MT-SWAT grenades home, make no arrests and badly burn 12 year old girl in the process.

[heavenlyboy34]

Don't have to. Do you believe everything you read? When I type "Ron Paul" in my google bar and press the space bar and it starts giving me suggestions, the seventh suggestion down says "Ron Paul racist" with links to "proof" in his newsletters. Unbelievable. When my dad was my age he used to be able to purchase dynamite for use on his land. He would probably be on a watch-list as a terrorist if he whispered the word "explosives" now. We have fear-mongering articles, probably like the one you list above to thank for our "safely controlled" world now.

Wait-your dad bought dynamite? Reported.

 

[paulbot24]

More gems from our nanny media:
"Nitrous oxide is also used in race cars to boost engine power. So, you know, it's a dangerous substance," Dr. Stratyner said. "...there is evidence that abusing nitrous oxide causes "dark holes" in the brain, in areas that have been deprived of oxygen and brain cells have been destroyed." My god, isn't this what they give you at the dentist office? They give "race car fuel" to our children before they fill their cavities? Screw meth labs, I can't believe the dentist offices aren't exploding with all this rocket fuel stuff!

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504763_...ter-inhaling-nitrous-oxide-what-are-whippets/

 

[mad cow]

Don't have to. Do you believe everything you read? When I type "Ron Paul" in my google bar and press the space bar and it starts giving me suggestions, the seventh suggestion down says "Ron Paul racist" with links to "proof" in his newsletters. Unbelievable. When my dad was my age he used to be able to purchase dynamite for use on his land. He would probably be on a watch-list as a terrorist if he whispered the word "explosives" now. We have fear-mongering articles, probably like the one you list above to thank for our "safely controlled" world now.

Meth lab explosion shatters Fresno neighborhood
By Angel Moreno - The Fresno Bee
Thursday, Oct. 04, 2012 | 09:21 PM
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A meth lab in a Fresno home exploded Thursday, destroying the house, damaging neighboring homes and leaving one man critically burned, authorities said.

The home on the 4200 block of North Katy Avenue west of Highway 99 was turned into a drug lab by a Mexican cartel, who had apparently rented it within the last 30 days, said Ben Buford, special agent in charge with the state Department of Justice Bureau of Investigation.

Buford said investigators believe the 11:40 a.m. explosion was caused when fumes from acetone, used to process methamphetamine, were ignited by a spark. The house had been sealed to prevent fumes from escaping, he said.

The blast blew off the back walls and set the home on fire. The garage door at the front of the house was blown off its frame.

Neighbors said the explosion felt like an earthquake. Windows of at least five neighboring houses were shattered by the force of the blast.

The house next door suffered extensive damage to the roof and kitchen as windows and doors were smashed and kitchen cabinets were blown off walls.

"I was laying in bed and I seen a big ball of fire," said the neighbor, who identified himself as Johnny and declined to give his last name. "My wife and kids started screaming in the other room."

The man said he got his family out of their house uninjured. The American Red Cross was assisting the family of four with shelter, food and water.

Buford said one man inside the blast house was severely burned and is in critical condition at Community Regional Medical Center. Two other people inside the home at the time of the explosion escaped and are being sought, he said.


THE REPORTER CAN BE REACHED AT (559) 441-6165 OR [email protected].


Here,I'll copy the story so you don't have to click my link.
Local news story from last week?MK-ULTRA/CIA disinformation campaign?
Why don't you call the reporter and find out.

 

[tangent4ronpaul]

When my dad was my age he used to be able to purchase dynamite for use on his land. He would probably be on a watch-list as a terrorist if he whispered the word "explosives" now.

A guy I used to know told me that he used to be able to walk into farm and ranch supply stores in the '60s and buy TNT over the counter without showing ID and with no questions asked. Then again, in the 60s you used to be able to get on airplanes with pistols strapped to your hip. They had to be unloaded, though. In earlier decades, they didn't have to be unloaded...

Imagine how different 9/11 would have been if the passengers hadn't been disarmed first...

There are some forms of opium that are legal too, IIRC. I heard that somewhere...

I think you are talking about something else, but Nubain is the only unscheduled narcotic. It doesn't give you the euphoric buzz other narcotics do but it will take care of major pain. If you are asking your doc for painkillers for a medical stockpile - this is he one to ask for. It's an injectable.

-t

 

[paulbot24]

Let the record reflect that I've read your article and I'm still wondering when a real libertarian comment is going to appear from you. If you read my post before, you'll remember I said there are plenty of household solvents that are flammable. The article mentions that this explosion was caused by acetone and a spark. If acetone and a spark constitute a meth lab and a danger to society than I hope you never have a girlfriend that wants to change her nail polish while you light up or you're likely to all be killed. It's this kind of thinking that will make it a federal offense to buy the materials needed to remodel a house. "Sir, do you have a permit to purchase that paint thinner?" Jesus. I loved your closer. "Why don't I call the reporter and find out?" Why would anybody call a reporter to find out the truth? Uh oh, is that too MK-Ultra sounding for you?

 

[mad cow]

Well,I have a 1.75 liter bottle of Rum on my kitchen counter,hitting the Cuba Libras tonight,but I only have one shot glass there,thank God,I wouldn't want to die in a fiery inferno.

 

[paulbot24]

Well,I have a 1.75 liter bottle of Rum on my kitchen counter,hitting the Cuba Libras tonight,but I only have one shot glass there,thank God,I wouldn't want to die in a fiery inferno.

I'll have a shot of rum with you. Maybe we both could use a shot or two. I'll keep my lighter in my pocket. Just in case....

