Mom Diagnosed with ALS (Lou Gehrig's Disease)...Help?

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[Birdlady]

TCE
I've been meaning to do a video on just that, but never got around to it. I wanted my hubby in it with me, but that probably won't happen. He's not much for the camera these days since getting sick. With both of us being sick, it really freaking sucks. I can't lie and make up some fairy tale story. Some days I am angry about it. Other days I am depressed. My hubby and I must have an amazing bond because through it all we have stuck by each other. We spend a lot of time together. Most couples wouldn't have survived! haaha!

 

[TCE]

@Anaconda: His is considered a rare form that is very slow-progressing.

@ferrari: She won't try anything anymore.

@pcgame: We tried mega doses of vitamins for quite a while and nothing ever changed. She won't actually go to anymore doctors.

@Birdlady: That's unfortunate on the video end, but hey, it's really cool that your marriage has managed to survive all of the trials and tribulations.

 

[donnay]

We tried mega doses of vitamins for quite a while and nothing ever changed. She won't actually go to anymore doctors.

I am a firm believer that vitamins and minerals are the answer to chronic illnesses. However, one must find the purist pharmaceutical grades. There are plenty of companies out there. I, personally, like Dr. Wallach's company Youngevity. Too many vitamin/mineral companies use an over abundance of fillers, and that in of itself can be a detriment to the person. 90 essential vitamins and minerals are what the body needs daily. You cannot get it through food.

I also like that you can get the vitamins and minerals to drink rather than taking pills (which I hate with a passion).

http://www.wallachonline.com/


I pray that your mother will find some relief and live a long healthy life in the process.

 

[Birdlady]

Donnay I like you, but honest to GOD it is not that easy. Please understand this and know that not all people become magically cured by supplements. You can believe a vitamin is going to work, but it does not mean it will. You can read on a website that it helps and prevents x, y, z conditions and it doesn't mean it will.

Not all chronic illness states are that simple because I look at everything my husband and I have tried. We could open up a second iherb store with the amount of vitamins, supplements and herbs in our house. That is one video I am going to make very soon. I am going to show all of the supplements, vitamins and crap that I wasted my time on and it did nothing but injure my husband. He was doing better, but then took a digestive supplement that put him where he is today. People need to respect these supplements. I've had more negative side effects from supplements than I have rx drugs.

I assume you are talking about Tangy tangerine, it honestly is not that good of a product for how expensive it is...It doesn't even use the active forms of vitamins and the amount of vitamins in it are really really tiny. Some examples, 100mg of potassium, 500mcg of cyanocobalamin, 400mcg of folic acid, 2mg of Copper....ugh! You get 3X's that much potassium in one serving of potato chis...No exaggeration! 500mcg of B12 is sooo very little and many docs say to avoid the cyanoB12 form. In addition lots of people have MTHFR mutations and folic acid is the last thing you want to take especially since most people are getting a ton of it in enriched foods. And lastly, I would never take a multi with copper or iron in it. I know of a ton of people who have an overload of copper and iron. You can be doing more harm than good.

I am a firm believer that vitamins and minerals are the answer to chronic illnesses. However, one must find the purist pharmaceutical grades. There are plenty of companies out there. I, personally, like Dr. Wallach's company Youngevity. Too many vitamin/mineral companies use an over abundance of fillers, and that in of itself can be a detriment to the person. 90 essential vitamins and minerals are what the body needs daily. You cannot get it through food.

I also like that you can get the vitamins and minerals to drink rather than taking pills (which I hate with a passion).

http://www.wallachonline.com/


I pray that your mother will find some relief and live a long healthy life in the process.

 

[rpwi]

I am a firm believer that vitamins and minerals are the answer to chronic illnesses.

I've done a ton of research and read a ton of books on alt-medicine. In fact I've even created my own natural cures website...and the more I research, the more I'm convinced that a number of alt cures are mostly placebos. This is not a bad thing! The power of the placebo is HUGE when you understand quantum mechanics (highly suggest people read the 'Holographic Universe'). The problem with the placebo is that it inevitably the symptoms return or come back in a different part of the body. Surgery and drugs are some of the most popular placebos around! To-date the medical industry has not wrapped their head around the placebo concept and why it is so effective.

