Nader Spills the Beans! "Ron Paul was pacing..."

[ceakins]

I am voting for Baldwin, thank you very much.

And no, he wouldn't take away your freedom to worship Satan, or whatever it is you're trying to depict in your avatar.

Baldwin is a states' rights guy and a strong Constitutionalist. You just can't stand that he's also a Christian. Admit it.

Obviously you haven't researched the guy and his chairmanship of the Moral Majority. And obviously you don't know what your talking about, since your statement about satan. Moron I'm an atheist.

Or his anti-liberty stance on free trade.

Baldwin says we need to “rethink” the war on drugs, but he hasn’t advocated ending it. Instead he suggests sealing the border as the solution to our perceived drug problems. He hasn’t advocated freeing all non-violent drug offenders either. These are not in line with Ron Paul.

Baldwin was rated F by Poker Player’s Alliance for his stance on online gambling, anti-liberty.

In most of his writings and speeches he mentions religion or relates policy to it. This is unlike Ron Paul. Ron Paul rarely mentions religion on the campaign trail.

 

[qh4dotcom]

I don't like what Barr did so I stopped sending donations right after the 3rd party press conference. As Shelly from BreakTheMatrix said, she and I will be voting for the Libertarian platform, not for Bob Barr. And I will be voting in this election to help the 2012 LP nominee, whom I think will be a true libertarian, get automatic ballot access for the 2012 election.

 

[qh4dotcom]

And obviously you don't know what your talking about, since your statement about satan. Moron I'm an atheist.

I hope you realize that you just said the M word to one of the forum's moderators. Want him to ban you?

 

[ceakins]

I don't like what Barr did so I stopped sending donations right after the 3rd party press conference. As Shelly from BreakTheMatrix said, she and I will be voting for the Libertarian platform, not for Bob Barr. And I will be voting in this election to help the 2012 LP nominee, whom I think will be a true libertarian, get automatic ballot access.

Exactly.

 

[ceakins]

I hope you realize that you just said the M word to one of the forum's moderators. Want him to ban you?

The would be a completely futile endeavor, and pretty hypocritical.

 

[tmosley]

If there is no good choice, then vote for the worst candidate. Pray that he runs the country into the ground. Pray for oppression so horrendous that normal people stand up and call for revolution. Pray for mass murder by the government.

Obama '08! Now that's change we can believe in.

 

[FindLiberty]

qh4dotcom
I don't like what Barr did so I stopped sending donations right after the 3rd party press conference. As Shelly from BreakTheMatrix said, she and I will be voting for the Libertarian platform, not for Bob Barr. And I will be voting in this election to help the 2012 LP nominee, whom I think will be a true libertarian, get automatic ballot access.

ceakins
exactly.

Vote Libertarian. That's the plan... Win ballot access without fear of BB winning the race for POTUS!

 

[StilesBC]

Look folks, Barr ain't gonna be president. Your vote for the LP isn't going to show any sort of support for Barr, but rather the Libertarian platform. Just because Barr is an ass, doesn't mean you shouldn't vote for the party. If you're a member of the party, just have his ass thrown out right after the election. Simple.

 

[FindLiberty]

If there is no good choice, then vote for the worst candidate. Pray that he runs the country into the ground. Pray for oppression so horrendous that normal people stand up and call for revolution. Pray for mass murder by the government.

Obama '08! Now that's change we can believe in.

Good possibility (wake up call), but don't vote for BO unlesss you just have to vote for a winner...

 

[Kade]

you're delusional.

the Libertarian Party will do the best it has ever done in this election.

Wrong. Barr is polling now at 1%. Hardly worth "also ran".

 

[klamath]

I was going to vote Barr even though I had real questions about his moral charactor just for the chance to get the ideas out. I personally didn't agree with RP on the whole third party press conference but Barr agreed to come then backed out in the most despicable manor proving without a doubt his low moral charactor. RP got my write in vote.

 

[Andrew-Austin]

Sounds like Paul was going to endorse Barr.

