Murray Sabrin will support John McCain! [Admin: No root source for info]

[SabrinForSenate]

Yes, that is fair. You are correct - I should not have presumed the rest of the movement has to be with me on this. (Kinda of assumed they would be)

Yes, as long as you recognize that Murray Sabrin is committed to the principles of liberty and that the only reason you don't like him is because of one press release, then your entitled to believe what you want.

 

[newyearsrevolution08]

Its hard to know who to trust as a politician anymore and I think that is just the problem. Always do your research and yes there can be people who even voted wrong in the past as well who now have learned more about the constitution through ron paul and might have changed their views from then on and will only vote for the constitution as it should be.

I myself used to be a mccain man and that was still until LATE last year. We all WAKE UP at different times and I think we will start seeing some current politicians who like and agree with ron paul who have a not so great record in voting even though they NOW will be 100% on par with the constitution.

Now playing games just to get elected is what its all about and getting that "general population" vote. This thinking however will lose some of the diehards but odds are will replace that with even more sheepish voters who can hopefully then WAKE UP.

I am not going to talk down on anyone who does what he or she can to help us fight for our country especially on uneven playing grounds how they are now, it can also work against the person later on though when they then speak out against people like mccain and the failed policies.

I still would elect a ron paul republican/democrat who has most of the constitutional views but plays the game for the general population to get into office. I wish they all could just run on the 100% constitutional platform and everyone would accept them with open arms as well but look at how well that works on a national level for us so far.... We need to get the general population voting with us in one way or another because real change needs to be done NOW before our country really goes down....

 

[JS4Pat]

I mean what about Sabrin's POSITION do you not like?

He is right on the issues - that is why I was excited about his candidacy.

I just believe that what he did by saying he will support John McCain as the nominee runs counter to the essence of what this movement is about - TRUTH and REAL CHANGE IN OUR POLITICAL SYSTEM!

I believe this movement is about rising above the conventional political game of "going along to get along". I envision this movement settling for nothing less than TRUTH. We can disagree on some issues - but TRUTH & CONSISTENCY should be our Trademark.

Supporting John McCain demonstrates inconsistency between what Sabrin proclaims to stand for and stand against.

This is not good - In my opinion it is inexcusable. I hope Ron Paul withdraws his endorsement.

 

[familydog]

He is right on the issues - that is why I was excited about his candidacy.

I just believe that what he did by saying he will support John McCain as the nominee runs counter to the essence of what this movement is about - TRUTH and REAL CHANGE IN OUR POLITICAL SYSTEM!

I believe this movement is about rising above the conventional political game of "going along to get along". I envision this movement settling for nothing less than TRUTH. We can disagree on some issues - but TRUTH & CONSISTENCY should be our Trademark.

Supporting John McCain demonstrates inconsistency between what Sabrin proclaims to stand for and stand against.

This is not good - In my opinion it is inexcusable. I hope Ron Paul withdraws his endorsement.

Withdraw his endrosement when this hasn't been confirmed? I think Ron has better judgement than that.

 

[JS4Pat]

STFU YOU GUYS ARE SO WHINEY. OHMFG know wonder well never achive anything cause dumbasses like you guys always whine whine whine qwhine. its annoying as hell.

I don't think this whinning or being nitpicky.

An action like this is a direct reflection of the integrity of this movement.

As a Ron Paul Republican - I want to be on record as STANDING AGAINST any candidate that pledges his/her support to John McCain.

 

[JS4Pat]

Withdraw his endrosement when this hasn't been confirmed? I think Ron has better judgement than that.

Jeeeesh - this isn't even confirmed yet????

WTF??

I hope this whole thread is moot.

 

[familydog]

Jeeeesh - this isn't even confirmed yet????

WTF??

I hope this whole thread is moot.

Well, the link that DailyPaul got it from doesn't have any sources. The site just claims Sabrin said this.

EDIT: The source for this information says the poster has official ties to Sabrin. I'm skeptical, but take it how you want.

 

[JS4Pat]

Well, the link that DailyPaul got it from doesn't have any sources. The site just claims Sabrin said this.

Man I hope the claim is false...

 

[JS4Pat]

Well, the link that DailyPaul got it from doesn't have any sources. The site just claims Sabrin said this.

EDIT: The source for this information says the poster has official ties to Sabrin. I'm skeptical, but take it how you want.

So have we got confirmation on this?

I think it is important that we set the record straight.

 

[Devil_rules_in_extremes]

I found this over on Daily Paul!

