Nevada Caucus Result Numbers DO NOT MATTER - Here is Why

[DamianTV]

The numbers in this part of the Election Process DO NOT MATTER.

Here is why. Delegates do not indicate which candidate they intend to vote for until later in the Election Cycle. In Nevada, ONLY THE FIRST ROUND IS BINDING. Thus, come Super Tuesday, the Super Delegates get to vote for whoever they want. Unlike Florida's 'Winner Take All', we have decided that we need the Delegates to be able to choose for themselves. Those who voluneered to be Delegates, such as myself, may not make it all the way. Every precint can nominate a certain number of Delegates, thus, we currently have MORE Delegates than will continue on to the Final Round, the Super Delegates, and NO ONE KNOWS WHO THEY WILL BE YET, thus WHO THE DELEGATES WILL VOTE FOR.

This means that even if we get our asses handed to us, we can still come out in first place and win by a landslide IF we play our cards correctly. In order to do that, we must continue to be involved in every stage of the Election Process and do everything we can to be the Nominated Delegates, even if that means HIDING the fact that we intend to vote for Ron Paul from others in order to secure the support from other people.

DO NOT LET THE NUMBERS FOOL YOU. The media is throwing around numbers and acting like those numbers are the final vote tally. They are not. They mean as much as an Informal Survey. The Delegates is where it is at, and where WE WILL BE. We will win because we do not give up. We do not Flip Flop. We do not half ass it.

Right now, the total number of Delegates that volunteered far outnumbers the total number of Super Delegates we can have for the state. Thus, we could have 100% Huntsman Delegates, if all of the Delegates that continue on to be Super Delegates are Huntsman Delegates. Or Mittens. Or more importantly 100% Ron Paul. All of the rest of the people in my precint had chosen a different candidate. I was the only Ron Paul supporter. However, absolutely none of them volunteered to be a Delegate. Thus, they were not willing to put forth the effort to make their vote count. The numbers that will come out of this will reflect something very very different than what will actually happen. Many people that supported another candidate acutally liked Ron Paul quite a bit, but were not DEDICATED.

We are Dedicated. We are motivated. The Rules are in our Favor. Right now, we have the best possible chance to win this that we have ever had, and we are taking the COUNTRY, not just Nevada, by STORM.

We will win because we must. Keep your spirits high and eye on the goal. We CAN take back our Country!

 

[pauliticalfan]

They do matter. Here's why: perception.

 

[rp2012win]

The man went on CNN and said he will get 2nd. It matters.

 

[Varin]

Think they are locked this year, so yes it does mater.

 

[DamianTV]

What difference does perception make when it does not matter what the general public interprets his support as? It is ALL about the Delegates. Those are the only people we need to focus on.

 

[Jtorsella]

They do matter. Here's why: perception.

This this one thousand times this.
It's really awesome that we have a great and well organized delegate system. But we're going to be marginalized real fast if the people get slanted news that bypasses our delegate strength.

 

[rp2012win]

What difference does perception make when it does not matter what the general public interprets his support as? It is ALL about the Delegates. Those are the only people we need to focus on.

because sheep vote for whoever is perceived to be doing well

 

[joshnorris14]

Nevada delegates are bound through the first round. That means, they will have their vote locked in. That in and of itself disqualifies the notion the the Nevada Caucus result numbers do not matter.

 

[Butchie]

I keep hearing everything "doesn't matter", we get 4th twice in a row, it doesn't matter, we got 3rd in Iowa when we should have gotten 1st, it doesn't matter, we don't attack Romney and it doesn't matter, Ron get's booed on stage and it doesn't matter. I haven't paid much attention to elections all my life but I'm pretty sure the guy who keeps coming in 3rd and 4th out of 4 DOES NOT WIN.

I appreciate all of the optimism but we can't win this thing with wishful thinking, these things need to be addressed immediately, I feel alot like maybe we've already screwed ourselves by not addressing some of this stuff already, seems most now are just looking to wrap this up and get on with it, at this point Ron might start to look like a guy who's "spoiling it" by hanging around.

 

[newbitech]

at what point do the numbers matter?

I understand this.

It does not take a majority to prevail... but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brushfires of freedom in the minds of men.​

I also understand that the man who said that was a founding father of the America Revolution that was anything but bloodless.

This quote may hold true today, but I question whether or not that same result may come without the violence.

I believe in order for the changes we all seek to come about peacefully, continuing to ignore popularity and "the numbers" may be a bit delusional. Freedom maybe popular, but the idea of freedom is so severely distorted that I doubt the freedom we seek is the of the popular sort.

Not trying to sound defeated, but I heard Ron Paul say today that his job was to be the messenger. American's do not want a messenger to lead this country, especially a messenger that brings the message of truth that the vast majority are trying so desperately to avoid.