 

[Pericles]

In one common version of the Threat Matrix, a total of 1-16 points means that the supposed threat is considered "SWAT optional"; 17-24 points means that the SWAT commander should be consulted; if the score is 25 points or higher, SWAT deployment is "mandatory." Some individual criteria dictate "mandatory" SWAT deployment; for instance, if the subject is believed to possess an automatic, semi-auto, or bolt/lever action rifle, or explosives. Even the use of home "fortifications" — such as burglar bars — is awarded "double point value” in calculating the potential threat to that most precious of all social goods, “officer safety.”

That's probably every person here.

I take that as a challenge. Anybody know the highest score I can get?

 

[GunnyFreedom]

"If we're wrong or made a mistake, then we're going to take care of it," he said. "But if it determines we're not, then we'll go with that. When we do this, we want to ensure the safety of not only the officers, but the residents inside."

Wow. How do these people not vomit when telling such stupendous lies?

Don't forget that most states have passed a "good faith exception to the exclusionary rule."

 

[heavenlyboy34]

Don't forget that most states have passed a "good faith exception to the exclusionary rule."

SMH.

 

[jtstellar]

i have a question in mind.. so what if we don't care about the 'safety of the officers'.. wtf you gonna do, ya'all quit? and do what? become trash pickers?

it's a shitty job.. take it or leave it. why do i have to sacrifice my safety for yours?

 

[GunnyFreedom]

i have a question in mind.. so what if we don't care about the 'safety of the officers'.. wtf you gonna do, ya'all quit? and do what? become trash pickers?

it's a shitty job.. take it or leave it. why do i have to sacrifice my safety for yours?

Except police officer is an extraordinarily safe job, statistically. And would be even more safe if they didn't run around just blowing people and animals away in the support and execution of blatantly unconstitutional laws. Just like America's foreign policy makes America less safe, police enforcement policy makes police less safe. Had that been an actual meth lab, then the entire squad of police would likely be dead, but if they had properly executed a search warrant without the pyrotechnics, even if it were a meth lab they'd be fine. The vast majority of police deaths and injuries are self inflicted through ignorance negligence or incompetence, but even counting those police don't even make the top 10 most dangerous professions. Remove the traffic accidents, friendly fire, and pure ignorance (like detonating pyrotechnics in a suspected meth lab) and police probably wouldn't even make the top 100.

You forgot, we don't buy propaganda on this forum. We deal in facts.

ETA - I saw jtstellar's post from the wrong perspective. I see now that we agree. The post still applies to the apologists though, just not to jtstellar.

 

[heavenlyboy34]

This is the headline for the story over at Fark.com.

SWAT team raids home seeking non-existent meth lab. Lousy homeowners upset that their daughter was burned by a flash grenade instead of grateful no one was killed

Here is a link to the comment section ( Not some very happy comments);

http://www.fark.com/comments/737883...grenade-instead-of-grateful-no-one-was-killed

"I would like to see whoever threw those grenades in my daughter's room be reprimanded," she said. "If anybody else did that it would be aggravated assault. I just want to see that the city is held accountable for what they did to my children."

Read more: http://billingsgazette.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/grenade-burns-sleeping-girl-as-swat-team-raids-home/article_8bc67054-464d-5951-a5a1-003d4ed02d99.html#ixzz29CeDB6c7

"Reprimanded"? WTF? They severely burn your little girl in her own bedroom and you just want them "reprimanded"? Dammit, lady! WTF is wrong with you? I would want a helluva lot more than a fucking reprimand.

 

[heavenlyboy34]

Except police officer is an extraordinarily safe job, statistically. And would be even more safe if they didn't run around just blowing people and animals away in the support and execution of blatantly unconstitutional laws. Just like America's foreign policy makes America less safe, police enforcement policy makes police less safe. Had that been an actual meth lab, then the entire squad of police would likely be dead, but if they had properly executed a search warrant without the pyrotechnics, even if it were a meth lab they'd be fine. The vast majority of police deaths and injuries are self inflicted through ignorance negligence or incompetence, but even counting those police don't even make the top 10 most dangerous professions. Remove the traffic accidents, friendly fire, and pure ignorance (like detonating pyrotechnics in a suspected meth lab) and police probably wouldn't even make the top 100.

You forgot, we don't buy propaganda on this forum. We deal in facts.

This^^

 

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P.s.

In Bosnia police officers get beaten often "in line of duty" too so things get balanced out. People keep it fair more or less. It is small country with relativley small cities so everyone knows everyone and everyone knowe that everyone else is armed so...

 

[Anti Federalist]

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[anaconda]

Money bomb for civil suits and lobbying for criminal prosecution? Or chip in or something? If the Revolution could come together on just one of these high profile cases, and kick some ass, we would become a force to be reckoned with in these matters.

 

[acptulsa]

The problem is these are usually, FEDERALLY Funded. That's where the trouble ALL Starts.

Do as we say, enforce/crack-down and the DHS, DEA, ATF, and a slew of other behemoth agencies from the DC Metro region will send you all the goodies your terror department needs, courtesy of the taxpayers themselves.

And what did Americans expect to happen when they turned control of the country over to the military industrial complex?

 

[phill4paul]

If they don't start policing themselves soon I think that soon someone will begin doing it for them.

 

[Philhelm]

I take that as a challenge. Anybody know the highest score I can get?

Well, I'd imagine you've racked up at least 6,282 points; one point for each post on this site. You're a veteran and I'm assuming you own firearms, so that brings it even higher.