn and out of touch that they're willing to turn their backs on the standard bearer of the libertarian movement in this country just because he isn't officially backing their candidate? I believe in the Party and the movement, and I think these sorts of blustering antics are going to do more to harm us than anything any opponent could offer. Unless the Libertarian Party moves away from these disgusting attacks on Ron Paul and the stubborn "with-us-or-against-us" mentality that I only thought Obama fanatics and Republican neocons has mastered, I'm going to leave the Party. Where I'll go, I don't know... but as they say... anywhere is better than here.

I'm from Virginia and I respect Bill Redpath a great deal, I'd be really interested to hear his thoughts on all of this. He doesn't seem to be the bitter egomaniac that have hijacked our Party from us.

Kudos..Well said..
 
rips the guitar , cult of personality and starts bopping around, this is almost comical if it were not real!!!! bob barr basically attacking the mother teresa of the republican party....and it's followers, who are the exact same folks that were supporting barr, well not anymore!
 
I think many of you are part of this "Cult of Personality" and are in denial. What he's stating here is, Ron Paul is your "ONLY" guy. That you'll only vote for him, even though Ron Paul said it was about the movement, not him. That's all the statement was about. Don't take it personally unless the shoe fits. If you truly feel that Ron is your only guy, then say so, and accept that people will criticize you.


FF

Uhhh...bull shoosh. Many of us here are going in different directions because our top choice ain't gonna be there. What was happening was a banter of McCain or Obama because third parties don't matter, the media said so. Gosh...clue in. The game is rigged. All you had to do was be a delegate to see it up close and personnal. It ain't gonna change until we start from the ground up and change those who are making the rules.

Bob Barr is an elitest jerk. He has always had a my way or the highway attitude. He will tell us which religion to support, who can marry, and when and what drugs we can use medical or otherwise. Just because the libertarians got snowed does not mean he is now a liberty seeker. What life altering experience made Bobby Barr change his opinion on all these issues along with the patriot act and the war in Iraq??? How much are we supposed to believe a person changes in this short a period?????

Now unless we are supporting the libertarian aka BOB BARR party we aren't freedom lovers but socialists or theocrats?? He is the snob who could not demean himself to acknowledge other views exist except those that he holds(ala I won't be seen on the stage with THEM.) As if they have cooties or something. So we are supposed to trust that he will be for giving our freedoms back? Umm maybe he should start by understanding we aren't following Paul because of his personality but because he embraces RESPECT for others and his policys allows room for disent. Hard to do when you are too good to share the stage with others.
 
1. I'm voting for the party, not the man, and the party that represents me is the LP. Since no third party candidate will win, the candidates themselves don't personally matter.
2. What a load of drama. For supposedly being tough, independent-thinking libertarians, some of you are quite sensitive and reactionary.

amen man.
 
We were the ones speculating on what the "big announcement" was going to be not the CFL. We were just daydreaming, no more, no less. Anyone who thinks they were rumors is grasping at the proverbial staw.

Apparently those "rumors" were a couple of comments left on some Reason blog post, which is a hangout for Ron Paul hating, "inside-the-beltway" (sellout) cosmotarians.
 
There was a lot of hurtful insulting remarks on hear that were childish attacking Barr. To the inmature people who post stupid shit think before you post something. You can divide this movment as well. I don't agree with Barr on his decision yesterday but I didn't get rude over it.

Maybe you better reread the above. Might wanna run the ole spell check while you're at it.
 
I think many of you are part of this "Cult of Personality" and are in denial. What he's stating here is, Ron Paul is your "ONLY" guy. That you'll only vote for him, even though Ron Paul said it was about the movement, not him. That's all the statement was about. Don't take it personally unless the shoe fits. If you truly feel that Ron is your only guy, then say so, and accept that people will criticize you.


FF

Because he's the only one who is honestly worth voting for.

Barr is a neocon shill, and the libertarian party is a joke now.

The green party and Nader are too left leaning economically for me to seriously consider.

The Constitution Party is too theocratic to honestly adhere to States' Rights.

So, who else then?
 
Because he's the only one who is honestly worth voting for.

Barr is a neocon shill, and the libertarian party is a joke now.

The green party and Nader are too left leaning economically for me to seriously consider.

The Constitution Party is too theocratic to honestly adhere to States' Rights.

So, who else then?

If you live in Montana or Louisiana you can vote Ron Paul. :)
 
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