Mom Diagnosed with ALS (Lou Gehrig's Disease)...Help?

Hi guys. I had forgotten about this thread completely until it was bumped, but thank you to Marty for bumping it. Thanks to everyone for the well wishes. Here is an update:

My mom has gotten progressively worse and it is now a foregone conclusion that she has less than a year to live. The modern medical establishment, once again proving its supreme knowledge, is baffled by how she has managed to make it 6.5 years when they projected three or four. She can barely walk at all (with a walker) and is essentially bedridden and has been for a few months now. The goal is for her to make it one more year so she can see both my brother and I graduate (him from high school, me from college). I am graduating a year early in hopes that she'll be there, which explains my sporadic absence from the forums as I have more than a full slate of classes.

Magicman: I read your links and did a bit of research on what you suggested and have subsequently ordered everything you suggested from Vitacost as it is cheaper than Whole Foods for the same supplements. I will let everyone know if anything helps.

For anyone reading this wondering what has actually helped for ALS: A Vitamin B supplement and Glucosamine, MSM, and Chondroitin are the only supplements that help at all, everything else, ranging from fish oil, krill oil, vitamin d, veggie blends, cleanses, multivitamins, restrictive (whole food) diet, and on and on and on has not helped. Thanks again everyone!

EDIT: For one irony in this whole thing, the ALS doctors we have met with are not themselves convinced it is ALS, making them as baffled as everyone else has been. Due to religious reasons, when my mom dies, she will not be receiving an autopsy when she dies, so no one will ever know what exactly she was afflicted with. So, when people ask me a year or so from now, "what did she die from?" All I'll be able to say is, "Your guess is as good as mine...seriously."
 
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Thank you very much for the informational update, TCE. I'm glad you've found some supplements to help, and genuinely very sorry to hear what has happened and how it's progressing. She must be very proud of you, and I hope she can make it to see you both graduate.

Good luck.
 
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IMO anyone with neurological disorder ought to make sure that they do not consume any aspartame it is in many foods anything marked "diet or light" on the label ought to be considered suspect. In many cases it does not even have to be on the label and they also tend to name the chemical components rather than call it aspartame.
 
TCE, please keep us updated on your mother's condition. I will do my best to find people who have overcome this condition. If you ordered capsules try opening them to have the powder digested instead of letting it be time-released.

Take a look at this article it opens up some ideas as to what is causing the problem. Maybe you want to share that with a naturopath.



http://www.focusonals.com/mutated_protein_contributes_to_lou_gehrig's.htm

These articles talk about the problem with low Superoxide Dismutase (naturally found in the body) and Lou Gehrig's Disease

http://www.lef.org/protocols/neurological/als_01.htm

http://ehsc.oregonstate.edu/Spotlight5

What is Superoxide Dismutase?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superoxide_dismutase

The second form of ALS, familial, is much more rare, occurring in only 5 percent to 10 percent of cases. Approximately 20 percent of familial ALS is caused by a genetic defect in an antioxidant enzyme called superoxide dismutase-1, or SOD (Sung JJ et al 2002; Rosen DR et al 1993). SOD's role in the body is to scavenge for unstable free radical molecules. When this enzyme is deficient, as in ALS, a buildup of free radicals may occur. The free radicals cause oxidative damage to nerve cells, eventually destroying them.


What is free radical damage?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free-radical_theory

There is a simple solution to a low SOD count or Superoxide Dismutase and that is Chaga Mushrooms. It might be able to fix the abnormality of nitric oxide that was explaned in the first article. They've been used for thousands of years in Siberia. Russia and China use it for tea. It is not expensive if you buy it in powder form.

This chart shows how Chaga has the highest amount of SOD it is thousands of times higher then the second SOD forming supplement.

http://www.mychaga.com/superoxide.aspx

This explains what Chaga does

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZGTaHLmC7g
 
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Hi guys. I had forgotten about this thread completely until it was bumped, but thank you to Marty for bumping it. Thanks to everyone for the well wishes. Here is an update:

My mom has gotten progressively worse and it is now a foregone conclusion that she has less than a year to live. ."

I am so sorry to hear that. You're both just too young to lose your Mom.
 