Look folks, Barr ain't gonna be president. Your vote for the LP isn't going to show any sort of support for Barr, but rather the Libertarian platform. Just because Barr is an ass, doesn't mean you shouldn't vote for the party. If you're a member of the party, just have his ass thrown out right after the election. Simple.

Qft.

 

[nobody's_hero]

I look forward to joining the LP and taking part in its nomination process. No more Bob Barrs on my watch.

For this election, however, I'll probably leave the presidential slot blank or write-in Ron Paul.

Libertarianism isn't going to go away though. Here in Georgia, libertarian Allen Buckley won my vote over for U.S. Senate. He scores 100% in my books for fiscal conservativism and ending our world-police foreign policy. There's also some libertarians running for public service commissioner slots here in GA. I have no earthly idea what a public service commissioner does, though—sounds like a worthless state government position that could be better handled at county/municipal level . Maybe the libertarians would abolish it if they get elected.

 

[qh4dotcom]

If there is no good choice, then vote for the worst candidate. Pray that he runs the country into the ground. Pray for oppression so horrendous that normal people stand up and call for revolution. Pray for mass murder by the government.

Obama '08! Now that's change we can believe in.

I hope I am wrong but I wouldn't be surprised if all of that happens and the sheeple continue to accept and vote for the two-party system rather than start a revolution.

In 1944 the Democrats managed to get the top tax rate raised to 94%. Yes 94% in an election year and people happily continued to vote for and the Democrats won in 1944 and 1948.

 

[FindLiberty]

Sounds like Paul was going to endorse Barr.

I don't think so. Why would Ron Paul have invited them ALL, and then only pick ONE? (making the other ones look like fools for appearing at that RP announcement event - that's not RP's style).

+++

If CB is not on the POTUS ballot in TX (and also has not filed to become a write-in), who else can RP possibly vote for? I see three choices (unless the election is cancelled). He won't vote for one of the two evil's, or would he?

1) WRITE IN HIS OWN NAME, RON PAUL if write-in status was achieved by supporters in TX, or he just might write his name in anyhow out of defiance?

or,

2) He may have to reluctantly CHECK OFF THE POTUS LIBERTARIAN CANDIDATE.

or,

3) Maybe he won't vote for POTUS.

 

[RevolutionSD]

you're delusional.

the Libertarian Party will do the best it has ever done in this election.

"Best" in terms of what? Votes?? Who cares?

How much closer to liberty will Bob Barr get us? It's ridiculous to sell out to the republican establishment and then say you stand for freedom and liberty.

 

[Barney]

Barr is a phony

Standing up Dr Paul is the least of his sins. The man's a phony. Check his voting record. The man is no more a libertarian than Cheney.

Basically an unemployed neocon who sought to capitalize on Paul's popularity by doing a 180 on everything he's done and stood for. And if the LP constituents are that easily duped, then its demise and cleansing is a good thing. Maybe a real Libertarian Party will emerge out of this fiasco.

 

[jonahtrainer]

Standing up Dr Paul is the least of his sins. The man's a phony. Check his voting record. The man is no more a libertarian than Cheney.

Basically an unemployed neocon who sought to capitalize on Paul's popularity by doing a 180 on everything he's done and stood for. And if the LP constituents are that easily duped, then its demise and cleansing is a good thing. Maybe a real Libertarian Party will emerge out of this fiasco.

I don't like Bob Barr either.

 

[alaric]

I really like Ron Paul, don't get me wrong. However, it's absurd people get so angry that Barr made his own decision not to attend something that supported people he fundamentally disagreed with that are radically different than probably McCain or Obama. Baldwin may be similar, but McKinney and Nader are way off the deep end in left field. Relax people, don't be dogmatic.

you are forgetting that he originally said he would attend.Big difference!

 

[Brian4Liberty]

They are not/were never Ron Paul supporters if they could just throw their votes away on one of those two.

That's ironic, since they would say that we are throwing our votes away voting for people who will not win, or write-ins that will never be counted.

They are voting based on their strong dislike of Obama or McCain, and they want to vote for someone that has a chance of winning. The lesser of two evils. Sorry, that's the majority of the population.

Kind of like voting for Barr...