Needs Attention: Glenn Beck Video: CATO, Soros and Tom Woods

[JuicyG]

To those interested in understanding Soros and where he`s coming from in regards to economic views; here is him at a recent appearance at the Cato institute. You`d be surprised to find out he`s free market oriented but doesn`t believe in absolutism when it comes to that.
Where government should step in, whether it`s local government or federal was always very hard question to answer for everyone. Ayn Rand for example, believed there ought to be some courts and police. Some even went against the idea of having public courts and police. There is a level of government and law regulation that is highly debatable. My personal views are even more to the right, because I think a private police and multiple police forces would be better than a state police because one should be able to buy protection from where he wants and a good price.

I personally think private sector can handle everything better than the government. Top private universities such as Harvard are proof of that. Also, competitive companies from capitalist world vs crap products from communist world is also proof of that to certain degree.
Question is where you draw the line and I think it`s very interesting and valid question to ask.

Soros is libertarian at heart but was always open to the idea of regulations. He said when comparing himself to Jim Rogers(which most libertarians and conservatives love) that major difference between him and Rogers is that Rogers thinks we can`t be wrong in our view of the market, while he thinks we can always be wrong because we are not perfect and thus our assessments can be wrong. Ron Paul himself said a few times he`s not an absolutist. Ron Paul would not end all financial aid for people because he knows many are hooked on it like junkies and would try a transition phase.
Soros is a strong believer in ones imperfections. He believes one can always be wrong no matter how strong the convictions. He sees that as a source of total liberty, the idea that you have too look upon yourself as a individual prone to mistakes. Single mindedness leads to less freedom because it puts you in a cage of your own making.

I`m a small hedge fund manager and have read a few books on him, which is more than some who`ve only watched some youtube neocon fear-mongering propaganda videos coming from Glenn Beck and other such puppets can claim.

Here is Soros talking recently at the libertarian Cato institute. If you want a quick glimpse of where Soros` coming from, I suggest watching from min 29:30. His closing statement is most interesting and shows his true intention:

"Those of us who are concerned with protecting individual liberty should work together to restore the standards of political
discourse that used to enable democracy to function better."

p.s: Yes, I know video was posted in 1st post but most who commented so far haven`t bothered to check it out.

 

[romacox]

Libertarians are often accused of being uncaring and mean. But true Libertarians are among the most compassionate because they are most tolerant of diversity.

Soros infiltrates organizations by giving large donations, and then by being invited to speak. He has done this with many organizations including Aspen Institute (which trains Republican candidates like Rubio and McCain), and CATO Institute.
http://www.aim.org/media-monitor/something-you-wont-see-on-cnn/

He says Americans should be willing to give up some things so the rest of the world will be better off (redistribution). He opposes the gold standard in favor of the IMF's one world currency. None of these things are libertarian.
http://dotsub.com/view/49858fff-7cda-4667-a84e-23ad1905c028



I heard a most inspiring speech by Doug Weed. He said he was a ministerial student in college, and he and his class mates would go to the college lunch room refusing to eat. They were demonstrating. As they sat at their empty tables, they smugly looked down on those who were eating.

Then one day he realized that all those times he starved himself, he fed not one person. He explained that when refrigerators cars and TVs first came out they were too expensive for everyone except the wealthy. But as more people bought them, the prices came down making it affordable for even many in third world countries. He learned that capitalism helped enrich the whole world, and doing without served no one.

He continued saying that some things are depleted by use...like if one mines coal, there is less coal in nature. But that does not apply to everything like progressives think.

 

[JuicyG]

Libertarians are often accused of being uncaring and mean. But true Libertarians are among the most compassionate because they are most tolerant of diversity.

I fully agree.

 

[JuicyG]

Soros infiltrates organizations by giving large donations, and them by being invited to speak. He has done this with many organizations including Aspen Institute (which trains Republican candidates like Rubio and McCain), and CATO Institute.
http://www.aim.org/media-monitor/something-you-wont-see-on-cnn/

He says Americans should be willing to give up some things so the rest of the world will be better off (redistribution). He opposes the gold standard in favor of a one world currency. None of these things are libertarian.

I heard a most inspiring speech by Doug Weed. He said he was a ministerial student in college, and he and his class mates would go to the college lunch room refusing to eat. They were demonstrating. As they sat at their empty tables, they smugly looked down on those who were eating.

Then one day he realized that all those times he starved himself, he fed not one person. He explained that when refrigerators cars and TVs first came out they were too expensive for everyone except the wealthy. But as more people bought them, the prices came down making it affordable for even many in third world countries. He learned that capitalism helped enrich the whole world, and doing without served no one.

He continued saying that some things are depleted by use...like if one mines coal, there is less coal in nature. But that does not apply to everything like progressives think.

I personally don`t care that he has more social views. He`s entitled to his own opinion. The fact that he sponsors freedom organizations is a plus in my book.
It`s like those NGOs he sponsors are lame because guy who sponsors them has some interventionist views in certain areas. I don`t really give a damn. He sponsors hundreds of NGOs he believes in across the world. Some of these NGOs are not exactly my cup of tea while others are but this is not the point.
It`s like saying Ron Paul is racist because some Stormfront fanboys donated to him or like his stance on free speech or border security.