The key to long term recovery...is strangely enough our emotions. Reality is somewhat recursive and symbolic. While seemingly fantastic...matter appears to by a symbolic representation of our emotions and not vice-versa. And emotions are symbolic of higher thoughts and so forth. In a dark/secret part of our mind...we LIKE to be sick. It may give us certain amount attention, time off of work, can provide victomhood status, etc...

Those that have understood this secret have had fantastic success in the alt-cure department. This includes AIM (which is in essence electronic homeopathy but it focuses on the negative emotions attached to each ailment).

It also includes psychosomatic medicine or TMS. This is the stuff Howard Stern, John Stossel and MANY others are raving about. Made popular by Dr. John Sarno, the premise is that much of our suffering comes from repressing unconscious anger and the body in order cover up these embarrassing emotions manifests them in the physical body instead. Starting with back and joint pain...Sarno had incredible success for patients who even had diagnosed structural defects! Great 20/20 story on the subject: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsR4wydiIBI

The interesting thing is that while Dr. Sarno specialized in back and joint pain...people were (just be reading his books and realizing where the pain was coming from) made miraculous recovery in other areas...like from prostate issues, carpal tunnel, blood pressure issues and a host of other seemingly unrelated matters. The gist of psychosomatic medicine is that people first educate themselves of how the mind can and does create physical problems (which is well documented). This can be done by reading his books (like 'The Divided Mind'). Patients then need to start addressing their emotional issues. A diary on emotional matters of the day (encouraged to lengthy) can help a lot. As can psychotherapy (if done by competent therapists). In a couple of weeks...it is quite common for people just to see their symptoms vanish.

Taking psychosomatic medicine to a very advanced step (not for everybody) probably entails a more nuanced metaphysical understanding of the mind/ego relationship. 'A Course in Miracles' is a good study on this issue. People who have taken the lessons in the course...have had miraculous changes in their life (like not having to wear glasses anymore to say the least...).

Seems far out...but this stuff works. Stop repressing your bad emotions, heal them up...and odly enough the body will follow.

TCE...don't if you are interested or not...but in Louise L. Hay who has mapped out these correlations...says ALS corresponds with a 'fear of success'. I would put NOT Louise Hay in the same level as the other three sources I listed...but it is food for thought...and your mom might consider taking a more therapeutic approach. If you emailed AIM and asked for a consultation, they would probably have a more scientific mapping/correlation of ALS and the corresponding trouble emotion.

 

[mike6623]

My aunt had it and just recently passed. It was sad, it seemed like within 4 months she was bedridden. Couldn'ttalk, walk, nothing. I am not sure about effectivetreatment, but they had money and went to the best hospitals. Sorry man, wish the best, but that is my experience. It's a nasty disease.

 

[farreri]

@ferrari: She won't try anything anymore.

That's unfortunate. Her only solution may be something like this:

http://www.aimprogram.com/aboutaim.php

See my sticky thread above where I posted more info on this. All you do is send them a relatively recent photo of her and they do the rest. I think the program is about $80 a month. The program may seem "way out there" for some, but their theory is based on Quantum Physics and it's not too much per month to try it out for a month or two. Nothing to lose at this point it seems.

 

[Brian4Liberty]

Is there a known cause of ALS? From what little I have read, it is another "disease" that is defined by it's symptoms, without knowing specific causes, and there is no definitive test.

ALS seems to be pretty well defined, and not as much of a mystery as some other, newer disorders. Though one has to wonder if any of these disorders are related, especially the cause.

Some of those other disorders are mentioned in this thread (madcow, CJD, PSP) :

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...one-with-quot-Mad-Cow-like-quot-brain-disease

 

[donnay]

Donnay I like you, but honest to GOD it is not that easy. Please understand this and know that not all people become magically cured by supplements. You can believe a vitamin is going to work, but it does not mean it will. You can read on a website that it helps and prevents x, y, z conditions and it doesn't mean it will.

