"National Divorce" - is it time to split up?

acptulsa said:
You're not very good at being cynical, if you can really fool yourself into believing there's anything anti-establishment about this Politburo.
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FFS man, you just posted, in the other thread, a political carton mocking democrats for doing just what I'm talking about.

Musk and Gabbard and Kennedy are a "Politburo"?

I may have my differences with all three, I have my differences with Trump, but they are not so great as to not unite, politically, with them to prevent a for real Marxist politburo from taking over the nation and turning us into Venezuela.

All four in your cartoon were ex-democrats. The more they lose people, the better. They are an RCH away from losing Bill Maher, of all fucking people, in a real way, not in a fakey phoney, let me get some more ratings way. He thinks the democrat establishment has lost it's rabid ass mind, which it has.

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Anti Federalist said:
FFS man, you just posted, in the other thread, a political carton mocking democrats for doing just what I'm talking about.

Musk and Gabbard and Kennedy are a "Politburo"?

I may have my differences with all three, I have my differences with Trump, but they are not so great as to not unite, politically, with them to prevent a for real Marxist politburo from taking over the nation and turning us into Venezuela.

All four in your cartoon were ex-democrats. The more they lose people, the better. They are an RCH away from losing Bill Maher, of all $#@!ing people, in a real way, not in fakey phoney, let me get some more ratings way. He thinks the democrat establishment has lost it's rabid ass mind, which it has.
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Musk isn't? Haven't you been following the money? Seriously?

Kumbaya, indeed.
 
PAF said:
Musk isn't? Haven't you been following the money? Seriously?

Kumbaya, indeed.
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He doesn't believe Harris' handlers can be handling Trump too. They are presented to him as different teams, he desperately wants to think of them as different because the situation is unbearably dire, and he refuses to acknowledge that Raiders players and Chiefs players all work for the NFL.
 
acptulsa said:
He doesn't believe Harris' handlers can be handling Trump too. They are presented to him as different teams, he desperately wants to think of them as different because the situation is unbearably dire, and he refuses to acknowledge that Raiders players and Chiefs players all work for the NFL.
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Good cop bad cop.......................... right across the finish line.


Didn't [MENTION=3169]Anti Federalist[/MENTION] say "never talk to cops"?
 
Is the U.S. Headed for Breakup (in the Long Run)? | Tom Woods Show #2604
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dw47T0kLUek
{TomWoodsTV | 08 February 2025}

The Tom Woods Show: Episode 2604

The Mises Institute's Ryan McMaken believes that in the long run a breakup of the United States is inevitable. He also argues: whatever short-term victories we may celebrate today, we still need to keep an eye on the long run and the issues we need to face there.

Guest's Website: https://mises.org

Guest's Book: Breaking Away: The Case for Secession, Radical Decentralization, and Smaller Polities

 
Occam's Banana said:
Is the U.S. Headed for Breakup (in the Long Run)? | Tom Woods Show #2604
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dw47T0kLUek
{TomWoodsTV | 08 February 2025}

The Tom Woods Show: Episode 2604

The Mises Institute's Ryan McMaken believes that in the long run a breakup of the United States is inevitable. He also argues: whatever short-term victories we may celebrate today, we still need to keep an eye on the long run and the issues we need to face there.

Guest's Website: https://mises.org

Guest's Book: Breaking Away: The Case for Secession, Radical Decentralization, and Smaller Polities

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Covid indeed highlighted the significant differences between the states :up:

Covid may have been the best thing for secession in a long time :up:
 
33 Counties In Illinois Have Voted to Leave the State
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32IhnOwl8-k
{Mises Media | 03 March 2025}

Activists in Illinois and Indiana are talking about changing the state borders so separatist Illinois counties can join Indiana. As you’d expect, many politicians hate the idea.

Be sure to follow the Loot and Lobby podcast at https://mises.org/LL

 
Occam's Banana said:
33 Counties In Illinois Have Voted to Leave the State
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32IhnOwl8-k
{Mises Media | 03 March 2025}

Activists in Illinois and Indiana are talking about changing the state borders so separatist Illinois counties can join Indiana. As you’d expect, many politicians hate the idea.

Be sure to follow the Loot and Lobby podcast at https://mises.org/LL

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WELCOME BACK!
 
Now that Trump's back in power we can expect all the blue states to end up seceding instead of complaining about it 24/7.
 
Occam's Banana

Post in thread 'Texas secession #TEXIT'

TL Hulsey on Texas Secession and the Flaws in Nation-States
{Robert Murphy | 21 May 2025}

The Bob Murphy Show: Episode 409

Terry Hulsey joins Bob for a fascinating discussion of history and political science, with an end to providing a framework for Texas secession that can endure.

Mentioned in the Episode and Other Links of Interest:
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Occam's Banana said:
TL Hulsey on Texas Secession and the Flaws in Nation-States
{Robert Murphy | 21 May 2025}

The Bob Murphy Show: Episode 409

Terry Hulsey joins Bob for a fascinating discussion of history and political science, with an end to providing a framework for Texas secession that can endure.

Mentioned in the Episode and Other Links of Interest:
(Audio (mp3}: https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/9d01ba33-a63a-45df-a80f-3c0f14e6d0b7.mp3)

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Occam's Banana said:
Occam's Banana

Post in thread 'Texas secession #TEXIT'

TL Hulsey on Texas Secession and the Flaws in Nation-States
{Robert Murphy | 21 May 2025}

The Bob Murphy Show: Episode 409

Terry Hulsey joins Bob for a fascinating discussion of history and political science, with an end to providing a framework for Texas secession that can endure.

Mentioned in the Episode and Other Links of Interest:
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Smart guy :up:
 
This hasn't worked out well for Pakistan and India. Or Russia and Ukraine.

That's ofcourse the real argument against unlimited immigration.

At a certain point you splinter the culture and governments are formed through shared culture.

Once groups of people start to distinctly identify as a separate culture group they want to make their own state.

If a state like Texas broke off from the United States chances are it would continue to disintegrate.

Perhaps they could even do it using the internet by splintering the Internet.
 
nikcers said:
Civil war when there is a balance of power is one thing.

Normally it looks a lot like Afghanistan after the United States left it.

Mass starvation and the Taliban ruling.
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Well I'm not gonna be afraid of secession just because you think there's gonna be war.

If there's war then there's war. But what needs to be done, needs to be done.
 
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