My city mulling Pit Bull / Dangerous Animal ban

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I'd like to get your thoughts on this because you are all beautiful people.

Proposed restrictions for pit bulls and other "dangerous animals" promise to stir emotions with pet owners.

City Councilman Rob Vande Zande will discuss his plan Wednesday night for ordinances that would add rules for pit bull owners and prohibit new pit bulls from being licensed.

"If you have a pit bull now, you're not going to have to give your pit bull up," Vande Zande said. "If there are any new pit bulls — a female with a litter of pups — after 12 weeks, those pups would not be allowed to be in Fond du Lac."

The new rules would prohibit pit bulls at the Fond du Lac Humane Society from being adopted by city of Fond du Lac families. It also would prohibit people who move to the city from bringing their pit bull pet with them.

A second part of his proposal — unrelated to pit bull rules — would prohibit people from owning or possessing any wild or exotic animals, including any animal having poisonous bites. It could include primates, raccoons, skunks, foxes and wild and exotic cats.

The Fond du Lac City Council meets at 7 p.m. Wednesday in the Legislative Chambers of the City County Government Center, 160 S. Macy St. The public is welcome to attend.

No action on the pit bull/dangerous animal proposal will be taken Wednesday night. Citizens normally have the opportunity to speak for up to five minutes on any agenda items.

If there appears to be some support for the proposal from other council members, it could be brought back for a vote at the Feb. 8 meeting.

Dog bites
Vande Zande said he has researched the numbers of reported dog bites in the city over the past five years. The percentage that is attributable to pit bull breeds has increased from 10.7 percent of the bites in 2007 to 33.3 percent of the bites in 2011.

"I'm not saying all pit bulls are bad," he said. "The numbers speak volumes — we need to seriously look at this."

About 20 other Wisconsin communities have ordinances that relate to pit bulls and/or dangerous animals. Some nearby communities with ordinances include Ripon, Mayville, Fox Lake, Montello and Juneau.

I've read plenty of articles from different cities that are engaging in the same type of proposal. It seems like there's a national campaign to outlaw pit bulls at the local level and it's getting silly.

Now, my personal take on this is that there is absolutely no need for this nonsense, especially the "dangerous animal" part. To me, they are just looking for another thing to punish people over. Obviously, pit bulls can be quite dangerous in the wrong hands, more so than other dogs. They have incredibly strong jaws and are very muscular and if you're not careful or informed about your particular dog's pedigree then you could setting yourself up for a potentially bad situation. But that is no reason to pass yet another law. I find it sort of silly that the same state that just passed a conceal-carry law now is out to ban ownership of an animal.

To go even further, my opinion is that there is a hint of racial animus that is attached to a proposal like this. In the last 5 years or so Fond du Lac(my city) has gotten a large influx of blacks and latinos, mostly from the Milwaukee and Chicago communities, of which the pit bull is fairly popular. I frequently see young men out walking their cute little pit bull pups(I just want to hug them) and you never saw this before 2006, so this is a fairly recent phenomenon. Of course, this won't be admitted publicly and I'd have no way of proving the sentiment. It's just the general feeling I get.

In short, a "dangerous animal" ban is retarded and should never be adopted. I don't think anyone needs a law to tell them that keeping a coyote or a fox or a badger for a pet is a bad idea. Are pit bulls statistically more dangerous than other large dogs i.e rottweilers, dobermans, mastiffs, german shepards, great danes etc? Take away dog fighting rings and I'd have to think it's negligible. But I have no doubts that in a few years they would expand the ban to include most large breeds. If they are truly concerned about safety then try to educate the public and change their minds. Maybe the local paper should do a 3-part series on why you should buy a cat or a chihuahua instead of that bloodthirsty 3 month old pit bull with the adorable eyes.

What say you?
 
Time to vote that retard out of office. By banning people with pit bulls from moving there he is hurting the city not helping it.
 
Other dogs are often misidentified as pit bulls after an event happens. By far, the most dangerous animal is man anyway, especially those who seek power over others.
 
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Does that look like a viscous killer? My dog Lando is the nicest dog you'd ever meet. The problem with pitbulls are they are strong and smart, they get out of their cages and go on a rampage. I left my dog out of the kennel once when we left and he ended up digging a hole into our floor to get out to look for us.

And he is only half pitbull.
 
Time to vote that retard out of office. By banning people with pit bulls from moving there he is hurting the city not helping it.

The city council is five people and they are all quite old. I've always thought about running for a seat myself; my uncle was on the council before being elected to the Wisconsin Assembly in 2010, so he could give advice. I would be BY FAR the youngest person there.

They do stupid shit like this all the time.
 
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Does that look like a viscous killer? My dog Lando is the nicest dog you'd ever meet. The problem with pitbulls are they are strong and smart, they get out of their cages and go on a rampage. I left my dog out of the kennel once when we left and he ended up digging a hole into our floor to get out to look for us.

And he is only half pitbull.

Lando is an amazing name. I'm jealous.

City government logic: Bad owners are the problem, but if we limit the choices of the bad owners they'll buy an approved dog and they'll magically turn into a good owner!
 