Not all chronic illness states are that simple because I look at everything my husband and I have tried. We could open up a second iherb store with the amount of vitamins, supplements and herbs in our house. That is one video I am going to make very soon. I am going to show all of the supplements, vitamins and crap that I wasted my time on and it did nothing but injure my husband. He was doing better, but then took a digestive supplement that put him where he is today. People need to respect these supplements. I've had more negative side effects from supplements than I have rx drugs.

I assume you are talking about Tangy tangerine, it honestly is not that good of a product for how expensive it is...It doesn't even use the active forms of vitamins and the amount of vitamins in it are really really tiny. Some examples, 100mg of potassium, 500mcg of cyanocobalamin, 400mcg of folic acid, 2mg of Copper....ugh! You get 3X's that much potassium in one serving of potato chis...No exaggeration! 500mcg of B12 is sooo very little and many docs say to avoid the cyanoB12 form. In addition lots of people have MTHFR mutations and folic acid is the last thing you want to take especially since most people are getting a ton of it in enriched foods. And lastly, I would never take a multi with copper or iron in it. I know of a ton of people who have an overload of copper and iron. You can be doing more harm than good.

Birdlady,

Have you listened to any of Dr. Wallach's lectures, videos or books? He has the experience and proof to back up what he says. We have been taken down a road so many people have been scammed by. You get scammed over and over again, it is not surprising that a simple thing like 90 essential vitamins and minerals seems rather far-fetched.

I have done plenty of research because I have family members who are chronically ill. The thing is, you have to be committed to it. You cannot just do a little bit and expect miracles. In some cases it takes 90 or more days to start feeling better--in other cases it takes nearly a year for the body to heal the damages. Sometimes, it gets worse before it gets better--usually that is the body trying to purge all the poisons and regulate. People freak out when they feel this way, and immediate stop the treatments because they think it is making them worse. I have seen it done many times. I, myself, am guilty of it.

Nevertheless, 90 essential vitamins and minerals are key. When your body doesn't have them, it tries hard to help, but then things start breaking down. It happens to people as they get older, the body is not as resilient as it was when we are younger. Therefore we think as we get older, this is just old age, when in many cases it is not.

Our farmlands have been depleted of so many minerals. You cannot possibly get these vitamins and minerals from your daily diet. If you look at the statistics, alone, of Vitamin D deficiencies, in the country it is staggering. This includes states where most people get a lot of sun. Black people, for instance, are extremely Vitamin D deficient. Do some research, as I did and you will find that this is true.

I cannot emphasis enough that what Dr. Wallach teaches about deficiencies is, in fact, a major problem in our society. To have the freedom of not being beholden to Big pHARMa is truly emancipating. So many people rely on Big pHARMa and it saddens me. Because much of what I have research proves to me, that Big pHARMa is the very reason so many people are sick.

I wish you well and hope that some day you will not have to live with chronic illness, because a medical doctor say you have to.

 

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[Birdlady]

Donnay,

I have been committed. I used to think the same as you many years ago when I first started down my health journey. I used to judge those who were not getting better and thought it was their fault. They didn't try hard enough. They didn't take the right vitamins. They didn't give it enough time to work. Well after 7 years of not having much success with the very vitamins I was telling people to take, I realized how much of a hypocrite I had become! All I have done is collect a bunch of vitamins that do not work. That give me heart palpitations, bone pain, anxiety, tremors, severe hives and some have even sent me to the ER. Despite not knowing a single person cured by POTS with supplements etc, I still thought I was going to be the first one...Talk about being full of myself!

Does this mean I tell people NOT to try supplements. Absolutely not, but speaking as if these supplements are the cure all for all chronic illness is so far from the truth. Have you ever thought of the potential consequences of telling people what supplements to take? Especially since you really do not know anything about the person on the other side of the keyboard?

The only woman I know who was cured of POTS was healed by God. She did not take any supplements, medicine or anything to get better. A man laid his hands on this lady and she was instantly cured and has been for over a year.

I'm really having a hard time understanding your last statement. It's as if you think I want this, but that's so far from the truth. It makes me sad for you, that you actually think that way about me. But I forgive you for it is hard to understand what it is like to have a chronic illness when you do not have one yourself.