Soros is one of the most savvy gold investors btw. He believes a lot in the value of gold.

He funds causes he believes in like one that fights for legalizing marijuana, anti-consumerism NGOs, pro-freedom groups all over the world.

 

[romacox]

I agree that Soros can do with his money as he pleases, and opposes war. But the way he wants to avoid war is through a one world governing power and the IMFs one world currency which is totally opposite of Ron Paul's solutions for these unconstitutional wars.

I care very much in a world in which people govern themselves rather than being governed by central banks and governments. I vote for Ron Paul...not Soros.

 

[JuicyG]

I agree that Soros can do with his money as he pleases, and opposes war. But the way he wants to avoid war is through a one world governing power and the IMFs one world currency which is totally opposite of Ron Paul's solutions for these unconstitutional wars.

I care very much in a world in which people govern themselves rather than being governed by central banks and governments. I vote for Ron Paul...not Soros.

Sure, but take a look at how Ron Paul teamed up with Ralph Nader a few times because they believe in many of the same issues.

"The enemy of my enemy is my friend" as they say...

 

[romacox]

"The enemy of my enemy is my friend" as they say...

Reagan said that quote, and Ron Paul says it is part of the reason we are in this mess now of supporting violent dictators who oppress their people. the people of these countrries hate their oppressive dictators, and hate us for keeping them in power.

Also, there is no proof that Ron Paul teamed up with Soros. It appears to be something CATO and Barney Frank concocted perhaps to harm Ron Paul's campaign. Ron Paul was there because he is part of Congressional Oversight Committee . Ron Paul's military budget cuts, as seen in his budget plan, is different than what Barny Frank came up with. Anyway, it is best not to jump to the conclusion that Ron Paul has teamed up with George Soros at this time.

 

[JuicyG]

Reagan said that quote, and Ron Paul says it is part of the reason we are in this mess now of supporting violent dictators who oppress their people. the people of these countrries hate their oppressive dictators, and hate us for keeping them in power.

Also, there is no proof that Ron Paul teamed up with Soros. It appears to be something CATO and Barney Frank concocted perhaps to harm Ron Paul's campaign. Ron Paul was there because he is part of Congressional Oversight Committee . Ron Paul's military budget cuts, as seen in his budget plan, is different than what Barny Frank came up with. Anyway, it is best not to jump to the conclusion that Ron Paul has teamed up with George Soros at this time.

Don`t think Ron Paul meant what you think he meant. This is why he teamed up with Ralph Nader when it proved wise to do so.

I wasn`t saying they`ve teamed up. Was just saying neocons have spread lots of lies and have demonized Soros a lot.

Many of their claims are false, such as the claim about his negative role in crashing the Pound Sterling and him "helping" out nazis while he was 14 years old, which is dumb claim in itself because you can`t even stand trial at that age. There`s a more elaborate explanation in an earlier post.
Even if Soros is funding certain organizations connected to his campaign, doesn`t mean there is a some kinda` alliance there.

 

[romacox]

Juicy G, my friend. I have enjoyed an intelligent discussion with you. However there is an old story in which several if Plato's colleagues were in a discussion about how many teeth are in a horses mouth. They carried on for some time until Plato spoke up and said, lets count the teeth in a horses mouth.

Until we hear from the horses mouth (metaphorically speaking)...From Ron himself, we do not know his intent behind that meeting. We are only guessing. However the important thing is that his budget plan announced in his campaign speeches is not the same plan that Barney Frank announced to the news media. No one need worry about that. Soros had nothing to do with Ron Paul's budget plan.

P.S. If the meeting was something that Barney Frank and CATO concocted to harm Ron Paul (and we do not yet know), we might be adding to the flame by deciding that Ron Paul aligned himself with such a group...that may not be the case at all.

 

[GeorgiaAvenger]

Sure, but neocons are just the same, Romney, Santorum, Newt... no difference there. He`s better than them actually because he cares for certain individual freedoms and he`s anti-war.

War is not my issue but I guarantee Soros would support a war that suits him and he does not care about indvidual freedoms.

 

[Carpenter1966]

I used to follow Beck as well. He lost me over the following:

Promoting PMs as investments, rather than a return to sound money. And the subsequent protituting himself for on-line PM dealers. Cool Glenn, encourage folks to purchase PMs that way, leaving a wire transfer, postal, and transaction trail for future sequestration. This extends to all his chaos merchant sponsors.

8/28 Rally: Epic Fail. A half a million people show up. The least he could have done was to march over 1600 Renn and take a seat. What a squandered opportunity.

The trip Israel last year: Let's put hundreds or thousands of Beckies in harm's way in the most dangerous country in the Western World. For self-promotion.

Constant insistence that God is the only thing that'll save us. Telling us to get on our knees or all is lost. I'll die on my feet. Thank you very much.

I still question his sudden retreat on the FEMA camp issue. One day, he was ready to pull back the curtain on the radio show, promising he'd do so on that evening's TV program. A few hours passed. Nothing on the TV show, and from that point on Fema camp believers were pariahs.

I have a few others, but you get my point. A washed-up comedian-turned-political-pundit, schilling books and tours and special memberships, coffee mugs and tee-shirts. Yet Beckies think he walks on water. And Beck will keep them all glued to their monitors now. And discourage any real action, save fervent prayer.