MoneyBomb!!! Analysis and Discussion for 2012

[wstrucke]

I have a solution to the "disparate, unrelated, unorganized, herding cats" problem -- there has to be a specific person or a specific group of volunteers tasked with coordinating between the grassroots and the official campaign. That's the best way we can be effective -- that way the announcements can go out at the right time and we don't work against each other.

 

[UtahApocalypse]

I have a solution to the "disparate, unrelated, unorganized, herding cats" problem -- there has to be a specific person or a specific group of volunteers tasked with coordinating between the grassroots and the official campaign. That's the best way we can be effective -- that way the announcements can go out at the right time and we don't work against each other.

Cannot be done legally. that is our biggest obstacle.

 

[nayjevin]

Perhaps a "Frequency of MoneyBomb" public poll to settle what looks to be a basic question?

ya definitely. as much as democracy sucks the results are a good guage of where the crowd stands.

 

[Mordan]

too many moneybombs == no moneybombs.

 

[Bobster]

I like the benchmark goals idea... just don't want that to bite us in the tail when Faux News gets ahold of it and says "they didn't meet their quota for the day" and then laughs. Should be a reasonable number for each day.

Reminds me of the old business adage:

Under commit, over deliver.

 

[nayjevin]

there should be spikes when he announces and during debates, maybe just focus on those!??

 

[ronpaulhawaii]

there should be spikes when he announces and during debates, maybe just focus on those!??

I wonder that those times will be fertile for more traditional forms of fundraising.

I'm partial to the once per quarter thing and am intrigued by both TaxDay and the July thing...

 

[ronpaulhawaii]

there should be spikes when he announces and during debates, maybe just focus on those!??

I wonder that those times will be fertile for more traditional forms of fundraising.

I'm partial to the once per quarter thing and am intrigued by both TaxDay and the July thing...

 

[Andromeda]

I'll say it again that Quarterly seems like a good idea. It gives time and the appearance of organization.

If we can't work "directly" and "officially" with the campaign, then it's a little tough to do much organizing. Just throwing out ideas:
- Someone from the campaign could check a specific thread on a certain site or
- Someone from the campaign could check a specific FB site, not necessarily post anything.
- Someone from our side could post on a specific thread on one of their forums or something like that
- Someone from our side could leave a voice message, send a text, something like that.

That person doesn't have to have an official title per se to avoid the legal implications... but, could be someone that the campaign would recognize as someone who serves as liaison in that respect without having any real power at all. Just a little bird tweeting...

Would something like that work?

 

[speciallyblend]

edit if folks cannot tell i have had it

 

[UtahApocalypse]

I'll say it again that Quarterly seems like a good idea. It gives time and the appearance of organization.

If we can't work "directly" and "officially" with the campaign, then it's a little tough to do much organizing. Just throwing out ideas:
- Someone from the campaign could check a specific thread on a certain site or
- Someone from the campaign could check a specific FB site, not necessarily post anything.
- Someone from our side could post on a specific thread on one of their forums or something like that
- Someone from our side could leave a voice message, send a text, something like that.

That person doesn't have to have an official title per se to avoid the legal implications... but, could be someone that the campaign would recognize as someone who serves as liaison in that respect without having any real power at all. Just a little bird tweeting...

Would something like that work?

I envision it much like the LibertyPAC bomb went. The idea was started by the grassroots, as much oof the work was. LibertyPAC did acknowledge the event but they were not the ones directly in charge of it.

 

[itshappening]

Josh should just pick one from the competing ideas and push it on RPF

either Josh or Trevor - who led the way last time

the criteria has to be a memorable day and something that can be marketed, plus give enough time for us to get the word out 6-8 weeks.

 

[Andromeda]

RE: How the LibertyPAC Bomb went this time.
That works to a certain extend but does not necessarily help for major coordinating like how we would like to have a money bomb when he announces. It also does not help us organize directly with the campaign. There has to be a "middle man" so to speak - even if there isn't an actual exchange of words. It should be something simple, direct, and capable of helping us come together with the campaign without running the risk of various legal issues.