Hi guys. I had forgotten about this thread completely until it was bumped, but thank you to Marty for bumping it. Thanks to everyone for the well wishes. Here is an update:

My mom has gotten progressively worse and it is now a foregone conclusion that she has less than a year to live. The modern medical establishment, once again proving its supreme knowledge, is baffled by how she has managed to make it 6.5 years when they projected three or four. She can barely walk at all (with a walker) and is essentially bedridden and has been for a few months now. The goal is for her to make it one more year so she can see both my brother and I graduate (him from high school, me from college). I am graduating a year early in hopes that she'll be there, which explains my sporadic absence from the forums as I have more than a full slate of classes.

Magicman: I read your links and did a bit of research on what you suggested and have subsequently ordered everything you suggested from Vitacost as it is cheaper than Whole Foods for the same supplements. I will let everyone know if anything helps.

For anyone reading this wondering what has actually helped for ALS: A Vitamin B supplement and Glucosamine, MSM, and Chondroitin are the only supplements that help at all, everything else, ranging from fish oil, krill oil, vitamin d, veggie blends, cleanses, multivitamins, restrictive (whole food) diet, and on and on and on has not helped. Thanks again everyone!

EDIT: For one irony in this whole thing, the ALS doctors we have met with are not themselves convinced it is ALS, making them as baffled as everyone else has been. Due to religious reasons, when my mom dies, she will not be receiving an autopsy when she dies, so no one will ever know what exactly she was afflicted with. So, when people ask me a year or so from now, "what did she die from?" All I'll be able to say is, "Your guess is as good as mine...seriously."
As someone who is a part of the "modern medical establishment", I've followed this thread with interest. I feel for you about your mother's progress -- happy that she has lived longer than projected, sad that her condition has progressed worse.

Addressing a couple things that have baffled your doctors:
"How long do they have to live?" is a common question in the medical field, and for a lot of us it's one we dread. It's a question that often requires something that most physicians don't have. A crystal ball. Physicians that I have worked with often precede their discussions that they honestly cannot predict how long a family member will live, and that they can give an educated guess but by no means should it be considered a deadline. 3-5 years is, by the book, the median length of time between diagnosis and death. Many fall within that range, and many do not. Lou Gehrig himself lived for 2 years after being diagnosed. One of the premier pathology lecturers for the USMLE (the board exam that all physicians must take) claims to have been diagnosed with Lou Gehrig's Disease, only for the disease to regress. While rare, it's not unheard of. If your physicians are indeed baffled that your mother has lived longer than the textbook's stated median, they need not be.

Regarding whether your physicians know that your mother is suffering from ALS or not, I cannot pretend to know the situation but I can venture some guesses from my own experiences. As you have mentioned, autopsy is the only definitive way to diagnose that a person is suffering from ALS, lest a patient undergoes a nerve biopsy while still alive. So it becomes largely a clinical diagnosis. With a disease like ALS, it's sometimes hard to appreciate that the differential diagnosis is quite large. Certain diseases that mimic ALS are reversible, and are emphasized throughout this thread by people who believe from experience that the cure is a Tetracycline (more likely the patient had Lyme Disease) or Vitamin B12 (more likely the patient had Vitamin B12 deficiency). It's no intended disrespect to you, but I just have to question whether your physicians are "baffled" in their diagnosis, or whether they are just trying to double-check/triple-check/quadruple-check that they aren't missing a treatable diagnosis.

But on the subject of one of the more popular replies in the thread, if I tell a patient that they have an untreatable disease and they respond with "F you, I'll find my own treatment", I (and I would hope that most doctors) would be supportive and try to assist in that search. Truth is that allopathic medicine doesn't catch it all, and you never really know what might work. Some of the methods described in this thread did seem to provide temporary relief, and that's pretty important to not miss. With a disease deemed "currently untreatable" like ALS, no one should hold their patients back from trying anything.

I wish you and your mother the best, and I hope that she does get to see you at your graduation.
 
As someone who is a part of the "modern medical establishment", I've followed this thread with interest. I feel for you about your mother's progress -- happy that she has lived longer than projected, sad that her condition has progressed worse.

Addressing a couple things that have baffled your doctors:
"How long do they have to live?" is a common question in the medical field, and for a lot of us it's one we dread. It's a question that often requires something that most physicians don't have. A crystal ball. Physicians that I have worked with often precede their discussions that they honestly cannot predict how long a family member will live, and that they can give an educated guess but by no means should it be considered a deadline. 3-5 years is, by the book, the median length of time between diagnosis and death. Many fall within that range, and many do not. Lou Gehrig himself lived for 2 years after being diagnosed. One of the premier pathology lecturers for the USMLE (the board exam that all physicians must take) claims to have been diagnosed with Lou Gehrig's Disease, only for the disease to regress. While rare, it's not unheard of. If your physicians are indeed baffled that your mother has lived longer than the textbook's stated median, they need not be.