 

[DamianTV]

because sheep vote for whoever is perceived to be doing well

Then we dont just tell them, we SHOW them, by showing up to State and National and take EVERY DELEGATE SPOT. The closer to D-Day we get, the more impact media persuasion will have. By that time, we should be showing that we are DOMINATING WITH DELEGATES.

Oh yeah, why are Newt and Santorum even running? They arent running in all the states. But here is the kicker, if they were to take all the Delegates from those states, they still could NOT win because of an insufficient number of delegates! So, why are they running? Answer: SPLIT THE VOTE.

 

[Ireland4Liberty]

Then we dont just tell them, we SHOW them, by showing up to State and National and take EVERY DELEGATE SPOT. The closer to D-Day we get, the more impact media persuasion will have. By that time, we should be showing that we are DOMINATING WITH DELEGATES.

Oh yeah, why are Newt and Santorum even running? They arent running in all the states. But here is the kicker, if they were to take all the Delegates from those states, they still could NOT win because of an insufficient number of delegates! So, why are they running? Answer: SPLIT THE VOTE.

This confirms why they are in it.

 

[HOLLYWOOD]

Yes it does matter. In the other states it's all about momentum...

Erick Erickson
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Today in Nevada it appears we will finally lose the last remnants of justification to take Ron Paul's campaign seriously.
6 hours ago

 

[Babylon]

Give it a rest.

Numbers matter.

The only way ron paul will win is to win.

Your post reminds me of Libertarian Party forums, fantasizing about how they can turn their 1% vote total into a win.

The majority of delegates will be for Romney. Period.
Do you not recall how the nevada state convention went down in 2008?
They cancelled it and had a frigging conference call and picked a slate of McCainiacs.

 

[emazur]

There are too many dumb voters opting for Romney b/c they think he can beat Obama. If Paul wants to get the reputation that he too can be beat Obama, therefore winning over some Republican drones which therefore nets hit some more delegates, he needs to do well or win a race such as Nevada.

 

[DamianTV]

CNN and FAUX are playing Checkers, we are playing CHESS. We are taking all the important spots, and will be positioned for winning better than any other candidate. That is the only point I am trying to make.

When it comes time, and we find that we have 75 to 80% of all the delegates, how do you think the media will report that? A 'Coup'? Maybe call it an 'Upset'? What is happening right now is exactly what we want to happen, dont worry about the numbers, then we can correct the media when talking to people brainwashed by it.

There are too many dumb voters opting for Romney b/c they think he can beat Obama. If Paul wants to get the reputation that he too can be beat Obama, therefore winning over some Republican drones which therefore nets hit some more delegates, he needs to do well or win a race such as Nevada.

Thankfully, it is not their votes that we need to concern ourselves with right now. That is why the way this is going is actually a good thing.

 

[FSP-Rebel]

Erickson has been waiting to say that forever. Fact is, everyone knew Romney was going to win. He and the other dick on the CNN panel were saying that since NV is so libertarian that Paul should be expected to be a lot higher than where he is. Uh, certain sentiments can be libertarian but the state isn't very libertarian in general. The recent poll of likely voters had Paul @ 9% and now he is hovering around 20%. That would normally be called a surge but they were gonna word things in whatever way they could to spell an "end" to Paul's campaign. Hence, there never was a way for any perception to lead the public to believe Paul is strong via a state whose caucus is dominated by Mormons who overwhelmingly vote for their man, bar none. So actually, since Romney was slated to win hands down, the real news is that Paul outperformed based on their own poll which was highlighted once or twice. However, it didn't fit their desired meme, so they then go on to say that if Paul couldn't do this or that in NV, he tanks. It is in fact that we're installing delegates that will be the wild card. It's plain to see on every station that none of them have a grasp on how the delegates will take hold.

Not that I don't think we need to win a state or two but it certainly wasn't going to happen in NV and anybody should have known that. Media is just playing the BS routine tonight.

 

[LiveForHonortune]

Remember what happened to our Nevada delegates last time around?

 

[Babylon]

Remember what happened to our Nevada delegates last time around?

Its all part of an elaborate 4 year plan, dont you know....
The master Nevada plan of 2008 is still being played out. And they thought rp lost? Hah.... Its all going down exactly as planned. Electing Obama was just a ploy... It was to lull the opposition into a state of overconfidence. The LAST thing we want at this point is rp to win a state... No no no... If you think its as simple as that, you are woefully naive. McCain won the nomination and look what happened to him! rp is far smarter than Mccain.
/sarcasm

 

[Liberty74]

When has a candidate gotten trounced in state after state yet came away with the nomination based on "what ifs" because of what goes on behind the scenes with delegates?

I'm sorry but it just does not work that way. In order for Ron to win the nomination, he will have to start winning states and create some momentum from there on to rack up delegates. If not, the game of "what ifs" is just a delusional strategy.