 

[tttppp]

Donnay,

I have been committed. I used to think the same as you many years ago when I first started down my health journey. I used to judge those who were not getting better and thought it was their fault. They didn't try hard enough. They didn't take the right vitamins. They didn't give it enough time to work. Well after 7 years of not having much success with the very vitamins I was telling people to take, I realized how much of a hypocrite I had become! All I have done is collect a bunch of vitamins that do not work. That give me heart palpitations, bone pain, anxiety, tremors, severe hives and some have even sent me to the ER. Despite not knowing a single person cured by POTS with supplements etc, I still thought I was going to be the first one...Talk about being full of myself!

Does this mean I tell people NOT to try supplements. Absolutely not, but speaking as if these supplements are the cure all for all chronic illness is so far from the truth. Have you ever thought of the potential consequences of telling people what supplements to take? Especially since you really do not know anything about the person on the other side of the keyboard?

The only woman I know who was cured of POTS was healed by God. She did not take any supplements, medicine or anything to get better. A man laid his hands on this lady and she was instantly cured and has been for over a year.

I'm really having a hard time understanding your last statement. It's as if you think I want this, but that's so far from the truth. It makes me sad for you, that you actually think that way about me. But I forgive you for it is hard to understand what it is like to have a chronic illness when you do not have one yourself.

What condition do you have? That sounds fixable.

 

[donnay]

Donnay,

I have been committed. I used to think the same as you many years ago when I first started down my health journey. I used to judge those who were not getting better and thought it was their fault. They didn't try hard enough. They didn't take the right vitamins. They didn't give it enough time to work. Well after 7 years of not having much success with the very vitamins I was telling people to take, I realized how much of a hypocrite I had become! All I have done is collect a bunch of vitamins that do not work. That give me heart palpitations, bone pain, anxiety, tremors, severe hives and some have even sent me to the ER. Despite not knowing a single person cured by POTS with supplements etc, I still thought I was going to be the first one...Talk about being full of myself!

That is exactly what I was talking about above.

I am a firm believer that vitamins and minerals are the answer to chronic illnesses. However, one must find the purist pharmaceutical grades. There are plenty of companies out there. I, personally, like Dr. Wallach's company Youngevity. Too many vitamin/mineral companies use an over abundance of fillers, and that in of itself can be a detriment to the person. 90 essential vitamins and minerals are what the body needs daily. You cannot get it through food.

Our bodies need about 90 different vitamins and minerals, most of them in trace quantities. A deficiency of any mineral will give rise to disease. For example, according to Dr. Joel Wallach, calcium deficiency is responsible for over 140 different diseases. In Dr. Wallach's book, "Rare Earths Forbidden Cures," He shows how the results of mineral deficiencies can bring on illnesses. The soil that food is grown in is depleted of minerals, fertilizer only replaces three of them (nitrogen, potassium, and phosphorus), and typical mineral supplements may/can be hard to digest. Intake of plant-derived liquid colloidal minerals might be what your body needs.


This is definitely worth a listen:

Absolutely not, but speaking as if these supplements are the cure all for all chronic illness is so far from the truth. Have you ever thought of the potential consequences of telling people what supplements to take? Especially since you really do not know anything about the person on the other side of the keyboard?

First off, I am not telling anyone to do anything. So please do not put words in my mouth. What I am putting up is my research and I hope others will follow suit and do the necessary research themselves. I do take umbrage, at the fact, that you make it sound like I am talking down to people and acting like a know-it-all. That is the furthest from the truth. I want to help people get away from the allopathic let downs. Most allopathic doctors are not interested in curing people, as much as they are willing to treat illness and keep them strung along as a nice meal ticket. It helps Big pHarma as well.

Dr. Wallach has found that you need 90 nutrients a day--you need 60 minerals; 16 vitamins; 12 essential Amino acids (or protein building blocks); 3 essential fatty acids = 90 nutrients in your diet everyday. If you don't, you are going to get a deficiency disease if you do not have them in complete numbers and optimal amounts. Could finding cures be so simply--bah humbug! Right? While I understand your cynicism, and empathize with you, I am not ever going to give up hope--whether it be from God Almighty, himself, or whether it be from someone helping you to look in the right direction. Dr. Wallach has done that for me and my family. I was just hoping to pass this information to others.