My email from Frank Luntz

That and the "a lot of people don't like you". I mean I don't care who said it, you just don't write that. You're only furthering his point about supporters being abusive.
 
I completely agree with what has been said. Everytime supporters do stupid things it will have BLOWBACK for Ron Pauls campaign. I doubt Fox is against us because of that, though. But that doesn't mean we shouldn't behave. More important is that undecided voters get wrong impressions, and there were several posts about supporters being aggressive and arrogant towards people on the streets when canvassing, too.
 
The OP is a perfect example of someone who just straight up doesn't get that being offensive and divisive when promoting Ron Paul is COUNTER productive. Yes Frank Lutz might DESERVE ridicule and insults, but we represent someone else other than ourselves when we do this stuff. People generally generalize, its an ironic truth. Asking Frank in a cool and reasonable manner would have been far more useful. He may have had a moment of calm and answer reasonably before returning to his anger. We can learn a lot about our opponents if we approach them correctly. No matter if they conspire against us, they are still humans and you may find they might tell you more if you don't swear at them. Go figure.

Learning how we are viewed from others people's eyes is important, you might even say that is the thesis to Dr. Paul's anti-terrorism arguments. If you learn the reasons people are against you, you now have a path to use to change their mind or at the very least undermine their support.
 
Rangeley said:
If you sent it to him, you said it.
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So im supposed to be nice and sweet to the guy who is the megaphone for hate towards Ron Paul. Give me a break.

You sit and be a good sheeple and I'll take the heat for your liberties
 
Ok Frank is a putz

Someone needs to sit him down and explain a term i like to call "BLOWBACK"

When you try to sway an election in a certain direction(ie propping up these so called leaders) is exactly what caused 911 the people were outraged and decided they had enough and we all know what happened next.

This guy is living in a fantasy world.

And if he did indeed like Ron Paul but didn't like his supporters then he would still support him and not do his best to discredit him.

I do think alot of the RP supporters go a little overboard but I can't say they haven't been provoked

Ron Paul supporters are like WASPS if you poke their nest they will all swarm and sting the fuck outta you
 
robertwerden said:
So im supposed to be nice and sweet to the guy who is the megaphone for hate towards Ron Paul. Give me a break.

You sit and be a good sheeple and I'll take the heat for your liberties
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HAHAHAHA, you are so noble, bearing the message of F U frank. If thats taking the heat for liberties, then I have vastly underestimated our opposition. Excellent inserting of sheeple too, don't you ever get tired of trying to hold yourself above your fellow Ron Paul supporters just because they disagree with you?
 
robertwerden said:
So im supposed to be nice and sweet to the guy who is the megaphone for hate towards Ron Paul. Give me a break.

You sit and be a good sheeple and I'll take the heat for your liberties
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No, you're supposed to ignore him and not bring blowback upon Paul or his supporters
 
Talldude1412 said:
HAHAHAHA, you are so noble, bearing the message of F U frank. If thats taking the heat for liberties, then I have vastly underestimated our opposition. Excellent inserting of sheeple too, don't you ever get tired of trying to hold yourself above your fellow Ron Paul supporters just because they disagree with you?
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Thats what Liberty is. You do what you want and I do what I want. Get it?
 
DealzOnWheelz said:
Ok Frank is a putz

Someone needs to sit him down and explain a term i like to call "BLOWBACK"

When you try to sway an election in a certain direction(ie propping up these so called leaders) is exactly what caused 911 the people were outraged and decided they had enough and we all know what happened next.

This guy is living in a fantasy world.

And if he did indeed like Ron Paul but didn't like his supporters then he would still support him and not do his best to discredit him.

I do think alot of the RP supporters go a little overboard but I can't say they haven't been provoked

Ron Paul supporters are like WASPS if you poke their nest they will all swarm and sting the fuck outta you
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Gee, we sure showed Frank.
 
robertwerden said:
So im supposed to be nice and sweet to the guy who is the megaphone for hate towards Ron Paul. Give me a break.

You sit and be a good sheeple and I'll take the heat for your liberties
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You confront people with your ideas, not with insults or even things that can be taken as subtle threats of violence. Your tactics are counterproductive and will win no supporters.
 
robertwerden said:
Thats what Liberty is. You do what you want and I do what I want. Get it?
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Nooo, you silly man. This has nothing to do with your LIBERTY! This has to do with effective ways of spreading our message and representing Dr. Paul. I could give a hamster's kidney if you use these means to show your support for Tibet or your favorite meal at Wendy's, but when trying to spread an ideology, being abusive DOES NOT WORK.
 
robertwerden said:
I responded back and said if he likes Ron Paul, then do a youtube endorsement. I told him I would even pay him for his time to do it. Paying for endorsements is common and probably the only way the other guys get endorsements.
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Yep. Where do ya think all those campaign contribution go? Wonder how much Leiberman and Kerry got? Bet it was over $1M each.
 
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