"National Divorce" - is it time to split up?

[Occam's Banana]

Zach makes a ton of weak excuses in that video for why not to secede, but it all seems to be based on his quivering fear of big daddy Lincoln coming to kill him.

Give your balls a tug Zach.

In the accompanying article, he is bizarrely obsessed with the question of anarchy, and particularly the opposing takes of Rothbard & Friedman with respect to the "would you press a button to abolish the state?" thing - none of which has anything at all to do with the issue of "national divorce". (And in any case, there is no such button and never will be, so arguing over whether one ought to want to push it is purely symbolic, at best - and no more useful than arguing over whether pink unicorns fart flower-scented rainbows.)

 

[donnay]

Do they?

History hasn't really taught us how to handle a situation where one side of a civil war has ostensible control of enough weapons of mass destruction to end life in Earth, but the majority of them are in the territory of the other side, manned by troops who are part of those local communities.

Absolutely they do.

Proverbs 6:16-19 KJV
These six things doth the LORD hate: Yea, seven are an abomination unto him: A proud look, a lying tongue, And hands that shed innocent blood, An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, Feet that be swift in running to mischief, A false witness that speaketh lies, And he that soweth discord among brethren.

 

[acptulsa]

Do they?

History hasn't really taught us how to handle a situation where one side of a civil war has ostensible control of enough weapons of mass destruction to end life in Earth, but the majority of them are in the territory of the other side, manned by troops who are part of those local communities.

Absolutely they do.

Proverbs 6:16-19 KJV
These six things doth the LORD hate: Yea, seven are an abomination unto him: A proud look, a lying tongue, And hands that shed innocent blood, An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, Feet that be swift in running to mischief, A false witness that speaketh lies, And he that soweth discord among brethren.

Hm.

Good advice, bit kind of lacks specificity. They may be proud, bloody, scheming, lying, mischievous and divisive, and God may well be spectacularly unimpressed. But do they want absolute rule over an empty, radioactive wasteland?

 

[donnay]

Hm.

Good advice, bit kind of lacks specificity. They may be proud, bloody, scheming, lying, mischievous and divisive, and God may well be spectacularly unimpressed. But do they want absolute rule over an empty, radioactive wasteland?

These people are psychopaths, if it get's rid of you but takes them out in the process, their agenda is done.

 

[acptulsa]

These people are psychopaths, if it get's rid of you but takes them out in the process, their agenda is done.

You don't understand psychos in the least.

It's all about them. If killing you inconveniences them too severely, they don't do it. Nothing else will stop them. But that does.

 

[Occam's Banana]

https://twitter.com/ProgStateProj

https://twitter.com/ProgStateProj/status/1552114031472803841

 

[acptulsa]

Do it. Secede and kick all your white people out. I dare you.

Where's the popcorn?

 

[Occam's Banana]

According to a mega-survey conducted by researchers at University of California, Davis, and released this month, one in five US adults say political violence is justified at least in some circumstances. A much smaller portion of survey respondents, 3%, believe that political violence is usually or always justified. [see this post in this thread - OB]

Remarkably, just over half of the sample group – 50.1% – agreed with the contention that in the next few years the US would confront another civil war.

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[Occam's Banana]

"Our nation's ideological self-segregation is proceeding nicely." -- Michael Malice

https://twitter.com/RNCResearch/status/1563698354592387072

 

[TheTexan]

"Our nation's ideological self-segregation is proceeding nicely." -- Michael Malice

https://twitter.com/RNCResearch/status/1563698354592387072

I'm a little disappointed that she didn't say Texas, I must work harder .

 

[Anti Globalist]

"Our nation's ideological self-segregation is proceeding nicely." -- Michael Malice

https://twitter.com/RNCResearch/status/1563698354592387072

Conservatives still living in New York should have taken her advice years ago.

 

[Occam's Banana]

"Our nation's growing ideological self-segregation is proceeding nicely." -- Michael Malice

https://twitter.com/NBCNews/status/1564651933297696769

 

[Occam's Banana]

https://twitter.com/michaelmalice/status/1573347690381209605

 

[Snowball]

Possibly the most concise and accurate defence of secession as a fully American right, steeped in historical affirmation, that I've ever heard:



Audio download page:
https://www.thebadroman.com/show-notes/episode-24

 

[Anti Federalist]

That said, I'll ask you again. Where are the silos? Are they all on the national mall?

When the USSR broke up, the satellite states behind the iron curtain that did NOT have nukes, were the ones that suffered the most bloodshed.

 

[Anti Federalist]

I'm a little disappointed that she didn't say Texas, I must work harder .

You really want more New Yorkers showing up in TX?

 

[Anti Federalist]

"Our nation's ideological self-segregation is proceeding nicely." -- Michael Malice

https://twitter.com/RNCResearch/status/1563698354592387072

They've been doing that long before you started shooting your mouth off, sugar britches.


Goodbye Big Apple: More People Are Leaving New York Than Any Other State In The U.S.

https://www.cbsnews.com/newyork/news/people-leaving-new-york/

1 Jan 2020

"New York has lost nearly 1.4 million residents to the rest of the country since 2010 – and largely as a result of this outflow, the Empire State's total population barely budged during the decade,"

 

[Anti Federalist]

https://twitter.com/michaelmalice/status/1573347690381209605

Sounds like a good trade:

Let's abort our children, so we can continue working deep in the bowels of Mega-Global-Hyper corp, make this man a billionaire in the process so at the end of it all, instead of children and grandchildren to provide joy and support in our waning years before we die and get composted, we'll receive a sweatshirt and a Chinese made gold plated watch inscribed "Thank you for your service".

Oooo...sign me up.

Make it a package deal with a Chairman Mao bike, a soybean Yurt to live in and some bug burgers, accompanied by a Cardi B soundtrack 24/7.

Yay.

 

[Occam's Banana]

Breaking Away: On Secession and Small States

Until the day comes that a majority of the population wants to abolish all states, it makes sense in the meantime to look to ways that will reduce the power of states, localize that power, and take at least some of it out of the hands of some of the most powerful ruling state elites. This episode of Radio Rothbard features Ryan McMaken's talk presented at the Mises Institute 40th Anniversary Supporters Summit in Phoenix, Arizona, on October 7, 2022.

Recommended Reading

"On Secession and Small States" by Ryan McMaken: https://Mises.org/RR_102_A

"What We Mean by Decentralization" by Lew Rockwell: https://Mises.org/RR_102_B

"The European Miracle" by Ralph Raico: https://Mises.org/RR_102_C

"Nations by Consent" by Murray N. Rothbard: https://Mises.org/RR_102_D
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Be sure to follow Radio Rothbard at https://mises.org/RadioRothbard

https://odysee.com/@mises:1/breaking-away-on-secession-and-small:3

 

[Occam's Banana]

https://twitter.com/katiehobbs/status/1580942935650025475