MoneyBomb!!! Analysis and Discussion for 2012

[Andromeda]

I like the idea about the pledging a certain amount of money every time something happens. In this economy, I'm not sure how feasible that would be. I could barely afford to give $20.12 on short notice and I have a JOB! There would also be the difficulty of keeping track of who said they would donate what and contacting them to remind them to contribute. I'm sure most people don't all follow the news like crazy (I know I don't) and several things may slip through the cracks.

Sure, nothing will be a perfect system and I like the idea here. Is there a simple and cost effective way to pull it off is my question.

Also - in line with all the "what day" and "to holiday or not to holiday"... keep it near a pay day. I'm serious about that. Had I seen the money bomb information within a day of getting paid, I would have contributed closer to $100, not just $20.12. Instead, I went out to eat a few times, spent some money on Starbucks... you get the idea. (Edit) If you're going to do something on a holiday, don't make it exclusive for that day - allow it to carry into the following work days. I think this is where we can also have that "good deeds" stuff come into play locally.

My mother always tells me "KISS: Keep It Simple, Stupid". And, every time I don't remember that, I always get in over my head with a project. With as many people as we plan to have involved, Keeping it simple is the way to go. Find a way to do the pledge thing in conjunction with quarterly money bombs and then, of course, an ad hoc one when he announces and I think you'll keep this thing pretty structured.

 

[RP4Pres2008]

Excellent posts so far in this thread. I am getting excited thinking about the possibilities.

Is there unanimous agreement that the next moneybomb should be AFTER Ron announces?

 

[Andromeda]

I think someone should make a poll to ask these types of questions to allow people to contribute over a period of time. That way, we can include more people on the vote and not just the people who were here today in the forum.

Maybe a poll for each point. Like whether to do the "good deeds" stuff on local levels on holidays as a group and push that as a national and local level campaign. Another for the money bomb after he announces (assuming he's going to run). Another for the idea to have money bombs on holidays to see if people would generally like to do something like that. another for the pledge idea... you get the point. Take the biggies from this thread, make some polls, and then combine that data for a larger poll.

Sounds a little tedious, but I think that will give us a good idea of the direction in which we would like to head as an organized group.

Who knows?! Maybe we should just pick a day out of the month and make our own holiday out of it... LOL

 

[Krugerrand]

I like the idea about the pledging a certain amount of money every time something happens. In this economy, I'm not sure how feasible that would be. I could barely afford to give $20.12 on short notice and I have a JOB! There would also be the difficulty of keeping track of who said they would donate what and contacting them to remind them to contribute. I'm sure most people don't all follow the news like crazy (I know I don't) and several things may slip through the cracks.

Sure, nothing will be a perfect system and I like the idea here. Is there a simple and cost effective way to pull it off is my question.

Also - in line with all the "what day" and "to holiday or not to holiday"... keep it near a pay day. I'm serious about that. Had I seen the money bomb information within a day of getting paid, I would have contributed closer to $100, not just $20.12. Instead, I went out to eat a few times, spent some money on Starbucks... you get the idea. (Edit) If you're going to do something on a holiday, don't make it exclusive for that day - allow it to carry into the following work days. I think this is where we can also have that "good deeds" stuff come into play locally.

My mother always tells me "KISS: Keep It Simple, Stupid". And, every time I don't remember that, I always get in over my head with a project. With as many people as we plan to have involved, Keeping it simple is the way to go. Find a way to do the pledge thing in conjunction with quarterly money bombs and then, of course, an ad hoc one when he announces and I think you'll keep this thing pretty structured.

Okay ... here's the best I've come up with so far. ....

Obama actions trigger "Sling Shot" donations of $20.12.
Support Liberty in National Government (I'm not sold on that if somebody can come up w/ something better.)

When ever Obama signs anti-Liberty legislation, veto's pro-liberty legislation ... or any other list of things that would make this not too overwhelming, but effective .... those who can commit to the advance pledging donate $20.12.

Ideally we could get at least 1,000 people on board. Then, whenever RP is being interviewed on something he can slip in that another $20,120 raised was raised for liberty in response to such and such.

"Sling shot" also has a nice David v/ Goliath feel to it.

It would be a nice twist that every action the opposition takes would be generating money against them.

 

[Austin]

Okay ... here's the best I've come up with so far. ....

Obama actions trigger "Sling Shot" donations of $20.12.
Support Liberty in National Government (I'm not sold on that if somebody can come up w/ something better.)

When ever Obama signs anti-Liberty legislation, veto's pro-liberty legislation ... or any other list of things that would make this not too overwhelming, but effective .... those who can commit to the advance pledging donate $20.12.

Ideally we could get at least 1,000 people on board. Then, whenever RP is being interviewed on something he can slip in that another $20,120 raised was raised for liberty in response to such and such.

"Sling shot" also has a nice David v/ Goliath feel to it.

It would be a nice twist that every action the opposition takes would be generating money against them.

This, in addition to regular moneybombs, could be potentially great. I'd sign up for it for sure.

 

[speciallyblend]

Excellent posts so far in this thread. I am getting excited thinking about the possibilities.

Is there unanimous agreement that the next moneybomb should be AFTER Ron announces?

i hope this is the bottom line on any ideas!!!

