National Guard May Deploy as Socialists, Unions Wreak Havoc in Wisconsin

[Dr.3D]

A call of the house was made... If those who hold vote cannot be found to obtain quorum, then their seats should be declared vacant and elections should take place for those vacant seats.

Well, if they vote like some I've seen, they don't need more than a couple of people in the house to vote for the rest of them.

 

[eduardo89]

How can the governor compel them to attend? Does he stare into their eyes and tell them what to do like a vampire? Can he get a neighbouring state police to round them up? I know it's against the Wisconsin Constitution to arrest them while in session, but can he "detain" them? What would it take to declare their seat vacant?

 

[Deborah K]

What part of "we, in the private sector, are shrinking and no longer have the tax revenue to give to you government employees for your cushy health care and pensions" don't they get?

 

[eduardo89]

What part of "we, in the private sector, are shrinking and no longer have the tax revenue to give to you government employees for your cushy health care and pensions" don't they get?

The entire sentence, the message, the reality, the immorality of their demands...

 

[Brooklyn Red Leg]

Not if we come together, that is why the Free State Project is so important.

True. Of course, it could also be an easy way to get us all clustered in one place and *KABOOM* up we go in a blast of fire and high velocity steel shrapnel. If I were truly paranoid, I would have people watching the skies for Predator Drones during any number of Free State gatherings.....

 

[FrankRep]

shocker:

Nancy Pelosi backs Wisconsin protesters
http://www.politico.com/blogs/glennthrush/0211/Pelosi_backs_Wisconsin_protesters.html

 

[eduardo89]

shocker:

Nancy Pelosi backs Wisconsin protesters
http://www.politico.com/blogs/glennthrush/0211/Pelosi_backs_Wisconsin_protesters.html

Who could have ever seen that coming???!?!

 

[Ninja Homer]

I thought all that was supposed to have been "purged" from polite political discourse, since the "right wing gun nut" shot Giffords?

 

[Anti Federalist]

True. Of course, it could also be an easy way to get us all clustered in one place and *KABOOM* up we go in a blast of fire and high velocity steel shrapnel. If I were truly paranoid, I would have people watching the skies for Predator Drones during any number of Free State gatherings.....

Don't think for one second that thought has not crossed my mind.

 

[aGameOfThrones]

"When school children start paying union dues, that’s when I’ll start representing the interests of school children."~Al Shanker

 

[Michael Landon]

I'm looking forward to this bill passing and we have part-time prison guards making minimum wage with no benefits. I know I'll feel a lot more secure knowing that the murderers, pedophiles, and rapists are guarded by underpaid workers who wouldn't possibly accept bribes from criminal organizations to benefit the prisoners or possibly compromise the security of the prison.

- ML

 

[eduardo89]

I'm looking forward to this bill passing and we have part-time prison guards making minimum wage with no benefits. I know I'll feel a lot more secure knowing that these murderers, pedophiles, and rapists are guarded by underpaid workers who wouldn't possibly accept bribes from criminal organizations to benefit the prisoners or possibly compromise the security of the prison.

- ML

Why aren't you out protesting?

 

[FrankRep]

Capitol Chaos: State Patrol Goes After Democratic Senators

TMJ 4 - Milwaukee

According to the Wisconsin senate majority leader, the Governor's office is sending out state troopers to go after Wisconsin's Democratic Senate members to bring in a vote on Governor Walker's budget bill which would dramatically limit government workers union's ability to negotiate many of their benefits.​

 

[RonPaulCult]

I can't wait until this bill passes and in an attempt to cut spending the state has to hire workers for minimum wage with no benefits. I can't wait to see people bitch and moan about how unprofessional the high schoolers are that are working at the state offices, or how the roads get plowed like shit because some 20 year old high school dropout doesn't care if he gets the roads cleared or not.

If the workers at McDonalds can't get my order correct how are they going to make sure my paper work gets filed correctly?

Also, I can't wait until the dominoes fall and Wisconsin outlaws all unions and associations. When the Dems get control and interpet the laws and outlaw the NRA from collectively lobbying on behalf of it's members.

I can't wait until the Dems start calling out the National Guard to squelch Tea Party rallys.

