libertygrl
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I've been trying to defend Ron's stance on illegal immigration since I first got involved in his '08 presidential run. Unfortunately, I haven't done a very good job and could use some suggestions on how to improve.
Despite all his positives, this is the one issue that some voters still cling to as a reason as to why they won't vote for him. They claim that he's a Libertarian and that all Libertarians are for open borders.
There's always a few people - especially on the ALIPAC forums - who use this one issue as a reason to convince others not to vote for him. Check this out - there is a very active thread going on there right now about Ron Paul in 2012.
Here's one example:
Paul says that people who attack bi-lingualism are "jealous and feel inferior." He says that if we had a truly free market economy "illegal immigrants would no longer be the scapegoat. We would realize that we would probably need them, and they woud be acceptable."
Illegal immigration was ruining California in the late 80s, meanwhile Paul was making this asinine assertion. California was experiencing what the rest of the nation is just now waking up to. The stage was being set for the outright take-over of my state. Illegal immigration was definitely a problem for California in 1988. It just wasn't a problem for Ron Paul.
Furthermore, I don't believe his views have even changed all that much. The only probem he mentions now days is the welfare state. Not crime. Not wage depression. Not anti-Americanism. Just welfare. All of these things were starting to ruin California in the 1980s and he had no problem with it. He has slightly changed his views since then, but they are essentially the same -- end welfare, and open up immigration.
http://www.alipac.us/ftopic-218855-days0-orderasc-50.html
Any feedback on how to defend Ron Paul here? We may want to consider how to defend his stance on this issue as well as his foreign policy so that we may be better prepared in 2012.
Despite all his positives, this is the one issue that some voters still cling to as a reason as to why they won't vote for him. They claim that he's a Libertarian and that all Libertarians are for open borders.
There's always a few people - especially on the ALIPAC forums - who use this one issue as a reason to convince others not to vote for him. Check this out - there is a very active thread going on there right now about Ron Paul in 2012.
Here's one example:
Paul says that people who attack bi-lingualism are "jealous and feel inferior." He says that if we had a truly free market economy "illegal immigrants would no longer be the scapegoat. We would realize that we would probably need them, and they woud be acceptable."
Illegal immigration was ruining California in the late 80s, meanwhile Paul was making this asinine assertion. California was experiencing what the rest of the nation is just now waking up to. The stage was being set for the outright take-over of my state. Illegal immigration was definitely a problem for California in 1988. It just wasn't a problem for Ron Paul.
Furthermore, I don't believe his views have even changed all that much. The only probem he mentions now days is the welfare state. Not crime. Not wage depression. Not anti-Americanism. Just welfare. All of these things were starting to ruin California in the 1980s and he had no problem with it. He has slightly changed his views since then, but they are essentially the same -- end welfare, and open up immigration.
http://www.alipac.us/ftopic-218855-days0-orderasc-50.html
Any feedback on how to defend Ron Paul here? We may want to consider how to defend his stance on this issue as well as his foreign policy so that we may be better prepared in 2012.
