Much as I hate to admit it, Beck's show today was awesome.

[ssantoro]

That's exactly right. Does anyone here really think the world elites are just sitting around waiting to be exposed by Ron Paul and Ed Griffin? This is all in the plans. They would NEVER allow this to go mainstream unless they had a plan. The Federal Reserve could be taken down tomorrow and the elites wouldn't blink an eye. The next phase is already ready to go.

Why do we always have to be one step behind. Why can't we come up with a plan to be ahead of the curve? Is it possible to beat TPTB at their own game?

 

[Anti Federalist]

Rhetorical question is rhetorical.

And see, that's the bitch of this whole thing.

Honey, honey, poison.

GB - "Oh woe is us, the FED is destroying the currency, secretly running the government and turning the nation over to hostile foreign interests!!! Where, oh where is the skilled oppositional political leadership that is speaking out against this outrage??!!!"

Meanwhile, 2000 miles away, the phones in 10 term Texas Congressman Ron Paul's office remain eerily silent...

 

[pcosmar]

Why do we always have to be one step behind. Why can't we come up with a plan to be ahead of the curve? Is it possible to beat TPTB at their own game?

Nope.
Have to change the game, and not play theirs.

 

[Anti Federalist]

Depressing how this thread hijacked the one that had been going on for days - due to a "popularity contest"

OMFG...Jeez...I'm jumping in and out of here due to being stuck at the inlaws house (bleagh) in Dallas (double bleagh) so I didn't even see the first thread until afterward.

I missed the first thread but gave appropriate credit to jct74 for the first video.

Here, have a plus rep to make you feel better.

FFS...LoL

 

[Anti Federalist]

Those were not the worst comments, the worst comments were made by that piece of shit David Horowitz, to the effect that we were all terrorists, and Beck blandly agreeing with him.

You know, I still don't trust Beck any more than I can throw him -but I went back and watched those clips of Beck calling "us" terrorists, and it was not as bad as I remembered.

What he said, in effect, was that with all the "V for Vendetta" and so forth and Guy Fawkes and the attempt to blow up parliament - he said that it was concerning that some extreme elements of the movement conceivably COULD be motivated to go to far and commit terrorist acts (i.e. try to emulate Guy Fawkes).

I don;t agree with what he said, but again, looking at it in hindsight it was NOT as big of a deal as it was made to be here on RPF at the time. And frankly, he does owe us an apology. BUT considering how unknowledgable he was 3 years ago, I can see it being very easy for his handlers manipulating him to feel that we were a bunch of crazies and we needed to be feared.

I still am very much on the fence about Beck, and he will need to seriously walk the walk during the 2012 campaign - BUT I am pretty much over the "terrorist" comment in 2008 campaign.

 

[pcosmar]

Yes, we would be so much better off if this episode had never aired and new people had not been exposed to the truth behind the federal reserve.

Oh,I'm glad it ran. Though it could have been hosted by anyone.
Possibly more effectively by some.
I suspect it is more to lend Beck some credibility so that he can more effectively sabotage Dr.Paul later.
And the fact that it is so late in the game that ending the Fed is already planned.

 

[Fredom101]

Anyone get the feeling that the media darling "front-runners" for the GOP in the coming election will be railing against the Fed, much like Republicans have traditionally railed against big government, only to expand it as much or more as Democrats?

 

[Matt Collins]

You know, I still don't trust Beck any more than I can throw him

Exactly. After he colluded with Rick Perry to torpedo Medina's campaign, he cannot be trusted. But, if he happens to disseminate good information in the mean time, then that's great.

 

[BlackTerrel]

That's exactly right. Does anyone here really think the world elites are just sitting around waiting to be exposed by Ron Paul and Ed Griffin? This is all in the plans. They would NEVER allow this to go mainstream unless they had a plan. The Federal Reserve could be taken down tomorrow and the elites wouldn't blink an eye. The next phase is already ready to go.

Because the world doesn't play like a fantasy movie. The "world elites" aren't sitting in a room, petting a cat and laughing about how they'll "get away with it if not for those meddling Ron Paul and Ed Griffin".

 

[Eric21ND]

Eh. I don't think it is neccessary to go off the deep end with that kind of conspiratorial thinking.

Beck is a former neocon who is starting to wake up a little bit to liberty. That's all it really boils down to.

And for a good portion of his life he was a drunk. He's also not naturally gifted intellectually or well-read, he's been on a learning curve the last 5 years or so.

 

[devil21]

Can't wait for Beck to endorse Huck or Romney or Pawlenty or whatever status quo schmuck is next to line. Suddenly these sorts of threads will seem silly.

Even if Nap "converted" him, once Rupert tells him his job is on the line, Beck will do as told.

 

[low preference guy]

Can't wait for Beck to endorse Huck or Romney or Pawlenty or whatever status quo schmuck is next to line. Suddenly these sorts of threads will seem silly.