Don't think this type of shit won't happen because it will eventually.

I don't trust government, period.

- ML

If the workers at McDonalds sucks and same with their hamburger - I can walk to a better, perhaps more expensive burger joint down the street and get better food and service.

If my post office gives me poor service where else can I go to mail a letter?

Maybe you are correct that lower wages would lead to poorer service in government agencies BUT people will be most upset because they will have no other ALTERNATIVE. THAT is why the private sector services should be privatized. The free market would solve all of these problems.

 

[Humanae Libertas]

And these statist freaks say libertarianism is selfishness -- who are the real selfish bastards now, huh?

 

[low preference guy]

And these statist freaks say libertarianism is selfishness -- who are the real selfish bastards now, huh?

They say libertarians shouldn't be selfish so that libertarians would give them all their money. That's the point.

 

[Michael Landon]

Why aren't you out protesting?

I'm too busy collecting my overpriced, union wages while working half as hard as non-union workers.

- ML

 

[AGRP]

Does this mean I can walk out on my job if my boss doesn't agree to a pay raise?

 

[eduardo89]

Does this mean I can walk out on my job if my boss doesn't agree to a pay raise?

Only if you're part of a union

 

[Michael Landon]

If the workers at McDonalds sucks and same with their hamburger - I can walk to a better, perhaps more expensive burger joint down the street and get better food and service.

If my post office gives me poor service where else can I go to mail a letter?

Maybe you are correct that lower wages would lead to poorer service in government agencies BUT people will be most upset because they will have no other ALTERNATIVE. THAT is why the private sector services should be privatized. The free market would solve all of these problems.

Fairness in Conversation Act, I work at the Postal Service as a letter carrier, as a union member in the public sector.

That said, time and time again, there are temps working at the USPS that are continually arrested for stealing mail and throwing out mail. It happens ALL the time, that's why our union fights so hard to hire part-time flexible career employees (PTFs) at $14/hr instead of the temps (TEs) at $10/hr. There is an incentive for the PTFs to provide better service because they know at some point they will become full-time regular (FTR) career employees instead of the TEs who know that they'll be gone in a year or two. If you know that you don't have a career position you feel that there isn't a lot to lose by stealing DVDs, CDs, checks, etc. I'll admit that every once and a while there is a stupid full-timer that fucks up and does something like steal, but for most the thought of stealing mail and losing a good paying job isn't worth it.

Also, the service from the TEs is lousy, you can almost always tell when you've had someone other than your regular mailman deliver your mail because odds are you'll get someone elses letters or magazines. Temps don't care.

Now, I know I'll probably get attacked either for my stance on unions or for my employment so I knew the risk when I typed this post so feel free to ask questions or blast me, I can take it. That said, the Postal Service is the highest ranked government service according surveys and you can google that if you would like to verify. If you want to ask me why the USPS is going bankrupt it's because of too many high priced managers/postmasters and their stupid spending at the top level. My Post Office just spent $750,000 putting up a fence around our whole Post Office and another $250,000 laying down a new parking lot. We have a ratio of 1 supervisor per 15 workers where I believe the private sector has 1 per 25. I really wish Congress would come in and audit the spending of the Postal Service and they'll see that the problem is in the upper level.

About my union, we are a optional union where you can work as a letter carrier without joining the union. You still get the same benefits from the contract that the union workers get and they are treated the same by the other letter carriers with the exception of the die-hard union-loving liberals who treat them like crap but there aren't that many of the them left at my Post Office. Actually, out of the 150 carriers at my PO about 60 of them lean to the right with about 10 of those being Ron Paul Republicans.

We get paid less than the UPS carriers which is private sector but we get paid more than FedEx carriers. I'm sure this is due to UPS being unionized and FedEx not.

Back to the topic at hand, my sister-in-law is a teacher and she makes $45k a year with benefits, which is fairly decent but my questions for Scott Walker is, "what do you feel teachers should be paid? $10K/year, $20k/year? What salary should teachers accept to help Wisconsin eliminate their deficit? And is it the workers that caused the deficit or was it wasteful spending on the part of the state government?" I'm sure they could find other ways to eliminate the deficit.

- ML