More Evidence Proves Nutrition Beats Vaccines in Preventing Disease

[Chester Copperpot]

$#@! you, $#@!.

Angela Thornton Canny
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Linden MI 48451
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ANd it isn't even the first time I've posted it here, Einstein.

Even though Ive known your name is Angela for years I never think of it because 'ATC' was the old stock symbol for Atari Corp. on the American Stock Exchange and when I read your name in my mind I always read it as 'Angel ATC'

 

[angelatc]

Even though Ive known your name is Angela for years I never think of it because 'ATC' was the old stock symbol for Atari Corp. on the American Stock Exchange and when I read your name in my mind I always read it as 'Angel ATC'

That makes me sad, because Amy..OOPS I mean AmyPi... told me the same thing.

But you can call me Angie.

 

[Chester Copperpot]

That makes me sad, because Amy....I mean AmyPi told me the same thing.

AmyPi knew about Atari Corp's stock symbol????

 

[Natural Citizen]

I have no idea what that means. What I mean is that you're here literally freaking out because my keyboard missed a Y and spellcheck didn't flag it in context.

And note that DonnaY still hasn't provided the study that her source says doesn't exist but it the basis for the entire thread. That's the same kind of help that people who call CPS give to society. After all, they just want to help.

Instead, JFK is gonna dox me, you're frantic about your personal info being released, and DonnaY is screeching accusations that I support evidence based modern medicine.

I was just asking a question. I made no claim other than the anomaly appears to be consistent and repetitive in specific context. If your keyboard's busted, then, your keyboard's busted.

 

[angelatc]

There's no profit in cures. Only treatment.

^^^From the same crowd that is currently freaking out over the HPV vaccine, which prevents the #1 cause of cervical cancer. Cost? $500 for the series. How much do you think treatment for cervical cancer costs?

 

[Chester Copperpot]

I was just asking a question. If you're keyboards busted, then, your keyboards busted.

FWIW, my keyboard isnt busted but nowadays all the keyboards seem to suck.. Im always typing f.ucked up and im an excellent speller and grammar person... all the keyboards now adays are flat... they seem lifeless.. back in the day the keys were raised and had clicky springs and all that...

 

[angelatc]

AmyPi knew about Atari Corp's stock symbol????

Ha ha - I don't remember - but she thought my name was Angel for a long time.

 

[Chester Copperpot]

^^^From the same crowd that is currently freaking out over the HPV vaccine, which prevents the #1 cause of cervical cancer. Cost? $500 for the series. How much do you think treatment for cervical cancer costs?

even though Im against vaccines because of their added unsafe ingredients like mercury etc... As a recent patient for HPV related cancer, had I known this could have happened I would gladly have opted for the vaccine instead. If I had a son I would explain everything to him as well... However I think there would be less resistance if vaccines were made better like they were back in the day.

 

[angelatc]

even though Im against vaccines because of their added unsafe ingredients like mercury etc... .

Aside from the fact that the HPV vaccine doesn't have mercury in it, the mercury in vaccines isn't the same mercury that's in thermometers. Your body can metabolize it. It's like the difference between drinking vodka and drinking rubbing alcohol.

 

[Natural Citizen]

^^^From the same crowd that is currently freaking out over the HPV vaccine, which prevents the #1 cause of cervical cancer. Cost? $500 for the series. How much do you think treatment for cervical cancer costs?

I don't know. I'm not anti-vaccine, per se. I'm just selective.

HPVs are sexually transmitted. And I think about 70 or 80 percent of cervical cancer is caused by these HPV sexually transmitted diseases. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Seems like the root problem is a social disease to me. Personal choices.

So, then, why should I (if I had a daughter) condone the idea of vaccination at the end of the barrel of a government gun because of the personal indulgences of others?

My argument about them isn't about their safety, per se.

 

[angelatc]

I don't know. I'm not anti-vaccine, per se. I'm just selective.


My argument about them isn't really about their safety.

Your original argument was that Big pHARMa would never develop a cure for cancer because the treatment was more profitable. My point was that modern medicine has recently released a vaccine that prevents the #1 cause of cervical cancer.