 

[ronpaulhawaii]

I think we can all rest assured that people with official titles read this forum. I think the official organization stepped up pretty quickly this time and followed our lead...

 

[tangent4ronpaul]

started a thread with this yesterday, but it didn't take off.

Moneybomb matches and momentum

This is kind of weird. I posted my match offer in competition with malkusm's, which had momentum, thinking ti wold be a minor glitch as I was offering a better match of 1:1 vs his 1:5, but I got no takers the first hour and started promoting it. Granted, a lot of people were pretty much tapped out and it's the end of the day. OTOH, donations overall really took off in the evening - though not so much here. probably due to the viral marketing and ppl getting home and dinnertime.

Anyway, I'm wondering if I derailed his match offer. I really thought I might steal one cycle from him and it would be over quick. We should really look at the dynamics of this, average contrabution, repeat donors, stuff like that.

Any thoughts? I thought I was helping, yet I'm not so sure in the overall effect. His matches seemed to be winding down a bit, but that's subjective. Any thoughts?

Might also want to look at viral marketing spread so we can do better next time. Also, the effects of mini-bombs at certain times, like the 10-11pm thing.

My match was originally for 5 $20 donors, but I'm expanding that to 10 w/ 4 slots left in the 10-11pm window 1:1. His was open ended 1:5. What strategy works better?

Discussion?

-t

 

[PatriotOne]

Another thing I want to mention....

if this effort ends up being coordinated by the grassroots, I hope and frankly, they better be, a group of people that is above reproach. I know there are several senior members on this board that doesn't pass the muster with me and I am probably not alone. There are many money bombs I refuse to participate in because I don't trust the organizer.

 

[ronpaulhawaii]

Another thing I want to mention....

if this effort ends up being coordinated by the grassroots, I hope and frankly, they better be, a group of people that is above reproach. I know there are several senior members on this board that doesn't pass the muster with me and I am probably not alone. There are many money bombs I refuse to participate in because I don't trust the organizer.

I suppose we need to differentiate between RP bombs and others. The only common point of abuse potential is the email harvesting.

In that sense, we need a "Keeper of The List" for grassroots RPBombs, and I nominate Josh/Bryan/RPFs...

For other efforts, I think those will be decided in the free market of ideas...

 

[nayjevin]

[email protected]
if you want to help pledge numbers but don't need email reminders

or can just donate, without pledging. lots of people do that.

just to be clear, donations should always go to the official site, not any 3rd party.

 

[ronpaulhawaii]

started a thread with this yesterday, but it didn't take off.

Moneybomb matches and momentum

This is kind of weird. I posted my match offer in competition with malkusm's, which had momentum, thinking ti wold be a minor glitch as I was offering a better match of 1:1 vs his 1:5, but I got no takers the first hour and started promoting it. Granted, a lot of people were pretty much tapped out and it's the end of the day. OTOH, donations overall really took off in the evening - though not so much here. probably due to the viral marketing and ppl getting home and dinnertime.

Anyway, I'm wondering if I derailed his match offer. I really thought I might steal one cycle from him and it would be over quick. We should really look at the dynamics of this, average contrabution, repeat donors, stuff like that.

Any thoughts? I thought I was helping, yet I'm not so sure in the overall effect. His matches seemed to be winding down a bit, but that's subjective. Any thoughts?

Might also want to look at viral marketing spread so we can do better next time. Also, the effects of mini-bombs at certain times, like the 10-11pm thing.

My match was originally for 5 $20 donors, but I'm expanding that to 10 w/ 4 slots left in the 10-11pm window 1:1. His was open ended 1:5. What strategy works better?

Discussion?

-t

The situation is fluid, I remember multiple match threads in other bombs... Great work yesterday, thanks

 

[Wesker1982]

Has Ron said anything about yesterday yet?