Mystery Missile Launch Seen off Calif. Coast (video)

Do you have the proper security clearence for this chart ?

Heh.

The Dragon Has Landed For The American Eagle

The Chinese dragon has landed in the American shop. The American eagle is sputtering. Sino-US rivalry has been simmering for the past many years, as China has replaced Russia in the American scheme of things as its most potent adversary. China has begun to project itself as an equal of the United States. China’s public outburst against the recent (“destabilizing”) US-South Korea naval exercises and its officials’ on-record statement that China had as much reason to be upset about such activities in its backyard as the US was about Soviet manoeuvres during the Cuban Missile Crisis is a testimony to Beijing’s changed demeanour. The Chinese government’s mouthpiece People’s Daily wrote on July 29, 2010 that Beijing was willing to work with Washington if Americans were to accept China as the second world power and divide areas of domination.

Some of China’s recent military moves are worth taking note of. Well aware of the historical fact that only the most powerful seafaring nations have ruled the world for centuries, China is busy giving teeth to its navy. It is working on the 2400-km range DF-21 Anti Submarine Ballistic Missile (ABSM), a weapon that promises to be Beijing’s game-changer in future naval battles as it can decapitate American warships in the region. The weapon poses the gravest threat ever to the US Navy as its space-based maritime surveillance and targeting systems make its interception well nigh impossible.

The American maritime superiority is threatened like never before. Already the situation is such that the over-stretched American naval forces are no match to China, both in terms of numbers and fire power. It is a fact that the US alone is no longer capable of checking and countering Chinese naval hegemony in Asia; Washington will need the help of Japan, India, Vietnam and South Korea to do that...

They will kick our bankrupt, paper tiger ass!

I'm sure the neocons will understand when the ChiComs start building bases in the US "to protect their interests."
 
L.A. ‘mystery missile’ may have been errant launch, experts say http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2010/11/la-mystery-missile-may-have-been-errant-launch.html
November 9, 2010 | 2:26 pm

Military officials remain stumped about the mysterious projectile spotted in the sky off the Southern California coast, but aerospace experts said it appeared to be an errant missile launch.

Pentagon officials are looking into what they have called an "unexplained contrail" after a KCBS news helicopter shot video late Monday of a luminous point hurtling through the sky followed by a long vapor trail.

Each branch of the military has denied involvement, and the Pentagon has been cryptic about the object and who may have launched it. Despite this, officials said the event was not a threat to national security. They also said it was not a launch by a foreign military.

While rocket launches are a common sight in Southern California, getting proper authorization is a weeks-long process. Authorities that oversee commercial and military launches have denied any knowledge of a scheduled launch.

The Federal Aviation Administration did not approve any commercial space launches around the area Monday, said spokesman Ian Gregor. In addition, the agency did not receive reports of any unusual sightings from pilots who were flying in the area.

After reports of the event, the agency ran radar replays of a large area west of Los Angeles and did not spot any fast-moving, unidentified targets in that area.

Officials at nearby military bases where rocket launches regularly take place also said they were not involved.

Aerospace experts who reviewed the footage said the size of the plume suggests it was a large military rocket or missile.

"The launch of a rocket that size doesn't belong to any commercial entity without them issuing a press release," said Marco Caceres, analyst with Teal Group Corp., a Fairfax, Va.-based aerospace research firm. "It can't belong to anyone but the military."

The lack of explanation from the Pentagon makes Caceres believe it may have been a mistake -- perhaps a defense exercise launched by accident.

Based on the footage, it is unclear where exactly the missile was coming from, but many analysts believe it originated near Naval Air Station Point Mugu in Ventura County, where missiles and missile defense exercises are regularly carried out.

Officials at the base, however, denied it was their missile.

"It didn't happen here," said Naval Base Ventura County spokeswoman Teri Reid. "There was no firing on the range yesterday."

The military also operates a floating ocean platform and regularly carries out tests at San Nicolas Island, one of the Channel Islands.

Riki Ellison, founder and chairman of the Missile Defense Advocacy Alliance, said it could have been launched from an island off the mainland or a submarine in the Pacific Ocean.

In any case, if this were a planned event, military officials would have known weeks in advance.

"There is a safety routine that the government goes through," Ellison said. "Everything needs to be cleared away. They're not going to take any risks."

-- W.J. Hennigan and Tony Barboza

If it was what it looks like , accident and nobody is going to say that .
 
So ... uh ... where is it? That seems like an important question to answer.
 
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AIPAC not even giving notice anymore...could at least drop a note with one of their senators or something.
 
It was Aquaman!

Vox: Debt downgrade, then mystery missiles

I don't know about you, but I don't find this combination of events to be particularly lifting of the animal spirits.
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Aquaman notwithstanding, it seems unlikely that it was just a jet contrail... rising from the ocean. I have the impression that the Official Story tellers in Washington are having a rough time coming up with their usual fiction. I tend to think their best bet is to blame the private space consortium with which Richard Garriott is involved, give them a chewing-out for failing to properly alert the appropriate authorities, then quietly pay them to publicly support the story.

Stratfor concludes that "everything points to a missile launched by the United States", but they find it inexplicable that no reason for launching the missile has been given yet.
 
They are tryin to say it was an airplane now...

It doesn't look like that contrail came from a jet. Just look at the footage of the contrail with an aircraft flying in front of it. Even though the aircraft is much closer, the contrail is many times larger than the plane. Maybe if it was a dozen jets all duct taped together...

EDIT: After reading a bunch of other opinions on different sites, it may have been a jet contrail after all. Idk...
 
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My bet is it was China making a statement of how close they can get to the US, after all they are a little pissed about the Feds printing more money, 600 Billion, which devalues the dollar and the Treasury Notes they hold on the US, real simple.