Regarding whether your physicians know that your mother is suffering from ALS or not, I cannot pretend to know the situation but I can venture some guesses from my own experiences. As you have mentioned, autopsy is the only definitive way to diagnose that a person is suffering from ALS, lest a patient undergoes a nerve biopsy while still alive. So it becomes largely a clinical diagnosis. With a disease like ALS, it's sometimes hard to appreciate that the differential diagnosis is quite large. Certain diseases that mimic ALS are reversible, and are emphasized throughout this thread by people who believe from experience that the cure is a Tetracycline (more likely the patient had Lyme Disease) or Vitamin B12 (more likely the patient had Vitamin B12 deficiency). It's no intended disrespect to you, but I just have to question whether your physicians are "baffled" in their diagnosis, or whether they are just trying to double-check/triple-check/quadruple-check that they aren't missing a treatable diagnosis.

But on the subject of one of the more popular replies in the thread, if I tell a patient that they have an untreatable disease and they respond with "F you, I'll find my own treatment", I (and I would hope that most doctors) would be supportive and try to assist in that search. Truth is that allopathic medicine doesn't catch it all, and you never really know what might work. Some of the methods described in this thread did seem to provide temporary relief, and that's pretty important to not miss. With a disease deemed "currently untreatable" like ALS, no one should hold their patients back from trying anything.

I wish you and your mother the best, and I hope that she does get to see you at your graduation.

Hey Golding. For the record, I was not the one who said "F you" in a post. My frustration has been directed toward the medical establishment and much less the people involved in it. I know, as is the case for most professions, that there are good people in the field. In fact, several people (by your post, I suspect you are among them), most of them nurses, we have seen are truly decent people who wanted to help in any way they could. Of course, there are some bad apples. One doctor, for instance, had been seeing my mom for two years and only in 2010 did he finally confess that it was very possible the disease he had identified was not the disease my mom had. Oops. He also stated more than once that the supplements we were trying would never help at all, even though we found a couple that have helped marginally. Needless to say, we haven't contacted him since.

Baffled is the correct word. For every doctor we have seen, we come away with a new disease name to go home and google. When we inquire as to if the doctor is sure or not, they'll either say they're not or they are, the latter obviously being non-factual as someone has to be wrong. She has gone through test after test after test to no avail. My mom by this point is so exhausted from the run-around that she has given up. One interesting case study is my dad, who began this process a few years ago as one of the most allopathic people I have ever met and he has done a complete 180. In any case, I appreciate your well wishes.

Angela: Thanks. Looking at the glass half full perspective, I feel as if I have more life experience than the average person my age. Full slate of college classes and two jobs while taking care of my mom, hopefully that will pay dividends down the road.
 
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My condolences, OP. My great uncle succumbed to ALS a few years ago. He tried removing his mercury dental fillings and many other "holistic" treatments, all to no avail. While I often disagree with mainstream medicine's views, I have to stress that a political forum is no place for credible medical advice. Best wishes.
 
Regarding this,"it is now a foregone conclusion that she has less than a year to live."

That is not really right. She could turn it around any time.

I am working with someone who has not walked in years and we are turning that one around.

Craig Oster was in hospice on breathing assistance when he turned it around and is now starting to walk again.

It sounds like your mother is in a way in better shape than either of them.

She just needs to change her beliefs and ways.

By the way, religion, especially Christianity, tends to be involved in the creation of als.

And you don't need to worry about the exact diagnosis. Disease is disease. Health is health. To get from one to the other takes pretty much the same strategy no matter what exactly is going on.
 
Regarding this,"it is now a foregone conclusion that she has less than a year to live."

That is not really right. She could turn it around any time.

I am working with someone who has not walked in years and we are turning that one around.

Craig Oster was in hospice on breathing assistance when he turned it around and is now starting to walk again.

It sounds like your mother is in a way in better shape than either of them.

She just needs to change her beliefs and ways.

By the way, religion, especially Christianity, tends to be involved in the creation of als.

