Nader Spills the Beans! "Ron Paul was pacing..."

you're delusional.

the Libertarian Party will do the best it has ever done in this election.

How much better do you think they would have done if Barr had worked respectfully with Paul and gotten a large number of the RP movement voting for him?

I hated what he did because it caused division in a community which is already struggling with all the divisiveness in politics today.
Keeping us divided is a tool used by the PTB to keep us fighting each other and not them. That a supposed libertarian would do so for the reasons he gave was absurd. However after listening to him speak more since, I haven't seen much of anything libertarian come out of his mouth. I actually heard him with beck on CNN saying we need to stay active in supporting georgia struggling democracy ect ect, in response to our sending them a cool billion. How can you be libertarian and not a non interventionist/for foreign nation welfare? Sounded pretty neoconned IMO

How they went from Badnarik to Barr is beyond me tho =) If he would have been LP candidate this year I think things would have turned out much better, at least he had a passion for the constitution and monetary policy.
 
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No, the gain will come from the fact that Barr is a conservative option for those that do not like McCain. .... Barr is getting broader support then simply the Ron Paul republicans.

I don't believe that has been quantified in any way (scientific or not), but you are probably correct in that Ron Paul supporters did not automatically go with Barr. I know many who will vote for McCain or Obama.
 
That "I was about to say a good word for him." was obviously going to be an endorsement.

I really don't think it was going to be an endorsement. That would have been rude to the other three candidates he invited and actually showed up.

"I know you're all here, but I'm endorsing this guy. Plus there'd be no reason to invite all of them if Dr. Paul were only endorsing Barr.
 
He said, ‘I can’t believe he let me down like this. I was about to say a good word for him.’ ”

That's how mad he got? :rolleyes: This guy is as cool as ice..

Anyone shilling for Barr is a douchebag.. the guy is clearly a fucken stain and makes a complete mockery of the Libertarian Party. Wake the ---- up. :rolleyes:
 
Barr's polarization and let-down of Libertarians will lead to a reign of radicals in the LP for many years to come.

If anything, Barr revitalized the LP. Ruwart '12, baby!
 
How much better do you think they would have done if Barr had worked respectfully with Paul and gotten a large number of the RP movement voting for him?

I hated what he did because it caused division in a community which is already struggling with all the divisiveness in politics today.
Keeping us divided is a tool used by the PTB to keep us fighting each other and not them. That a supposed libertarian would do so for the reasons he gave was absurd. However after listening to him speak more since, I haven't seen much of anything libertarian come out of his mouth. I actually heard him with beck on CNN saying we need to stay active in supporting georgia struggling democracy ect ect, in response to our sending them a cool billion. How can you be libertarian and not a non interventionist/for foreign nation welfare? Sounded pretty neoconned IMO

How they went from Badnarik to Barr is beyond me tho =) If he would have been LP candidate this year I think things would have turned out much better, at least he had a passion for the constitution and monetary policy.

Yes, a sad unfolding of events. It could have been a great year for the LP... (was it blowback from targeting Barr a few years ago?)

I wish RP had stayed the course, filed for write-ins, kept speaking about war/empire and the destruction of the USD.

It's a disaster, but not quite as bad as if George Washington had told all his men to just run and hide instead of taking a stand for Liberty.

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who gives a shit whether barr gets the most votes for the lp in history. it doesnt matter. what does matter is if the lp can sustain that. they wont because of barr.
 
Barr's polarization and let-down of Libertarians will lead to a reign of radicals in the LP for many years to come.

If anything, Barr revitalized the LP. Ruwart '12, baby!

hmmm i agree with kludge,sound the alarms.

yeah barr pretty much burnt his own bridges. I would of stood on corners and donated money to the lp,but not until they rid their party of the scum aka barr in my eyes...

the only person to blame for barr is the lp and barr himself. If the LP doesn't shape up soon, then i highly doubt i will support the lp in the future(i am disgusted with the lp and the gop,if it keeps going down this road we will need a new party...... and i was considered a hard-core libertarian. this must be the year the lp/gop lets voters down.
 
who gives a shit whether barr gets the most votes for the lp in history. it doesnt matter. what does matter is if the lp can sustain that. they wont because of barr.

i hear you. for the last 12 yrs i voted libertarian at all levels. If there is a lp candidate that even mentions barr name then they lose my vote ,the same for the republicans. i am disgusted with them both...
just hearing the words barr or mccain ,makes me want to puke on them..
 
RP still wasn't disrespectful even after what Barr did.

Barr will be remembered (if at all) as the nobody candidate who literally threw his campaign away on 5 minutes of being a jerkoff.
Also possibly as the man who killed the LP


Really? That's why RP endorsed an anti-liberty theocrat then?
 
He said, ‘I can’t believe he let me down like this. I was about to say a good word for him.’ ”

That's how mad he got? :rolleyes: This guy is as cool as ice..

Anyone shilling for Barr is a douchebag.. the guy is clearly a fucken stain and makes a complete mockery of the Libertarian Party. Wake the ---- up. :rolleyes:

Any person shilling for Baldwin is anti-liberty. I'd rather be a "douchebag" than someone that wants to take freedom away.
 
I really like Ron Paul, don't get me wrong. However, it's absurd people get so angry that Barr made his own decision not to attend something that supported people he fundamentally disagreed with that are radically different than probably McCain or Obama. Baldwin may be similar, but McKinney and Nader are way off the deep end in left field. Relax people, don't be dogmatic.
 
I don't believe that has been quantified in any way (scientific or not), but you are probably correct in that Ron Paul supporters did not automatically go with Barr. I know many who will vote for McCain or Obama.

They are not/were never Ron Paul supporters if they could just throw their votes away on one of those two.
 
Any person shilling for Baldwin is anti-liberty. I'd rather be a "douchebag" than someone that wants to take freedom away.

Ok, so you're a self admitted douchebag... and I don't shill for Baldwin, so I ain't anti-liberty.

That just leaves you as a douche... lol

But yeah, if that was a general statement and not direct at me.. ok, kewl - carry on.. :rolleyes:
 
i'm having the horrid thought that if "undercover" obama people want a bang for the buck,
they could behoove themselves to make Bob Barr more efficient! they could quietly organize
for him, because he could pull people away from mccain/palin... ESPECIALLY in swingstates!
even if Bob Barr has had a small business, small government conversion, he still is a name
and then some amoungst the neo-cons due to his stances of yesteryear! ironically enough...
 
Any person shilling for Baldwin is anti-liberty. I'd rather be a "douchebag" than someone that wants to take freedom away.

I am voting for Baldwin, thank you very much.

And no, he wouldn't take away your freedom to worship Satan, or whatever it is you're trying to depict in your avatar.

Baldwin is a states' rights guy and a strong Constitutionalist. You just can't stand that he's also a Christian. Admit it.
 
I am voting for Baldwin, thank you very much.

And no, he wouldn't take away your freedom to worship Satan, or whatever it is you're trying to depict in your avatar.

Baldwin is a states' rights guy and a strong Constitutionalist. You just can't stand that he's also a Christian. Admit it.

me too
 
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