Yeah, pay up or we will engage in a catastrophic war that will kill millions and cost trillions.
I hope the Chinese are smarter than that.
 
So, its been a day and they still don't know what it was. I think this rules out any kind of commercial aircraft, and any purposely launched missile or jets. If it had been a commercial aircraft then they would have had to have had permission with the government which i am guessing they didn't seeing as how they havn't announced anything.
These are the options i see available:
1.) It happened accidentally (i very much doubt this. a launch of this magnitude probably doesn't happen with just a flick of the switch).

2.) A person or Persons within the military purposely launched it for unknown reasons (meaning not officially allowed by their superiors).

3.) It is fake and someone was having fun with some video editing software (i doubt this too because i think i read that NORAD was aware of the launch but won't say what it was).

They say it wasn't foreign, but i really don't know how they know that if they don't know what it was.
 
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So, its been a day and they still don't know what it was. I think this rules out any kind of commercial aircraft, and any purposely launched missile or jets. If it had been a commercial aircraft then they would have had to have had permission with the government which i am guessing they didn't seeing as how they havn't announced anything.
These are the options i see available:
1.) It happened accidentally (i very much doubt this. a launch of this magnitude probably doesn't happen with just a flick of the switch).

2.) A person or Persons within the military purposely launched it for unknown reasons (meaning not officially allowed by their superiors).

3.) It is fake and someone was having fun with some video editing software.

They say it wasn't foreign, but i really don't know how they know that if they don't know what it was.

If it was incoming foreign it would have been picked up on the screen and tracked in.
 
It is pretty bad the government is "uhh, not sure? hmm.." -- kind of like the bozos who flew the B-52 with nuclear-warhead tipped cruise missiles down to Louisiana.

That wasn't bozoistry, it's called "getting caught". I have a few friends who were PCOs (postive control officer). I spoke with two of them when the event made the news and they both said it was a pack of lies. Where nukes are concerned there is NO SUCH THING as this sort of error. Ever. It does not happen. There are never fewer than 2 PCOs in attendance of a set of nukes at any given time. Ever. For example, if there is a B52 with bombs or missiles aboard, the ONLY time a PCO can enter the aircraft is when the other PCO accompanies him. If one PCO disappears from sight such that they have entered into the secured area, the protocol is for the other PCO to shoot and kill him, no warnings, no questions, no hesitation. Another friend confirmed all of the protocol - he guarded loaded bombers at a SAC base for years. He told be that if any person, or a single PCO, approaches an armed plane, they are shot instantly. There are no warnings given, just bullets and good night Irene. He was under standing orders to even shoot the president if he violated the secure area of an armed bomber. That is how serious this shit it, and so it should be.

Example of a fatal fuckup - a PCO once wandered under the open bomb bay of a B52 without taking his buddy. The area guards could no longer see his hands because the upper part of his body was obscured by the bomb bay door. They shot him stone dead without uttering a word to him.

That they chalked this up to mis-IDing a REAL bomb for a dummy practice bomb is beyond absurd and one of my ex-PCO buddies made that so very clear.

"Positive Control" means the bombs are NEVER unattended except when in vault. Nobody just leaves bombs sitting around in an unsecured fashion. Doing so gets people real dead.

"Uh hey, did someone check out some nukes? Hmm not me. You? Nah...uhhh...well they're not there...."

IDIOTS.
Not idiots, pal. One can only speculate on what they got caught attempting to do. Consider this - the chain of positive control broke with the pilots and crews of those planes. Why were there no PCOs on the receiving end? Because there were not supposed to be. But methinks perhaps the nature of the stunt imposed some limitations on what the crews could do in terms of securing the aircraft from prying eyes. After all, there are routines that are normally carried out when a plane lands and parks. Perhaps a miscalculation or a chance deviation leading to a non-involved ground crew member popping his head in and saying HOLY FUCK! He would know immediately that his life was in immediate and imminent mortal danger. He would have run out of there as if someone had doused him in gasoline and lit a match. I sure as hell would have. What then? On discovering no PCOs present, an extremely severe breach of protocol conclusively indicated by the fact that he was still alive, his duty would be to report the incident immediately, if not sooner. Busted. Humina humina humina... um... erm.... um... uh... we thought it was a practice bomb... yeah, that's the ticket, a practice bomb.

Sorry, but that story of mis-identiciation doesn't get off the ground. Even the Spruce Goose flew better than that.

I cannot help but suspect that something REALLY evil had be thwarted there - unless this was some charade for another purpose - a diversion perhaps? Pretty good one, too - nukes going out of positive control protocol. Insanity.
 
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"It could be a test-firing of an intercontinental ballistic missile from a submarine … to demonstrate, mainly to Asia, that we can do that," speculated Ellsworth.

Because nothing impresses Asians like scaring the hell out of Los Angeles?
 
I imagine they already know we can do that .

Of course they do, which is why proving to China (or whoever) that we have such capability is an absurd notion. We, along with a dozen other countries, have had such capability for decades now.
 
I've been trolling all of my favorite forums today.. financial, survival, guns, etc.. and everyone is talking about this "missile".

What disturbs me the most is that jokes are being made, people are making fun, asking questions.. but NO ONE is outraged!!!

I want to know WTF fired this missile off of the coast of LA and I want to know right now! This secret BS has to stop!!!

Why are people not demanding answers? I mean REALLY demanding answers! Why do we, as citizens, not have any control of our country?!? I'm furious!!!

Or am I just crazy? perhaps I should just go about my business, pull the wool back over my eyes, and continue on with life.. nothing to see or talk about.

I'm sick and tired of this. :mad:
 
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