The city council is five people and they are all quite old. I've always thought about running for a seat myself; my uncle was on the council before being elected to the Wisconsin Assembly in 2010, so he could give advice. I would be BY FAR the youngest person there.

They do stupid shit like this all the time.

run against the old fool dog hater; make dogs an issue; its something everyone can identify with

and your first promise:
ABOLISH ALL DOG LICENSES
(you don't need a license for children, or a cat why for dogs?)
 
i have a 90lb male pit and he is a pussy . i bought him in the ghetto from a person that was obviously breeding them to fight . so far he got his ass kicked by a wiener dog , groundhog , cat , and a puppy lab . but he did take a diarrhea shit on a chow once , that is the only time he has mean . kinda .
but my wife treats him like a child so no , they are not dangerous . unless you want them to be . the same could be said about any domesticated animal .
 
Does that look like a viscous killer? My dog Lando is the nicest dog you'd ever meet. The problem with pitbulls are they are strong and smart, they get out of their cages and go on a rampage. I left my dog out of the kennel once when we left and he ended up digging a hole into our floor to get out to look for us.

And he is only half pitbull.

thats what people say before they attack another dog, adult or child...I've seen 2 attacks in my life, and one was a pitbull on another dog, and one was a half pitbull that attacked and shredded my friends arm when he ran to get a ball...the owner said it was his fault, and that the dog was nice and wouldn't hurt a fly, blah blah blah...dunno...
 
Pibbles can be some of the most adorable, friendly dogs ever. As can Rotties, Dobermanns, GSDs, and pretty much any other breed someone can think to call "aggressive" based solely on their pedigree.

I've been bitten by terriers, chihuahuas, & attacked by a saint bernard mix. Met more aggressive chow chows and cocker spaniels than I can count.
Pits have just been popularized as THE fighting dog to have. Then you have bad owners who can't deal with a headstrong, smart, and strong animal.

Occasionally a dog is just aggressive. It happens. It's not a breed problem.
Cocker spaniels can get aggressive due to a condition that happens with the breed; rots their brain, basically. Don't see anyone trying to outlaw cockers.
Chow chows are notorious for being one-family dogs. They can get aggressive with strangers. Very few places have breed specific legislation dealing with chows.
The dog breed that has the highest number of "bites" per year tends to vary based on what breeds are popular at the time.

I'm really not fond of breed specific legislation. I don't like the idea that the government, no matter how local, can tell me what I can and can not have as a pet, especially as far as domestic animals go.

I am, however, all for keeping your animal on your own property. If it gets off of your property and causes harm, you are obviously responsible for that.
 
run against the old fool dog hater; make dogs an issue; its something everyone can identify with

and your first promise:
ABOLISH ALL DOG LICENSES
(you don't need a license for children, or a cat why for dogs?)

I had a brain thought after reading this. If owner's of dogs are normally liable for their dogs actions i.e getting sued if your dog gets loose and attacks your neighbor or his dog, then why aren't parents liable for their children when they commit violent acts? Is this a licensing issue where they are forcing you to claim responsibility because of your license or do I have that wrong?

We don't sue the parents of the bratty kindergartner who bit your daughter during school, do we? We also don't prohibit adoption of red heads just because they're more likely to be aggressive than the blue eyed blondie(I just made that up for argument, gingers are perfectly fine.).
 
a hamster bite is more painful than a dog bite, so should Hamsters be banned?

dogs are individuals; to ban a dog because he is a pitbull is the same as banning blacks or Muslims
 
a hamster bite is more painful than a dog bite, so should Hamsters be banned?

dogs are individuals; to ban a dog because he is a pitbull is the same as banning blacks or Muslims

if hamsters and chihuahuas start mauling and killing people, then yes, ban all hamsters and chihuahuas...
 
if hamsters and chihuahuas start mauling and killing people, then yes, ban all hamsters and chihuahuas...

I have no stats but I bet people killed more people than pit bulls

to generalize with a breed of dog is just as bad as generalizing against a race of people

and this is just an excuse to ban all dogs at some point.

first pit bulls, then rots, then Malinois and sheps, then a beagle will bite someone so they will want to ban beagles.
 
I have no stats but I bet people killed more people than pit bulls

to generalize with a breed of dog is just as bad as generalizing against a race of people

and this is just an excuse to ban all dogs at some point.

first pit bulls, then rots, then Malinois and sheps, then a beagle will bite someone so they will want to ban beagles.

dogs aren't people ... my god, ur gonna use the gov't is trying to ban all dogs excuse...lmao... ok, you win... goodnite..
 

meh, the reason we hear about things these days is instant media... it probably happened back then, maybe it wasn't as renowned...I dunno... so what do you say about people with the cutest, calmest, loving pitbulls that maul babies? when your kid gets mauled, then come show me those same articles...I dont buy it, but I may be wrong...I saw my friends arm, and I almost thru up, I doubt I'll ever see a chihuahua or hamster do what that dog did.. and I'm not talking about the losers that breed dogs to attack, I can understand that's the owners fault, I'm talking about the sweet, lovable ones that maul...

http://pit-bulls.christianfunfair.org/attacks.htm

oh, and I had a friend that had 2 pitbulls, never had any issues...very calm... but doesn't mean I'd have them around my child...no way, no how..
 
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