 

[lilymc]

You know what works for preventing disease? A clean healthy diet, exercise, taking care of yourself, avoiding stress... in other words, getting back to the basics. But instead, most Americans are fat, sick, addicted to eating junk, and on all sorts of medications.....when the answer is so simple. The good news is, more and more people are finally starting to wake up and realize what's actually going on. And I love that. Unfortunately, talking about nutrition and natural treatments *gasp* makes one the enemy to those who approve of the drug-selling, money making status quo.

 

[Natural Citizen]

Your original argument was that Big pHARMa would never develop a cure for cancer because the treatment was more profitable. My point was that modern medicine has recently released a vaccine that prevents the #1 cause of cervical cancer.

No, that wasn't my argument. My argument was against adherence policy. Which you're neglecting, but it's okay. I don't care. It'll come up again anyway.

Although I did insinuate that profit is largely in treatment as opposed to cures by saying that there is no profit in cures. Only treatment.

Now. Let's talk about profit in terms of this vaccine. Do you agree that the government should be able to force consumption/sale of this product?

 

[lilymc]

Seems like the root problem is a social disease to me. Personal choices.

So, then, why should I (if I had a daughter) condone the idea of vaccination at the end of the barrel of a government gun because of the personal indulgences of others?

How dare you talk about personal responsibility and making wise choices!!!! Just shut up and take the drugs we want to sell you.

I highlighted root problem, because that's the key thing that is missing... but that's probably a good topic for another thread.

 

[Natural Citizen]

You know what works for preventing disease? A clean healthy diet, exercise, taking care of yourself, avoiding stress... in other words, getting back to the basics. But instead, most Americans are fat, sick, addicted to eating junk, and on all sorts of medications.....when the answer is so simple. The good news is, more and more people are finally starting to wake up and realize what's actually going on. And I love that. Unfortunately, talking about nutrition and natural treatments *gasp* makes one the enemy to those who approve of the drug-selling, money making status quo.

And they're screwing everything that moves. That's what I meant by the social disease. There hasn't been a cure for that, yet. Only treatment. This HPV vaccine, for example.

 

[Natural Citizen]

How dare you talk about personal responsibility and making wise choices!!!! Just shut up and take the drugs we want to sell you.

I highlighted root problem, because that's the key thing that is missing... but that's probably a good topic for another thread.

Nope. Speak up.

 

[lilymc]

Nope. Speak up.

Nope to what? Starting a new thread on getting to the root of these problems?

 

[Natural Citizen]

Nope to what? Starting a new thread on getting to the root of these problems?

Do it here. We don't need a new topic. Say what's on your mind when the thought comes.

Of course you can start a thread if you want. But still say what's on your mind when it presents itself. Discussion is good. And necessary.

Substantive debate on the evidence by knowledgeable proponents of all points of view are encouraged. Or should be anyway.

 

[Ender]

You know what works for preventing disease? A clean healthy diet, exercise, taking care of yourself, avoiding stress... in other words, getting back to the basics. But instead, most Americans are fat, sick, addicted to eating junk, and on all sorts of medications.....when the answer is so simple. The good news is, more and more people are finally starting to wake up and realize what's actually going on. And I love that. Unfortunately, talking about nutrition and natural treatments *gasp* makes one the enemy to those who approve of the drug-selling, money making status quo.

Yep.

I'm a natural health nut. That's how I was raised and how I live; I am extremely healthy and try and keep myself informed on a continuous basis.

My family is also very healthy- I have said before that my grandmother, who is in her 70's, looks 50, at the most, walks several miles every day, and has one of the sharpest minds on the planet.

If others want to vax- go for it, but do NOT try to force it on me or my loved ones.

 

[Natural Citizen]

Ah well. As far as the HPV vaccine goes, I'd tend to agree with the statesman's thought on such things. When the morality of the country changes, it will reflect on the laws. Laws will not correct the fundamental problem and the fundamental problem is the morality of the people. Forcing consumption of this particular pharmaceutical product by law will not cure the fundamental problem. It's only going to encourage it.

Of course, one could make the same case with others, too.