Why would it make this thread silly? The people who read and learned something from the Creature from Jekyll Island aren't going to have the information erased from their brains after Beck endorses.

 

[devil21]

It will make any and all threads regarding Beck doing "good" null and void.

Of course it will be erased, since most support the man (the "personality") and will follow whoever he endorses. Been saying it for a long time....Beck is a wolf in sheep's clothing. He will show his true colors when it matters and all the shows with Griffin and whatnot will be quickly forgotten as his followers march to the polls to vote for whoever he ultimately pushes to the masses. It ain't gonna be Ron Paul. Do you think Rupert Murdoch is really on our side?

 

[FrankRep]

Can't wait for Beck to endorse Huck or Romney or Pawlenty or whatever status quo schmuck is next to line. Suddenly these sorts of threads will seem silly.

Glenn Beck invited G. Edward Griffin on the show to expose the Federal Reserve and asked people to read The Creature Jekyll Island. The book jumped to #9 on Amazon.com.

Does that upset you?

 

[emazur]

Why would it make this thread silly? The people who read and learned something from the Creature from Jekyll Island aren't going to have the information erased from their brains after Beck endorses.

Agreed. I've always found the "Beck is building up libertarianism just so he can later knock it down" theory to be silly. Hell, if you think the Beck fans are so easily guided, why don't YOU take control of them at their 9/12 meetings? Guess what - people have been doing that (John Birch Society does this, and they can bring the 9/12ers and tea partiers in together with the Campaign for Liberty when holding guest speaker events - I've seen this myself Sheriff Mack came to speak in my city). As you heard on Friday's special, it was the Beck fans that prodded him into reading Creature from Jekyll Island - did their knowledge of this book just come one day out of a vortex? Nope.

Beck does promote libertarian ideas but is a flawed individual with known irrational biases (like Palin. But at least he said he's more Paul than Palin). Take him for what he's worth, praise him when he's right, call him out when he's wrong.

 

[devil21]

Glenn Beck invited G. Edward Griffin on the show to expose the Federal Reserve and asked people to read The Creature Jekyll Island. The book jumped to #9 on Amazon.com.

Does that upset you?

Threads devoted to Beck, good or bad, upsets me. He's a fake, a shill, a pied piper, etc. So yeah, wonderful that Beck's viewers committed to memory about 3% of this show's contents and 1% will read the book (though the Creature is riddled with inaccuracies). Too bad they'll forget all about it when Beck says that Pawlenty or Bachmann will make a great President once his marching orders come down. I'm just being realistic about the long run with this guy and I make it a goal to remind everyone to not get too friendly and trusting of Beck. He still works for Murdoch and does as he is told. Do you think Beck picked the show's contents? LOL

Some of the posts on this thread are CONFIRMATION that Beck's goal is to rope in people in this movement. And it's working.

 

[FrankRep]

Threads devoted to Beck, good or bad, upsets me. He's a fake, a shill, a pied piper, etc.

Debra Medina should have said: "I'm NOT a 9/11 Truther." I know that's what you're pissed about.

 

[devil21]

Debra Medina should have said: "I'm NOT a 9/11 Truther." I know that's what you're pissed about.

That's also part of it.

I tend to not support those that call me a terrorist though. Why do you?

Glenn Beck calls Paul supporters "domestic terrorists". My, what short memories we have!


Go ahead, make excuses for why he's different now.

He spent the entire 2008 election dumping on us, sabotaged Medina's campaign for his buddy Rick Perry, and now that a Democrat is in the WH, he's "exposing" all the "evil" and therefore is suddenly a good guy to be trusted? That's serious mental gymnastics to now support the same guy that ripped on us relentlessly only a few years ago, when it mattered.

 

[FrankRep]

That's also part of it.

I tend to not support those that call me a terrorist though. Why do you?

Glenn Beck calls Paul supporters "domestic terrorists". My, what short memories we have!

Guy Fawkes = Terrorist. Did you forget?

Ron Paul uses Guy Fawkes to fire up campaign and raise $4.3m in a day


Guy Fawkes, a 17th-century English mercenary and terrorist who tried to blow up the Houses of Parliament, is an unlikely figurehead for a US Republican presidential candidate.

But Ron Paul is neither a run-of-the-mill Republican nor a typical presidential aspirant.

His supporters announced yesterday that they had smashed Republican fundraising records by hauling in a total of $4.3 million (£2 million) for his campaign from more than 37,000 donors over the previous 24 hours.

And they did it online, through the website ThisNovember5th.com, where Mr Paul’s speeches have been mashed up with clips of the film V for Vendetta, in which a sinister – but ultimately heroic – terrorist modeled on Fawkes destroys a fascist government in Britain. “Remember, remember, the fifth of November” is moved from British nursery rhyme to a campaign slogan in America.

 

[devil21]

^^^^^^^^
Like I said, mental gymnastics. Thanks for proving my point. I guess some weak minds were bound for fall for it.