And you don't need to worry about the exact diagnosis. Disease is disease. Health is health. To get from one to the other takes pretty much the same strategy no matter what exactly is going on.

There is some science to this. I have learned in my Creative Arts in Health and Wellness course that a person's state of mind can extend and even improve the life of a person which chronic diseases. The mind and body connection is very strong.
 
Alright, I promised a few weeks ago to keep this thread updated with the latest information, and I plan on keeping that promise. As such, here is the first legitimate update:

Yesterday I, along with her and my brother went to an appointment with a natural health doctor (D.O.), the first one we've seen. Unfortunately for us, he spent virtually the entire time pimping this highly expensive protocol that is way, way out of the cards for us in terms of price. The entire time, it definitely felt as if something wasn't right, and finally, we found out why. Turns out, the price we agreed upon was actually not the real price. This gentleman performed the old bait and switch, claiming the money owed was actually only the co-pay, and in reality, we owed him over $1,000. He was kind enough to wait until we were done with the appointment to reveal his true cost. He is attempting to perform the age-old insurance fraud by attempting to extract money from the insurance company that was never agreed upon in the first place. I could go on, as there were some other very serious transgressions, but needless to say, this guy was a first-rate con man and my mom, along with our entire family, is extremely disheartened. If he tries to collect the money in court, we plan to fight him full force. On another note, my mom told me yesterday that she believes she doesn't have much time left even though she doesn't know why she feels that way. For the reasons stated above on the mind-body connection, I am inclined to believe her.

The Next Step: What we did decide to do yesterday was look into getting a heavy metals test done to see if she has any heavy metals in her system. I have believed for a while that she does, but I don't have the data to prove it. UPDATE: Looked into this, not going to happen, so that's all there is.

Also, mom was allergic to Cal-Mag supplements, so that didn't work.
 
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Hi TCE,

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My best to you and your mom,
Louise
 
Bumping this up since you replied to one of my posts. I found some stuff for you to research. I'm not a doctor, so you have to look into this yourself.

"ALS, more commonly known as Lou Gehrig's disease, results from excessive glutamate production. Many believe it may also be responsible for quite a variety of diseases of the nervous system, and are looking for ways to minimize its effects."

Interestingly I have an issue with the nervous system too and testing shows my glutamate production is sky high. I do not eat MSG, so it has to be a defect in the body itself.
 
Bumping this up since you replied to one of my posts. I found some stuff for you to research. I'm not a doctor, so you have to look into this yourself.

"ALS, more commonly known as Lou Gehrig's disease, results from excessive glutamate production. Many believe it may also be responsible for quite a variety of diseases of the nervous system, and are looking for ways to minimize its effects."

Interestingly I have an issue with the nervous system too and testing shows my glutamate production is sky high. I do not eat MSG, so it has to be a defect in the body itself.

I believe it and we've been told that a few times as well. She's tried using supplements, herbs, etc to reduce the glutamate production but they haven't done anything. I am almost positive she has high amounts of some type of metal but there are several issues with the process. We don't have any legitimate way to get the testing done and then turn around and actually have her do a detox. The money isn't there and most importantly, she essentially believes at this point that all hope is lost and it is simply an exercise in how much longer she can make it. She is pretty much unwilling at this point to try anything that inconveniences her for any stretch of time primarily because she knows she doesn't have much time left, and thus it makes no sense to make that remaining time any more uncomfortable than it has to be.

Also important, there is no confirmation that what she has is actually ALS or even close to it. The doctors have been completely baffled throughout this process and the more they see, the less they know. I can't truly blame her for feeling hopeless. After all of this time and all of this effort and money, we have absolutely nothing to show for it. This says more about the epic failure of the medical system than anything.
 
As the title says, my mom was diagnosed with ALS two days ago and the medical community has effectively said she's screwed. If anyone has any experience with this or knows anyone who had, I would appreciate it. Thanks in advance.

This is pretty much all I have found on alternative methods: http://www.naturalnews.com/028734_ALS_remedies.html

I am so sorry to hear this...it's one of the worst things to have to deal with. You have my deepest sympathy and empathy. I said a prayer for you and your mother, may God be with you during your difficult time.
 
TCE, did you ever try organic unfiltered apple cider vinegar?

I saw a whole laundry list of other things that were tried, I've really heard a lot of good things about this stuff and have taken it on and off myself for about 10 years.
 
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