 

[Nate-ForLiberty]

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...h)-Moneybomb-day-before-the-first-Prez-Debate

June 6th D-Day

 

[Christopher David]

I think it wise to decide on our major moneybombs now and start prominently advertising them at least at the top of RPF where everyone can see. Promote those as the 'official' grassroots moneybombs. Maybe have a SurveyMonkey app or forum thread for people who want to help out join a team of organizers where various tasks are delegated, coordinating via RPF or project management software like Asana.

I like the idea of April 15 and July 4 moneybombs. They would get Q2 and Q3 fundraising off to a strong start, respectively.

Edit: June 6 seems cool too.

 

[PermanentSleep]

Okay ... here's the best I've come up with so far. ....

Obama actions trigger "Sling Shot" donations of $20.12.
Support Liberty in National Government (I'm not sold on that if somebody can come up w/ something better.)

When ever Obama signs anti-Liberty legislation, veto's pro-liberty legislation ... or any other list of things that would make this not too overwhelming, but effective .... those who can commit to the advance pledging donate $20.12.

Ideally we could get at least 1,000 people on board. Then, whenever RP is being interviewed on something he can slip in that another $20,120 raised was raised for liberty in response to such and such.

"Sling shot" also has a nice David v/ Goliath feel to it.

It would be a nice twist that every action the opposition takes would be generating money against them.

I really dig this idea. It's fantastic. There could be some great videos made promoting the idea with the David and Goliath references. Start a thread for this if you get a lot of good responses, because I for one think it would be a great plug for Ron in any interviews.

We should probably sling shot donate whenever the DHS comes up with more nonsense, since they hold considerable influence over our liberties and lack thereof.

 

[Andromeda]

Sling Shot sounds interesting but I think $20.12 is a bit steep for me. Not sure I could actually make that kind of commitment. I think we should let people pledge what is suitable to their budget with the minimum being $1. Just sayin' - hard times.

Also - how would this type of thing be managed, executed, etc.? It sounds great, but I think it's going to open a huge can of worms if we can't figure out how to manage something like that.

Anyone here have any experience operating pledges through online means?

I'm with Christopher Pille here. Let's get the biggies set and then hammer out the smaller stuff.

 

[Maximus]

Sling Shot sounds interesting but I think $20.12 is a bit steep for me. Not sure I could actually make that kind of commitment. I think we should let people pledge what is suitable to their budget with the minimum being $1. Just sayin' - hard times.

Also - how would this type of thing be managed, executed, etc.? It sounds great, but I think it's going to open a huge can of worms if we can't figure out how to manage something like that.

Anyone here have any experience operating pledges through online means?

I'm with Christopher Pille here. Let's get the biggies set and then hammer out the smaller stuff.

I like the slingshot idea.

We could have $20.12 be the normal donation, and a level of $10.11 (that hopefully others could match). We don't want $1 or $2 donations because of transaction fees, it costs the campaign money when you send only a buck or two.

Also in lieu of the Giffords shooting, we need to be careful with how we go about this.

 

[trey4sports]

the first debate is may 2 and i think we need a moneybomb right after the debate (maybe 2 or 3 days apart) because the debates will be HUGE for growing our numbers and waking people up

 

[Nate-ForLiberty]

the first debate is may 2 and i think we need a moneybomb right after the debate (maybe 2 or 3 days apart) because the debates will be HUGE for growing our numbers and waking people up

Ron is going to announce sometime in April supposedly. Having a moneybomb in May doesn't give enough promotion time. June 6th does.

 

[nayjevin]

What about incorporating the slingshot idea with http://www.unfaircoverage.com? donate when smear pieces come out and go to the site to enter in the amount you donated and what article/video you donated it in response to... ???

then reports would show how much each media outlet has earned for ron paul

 

[anaconda]

$700,000 was the last sentence today in a CNN article talking about RP's upcoming visit to New Hampshire. No headlines yet.

 

[trey4sports]

Ron is going to announce sometime in April supposedly. Having a moneybomb in May doesn't give enough promotion time. June 6th does.

Yeah I thought about that as well, and my line of thinking is that newbies and people not familiar with our movement will be fired up after the first debate and with a moneybomb so close to the debate we can carry a lot of momentum. On the other hand, a moneybomb that is further away will certainly have more promotion time but some of the momentum will be gone.

 

[Andromeda]

No one knows when he is going to officially announce. People are saying April and March, but no one really knows. If we can decide on a date now, there will still be promotional time... It's best to strike when the iron's hot, right? If people are all fired up after a debate, most definitely do it then.

In regard to the Sling Shot idea... I see what you mean about the $1 and $2 with the fees. That didn't even cross my mind. But this shows why the pledge concerns me. Yes, it will raise a good chunk of money but you don't want people to feel excluded just because they lost their job or whatever their financial situation is. And that type of deal at $10 or $20 would end up doing that, I think. I know that I couldn't afford a $10 per whatever pledge. I like the idea, but... I just think there has to be some way to incorporate it and include a lot of people.

 

[ItsTime]

The main issue is getting Ron Paul the MONEY EARLY. We got him the money too late each time.

 

[Christopher David]

Could also be worth spreading the idea of a money bomb/barrage as soon as Ron announces. Go all out from day one. You know he'll get a ton of donations right away anyway, but it would send a powerful message if we can make Ron's initial haul dwarf that of other candidates.

 

[Austin]

What about incorporating the slingshot idea with http://www.unfaircoverage.com? donate when smear pieces come out and go to the site to enter in the amount you donated and what article/video you donated it in response to... ???

then reports would show how much each media outlet has earned for ron paul

Good idea. Actually, great idea.