"With regard to presumptive Republican Presidential nominee John McCain, Republican U.S. Senate candidate Murray Sabrin, New Jersey’s foremost advocate of limited government and individual freedom, today issued the following statement:

“As a proud conservative Republican who has donated to, campaigned for, and supported such solid conservatives like Scott Garrett, Steve Lonegan, Jay Webber and Bret Schundler, I will support the Republican Presidential nominee if it is John McCain."
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http://www.dailypaul.com/node/39434

This link doesn't even work.

I call BS on Murray Sabrin making this statement.

 

[Flash]

I can understand people being disappointed. Murray Sabrin is in line to be the next Ron Paul. But this story isn't even confirmed yet. Lets just keep donating t Sabrin's campaign like we've been doing.

 

[boggie08]

How are we supposed to change the GOP if we are going to attack it constantly? Someone set a trap for him by asking if he would support the Republican nominee. If he had answered no, then he would have all of us, but few Republicans. I am not going to abandon a candidate running on Ron Paul's platform because he is not the absolute maverick that Ron Paul is.

 

[boggie08]

The truth of the matter is that for this movement to work, we are going to need pure patriots and compromisers. Compromisers can help bring the message into the mainstream. I agree we should be very careful of compromising our principles, but I do not think that is what this is. I never bash McCain to a McCain supporter. That only pushes them away and closes their eyes to the truth.

 

[JS4Pat]

How are we supposed to change the GOP if we are going to attack it constantly?

Ahhhh - How are we supposed to change the GOP if we give a public endorsement of what they represent today? It's total hypocrisy and puts all of our credibility on the line!

Someone set a trap for him by asking if he would support the Republican nominee. If he had answered no, then he would have all of us, but few Republicans. I am not going to abandon a candidate running on Ron Paul's platform because he is not the absolute maverick that Ron Paul is.

I might be able to swallow Sabrin's answer if the nominee were Huckabee or Romney (although I would still lose respect for him). But McCAIN!!! He stands for just about EVERYTHING that this movement stands against!

Proclaiming support for John McCain demonstrates a glaring inconsistency between Sabrin and what this movement is fighting for and fighting against. If this is confirmed to be true, then I would urge people to NOT contribute to his campaign.

 

[seeker1]

Just another politician.

Hey folks, why are you so hung up on a politician being political? He's going to say what needs to be said to be elected. I don't trust him or his loyalties.

You really bought into this Ron Paul Republican GOP takeover thing didn't you?

 

[Unspun]

All of you that are getting riled up about this really need to watch Edward G. Griffin's "An Idea Who's Time Has Come" on Google Video.

 

[Flash]

If this is confirmed to be true, then I would urge people to NOT contribute to his campaign.

Thats a fair deal. But I still think this is just a rumor. Until its confirmed, keep donating and supporting him.

 

[Naraku]

http://www.redjersey.net/2008/02/20/murray-sabrin-will-support-the-republican-nominee/

I'm pretty sure this is true. Again, it shouldn't matter. The reaction of some here is the kind of stuff that makes good plans go sour.

 

[JDouglasFisher]

I think the R[evol]ution has already started to speak with their wallets, as the ticker on the Murray Sabrin website has more than doubled from roughly 62,000 dollars on Thursday, to about 151,000 as of Saturday afternoon.

As for you naysayers out there who are afraid of anything that isn't "perfectly inline" with what you think is the way you do business, I advise you to get on the National Conference Call this Thursday Evening, 9pm EST, 6 PM PT. He has been on it for the past two weeks, and plans to be on it every Thursday from here on out, giving short 10 minute discussions about the Federal Reserve, National Sovereignty, Border Security, etc. Something different every week..

Call in line is: 605-475-8500 access # 5092984. Hear it for yourself, and then decide. But I think its safe to say that the people have decided already, and that although I understand you caution, you need to realize that true %100 Libertarian Candidates who will only talk to other Libertarian Voters, cannot win simply because they do not have the voting base to push them over the top.

 

[JS4Pat]

I'm pretty sure this is true. Again, it shouldn't matter.

CREDIBILITY!!!

I have not spent the past 9 months spreading Dr. Paul's message only to be rightfully labeled a "hypocrite" when I have to admit that this movement supports a candidate who supports someone like JOHN McCAIN!

For me this is not even negotiable...

I DO NO SUPPORT WAR MONGERING NEOCON REPUBLICANS WHO BLATANTLY VIOLATE THE US CONSTITUTION! NOT FOR ANY REASON - STRATEGIC OR OTHERWISE!

I know politics requires compromise and in order to win we have to play the game to some extent - but this is way too far out of bounds.