MO - Women refused treatment at hospital, then arrested, then dies in jail.

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Another casualty of the medical/enforcement complex.



Hospital defends care prior to woman's death at Richmond Heights jail

http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/...cle_2bf0f06e-a173-582e-99da-e1858875883d.html

RICHMOND HEIGHTS • National attention to the story of Anna Brown's death has overwhelmed her family and prompted St. Mary's Health Center officials to defend the actions workers took moments before the homeless woman was arrested for trespassing there.

"The staff at St. Mary's has heard the outrage being expressed about this tragic event," Kate Becker, president of SSM St. Mary's Health Center, said in a videotaped statement posted on the hospital's website Thursday.

Becker said in a statement to the Post-Dispatch that the hospital has received calls and messages from the public since the story ran, adding that some have been supportive too.

"We followed established medical guidelines and performed appropriate tests. Unfortunately, even with appropriate testing using sophisticated technology, blood clots can still be undetected in a small number of cases," the statement continued.

The Post-Dispatch published a report Sunday on its investigation into the Sept. 21 death of Brown, 29, just hours after Richmond Heights police arrested her for trespassing at St. Mary's.

The homeless mother of two had been to three hospitals within a week complaining of leg pain. Police escorted her out of St. Louis University Hospital. Richmond Heights police then arrested her hours later after she insisted she received inadequate care and refused to leave St. Mary's.

A St. Mary's doctor described Brown as exhibiting "no distress" during an examination Richmond Heights police requested before taking her to jail, according to a federal investigation into the hospital's conduct.

"My legs don't work!" Brown yelled as police wheeled her out of the hospital after the exam. Officers dragged her into the jail and left her on the floor of a jail cell, where she died.

About three hours after examining Brown, the same doctor pronounced her dead.

An autopsy revealed Brown had blood clots in her legs that had moved to and lodged in her lungs.

The Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services' investigation found St. Mary's was in compliance with federal emergency care laws that require hospitals to treat patients regardless of their ability to pay.

The investigation found that medical staff conducted an ultrasound of Brown's legs about 24 hours before she died, which did not reveal any clots. One nurse claimed she saw Brown put on her pants and stand.

"The sad reality is that emergency departments across the country are often a place of last resort for many people in our society who suffer from complex social problems that become medical issues when they are not addressed," Becker said. "It is unfortunate that it takes a tragic event like this to call attention to a crisis in our midst."

Experts say the condition Brown suffered, called deep vein thrombosis, can develop within hours.

Meanwhile, the experience of having her daughter's death in the news has left Dorothy Davis of Normandy once again unable to sleep or eat — as she was just after her daughter died.

"It's brought everything back up," she said. "And it's just so horrible to learn just how selfish people really are because nobody is admitting they did anything wrong in this."

The story has attracted attention this week from other media outlets, including the Los Angeles Times and Washington Post. A Facebook page titled "Justice for Anna Brown," was created Tuesday and has about 12,000 followers.

A petition in support of health care for all Americans in honor of Brown has gotten more than 20,000 signatures.

Locally, radio talk shows have discussed Brown's case. The Rev. Larry Rice marched with a group of about 20 people Tuesday, including two of Brown's sisters, to the St. Louis County government complex, demanding that Brown's death be investigated for criminal misconduct and that the county mirror the city's efforts in offering shelters to the homeless.

"It is so amazing that so many people care," Davis said.

Rice, director of New Life Evangelistic Center, also is planning a march from the St. Louis County government complex to St. Mary's hospital next Friday in Brown's honor.
 
And people want universal health care? This story makes me sick!! No humanity!!!!!!!!
 
So is it your position that:

A. The woman was entitled to more free medical care?

B. The cops should not enforce trespass laws?
 
So is it your position that:
A. The woman was entitled to more free medical care?
B. The cops should not enforce trespass laws?

That is what I'm wondering. The woman got free care from 3 different hospitals. Either all 3 hospitals were in on it lying or her illness was not detectable for some reason.
 
B. The cops should not enforce trespass laws?

How about people in wheelchairs don't need to go to jail for trying to 'trespass' at a hospital?

It would be a lot cheaper for the state if the cops just drove her home and let her find her own way back to the hospital.
 
The underlying problem here is the war on drugs. Hospitals are now of the mind set that anyone coming in for unspecified pains are just looking to get prescriptions for pain medications. I guarantee this was the unspoken thought when they were treating this woman. The fact that she went to three different medical facilities probably was used against her. This is really sad.
 
How about people in wheelchairs don't need to go to jail for trying to 'trespass' at a hospital?

It would be a lot cheaper for the state if the cops just drove her home and let her find her own way back to the hospital.

FTA:
The homeless mother of two had been to three hospitals within a week complaining of leg pain. Police escorted her out of St. Louis University Hospital. Richmond Heights police then arrested her hours later after she insisted she received inadequate care and refused to leave St. Mary's.
If there were no shelters available, taking her to a jailcell might have been the humanitarian thing to do.
 
+rep

How about people in wheelchairs don't need to go to jail for trying to 'trespass' at a hospital?

It would be a lot cheaper for the state if the cops just drove her home and let her find her own way back to the hospital.
 
The underlying problem here is the war on drugs. Hospitals are now of the mind set that anyone coming in for unspecified pains are just looking to get prescriptions for pain medications. I guarantee this was the unspoken thought when they were treating this woman. The fact that she went to three different medical facilities probably was used against her. This is really sad.

That's a good point, but blood clots are hard to detect. I have (well, had) a friend who died from a blood clot. She had broken her leg, they told her what to look out for. She developed the symptoms, called an ambulance, went to the hospital. They couldn't find anything, so they sent her home. Then she died.

She had excellent insurance.
 
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In what way is she a casualty of the medical complex? They treated her for free. Are you implying that they are lying about the treatment that she received for free?

Let me see...if someone is telling you they cannot walk their legs are hurting them, it is incumbent upon the doctor to have some idea--like phlebitis/Thrombosis?


The problem is there are no more diagnosticians--they rely too heavily on machines for answers!!
 
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Let me see...if someone is telling you they cannot walk their legs are hurting them, it is incumbent upon the doctor to have some idea--like phlebitis/Thrombosis?
The problem is there are no more diagnosticians--they rely too heavily on machines for answers!!

So, you are saying that should have treated her indefinitely for free even though they could find no problems?
 
So, you are saying that should have treated her indefinitely for free even though they could find no problems?


There obviously was a problem, since she is DEAD! You act as if "for free" is something bad. Doctors used to give pro bono time to patients--that has truly gone by the way side thanks to government interventions and lawyers!


A good doctor would have used his noggin (like diagnosticians used to do) rather than relying on machines to tell them nothing is wrong...it was all in her head.

Now she is dead, and three children are without a mother!!
 
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So, you are saying that should have treated her indefinitely for free even though they could find no problems?

Would Ron Paul have thrown her back out in the street to be arrested and die on the floor of a jail cell?

Jesus...
 
Would Ron Paul have thrown her back out in the street to be arrested and die on the floor of a jail cell?
Jesus...

Do we infinite resources? You say jail cell, would it be better if it was under a bridge somewhere? If they had no shelters to take the homeless woman, I can see how they might have decided to "arrest" her in order to give her a roof and bed to sleep on.
 
Would Ron Paul have thrown her back out in the street to be arrested and die on the floor of a jail cell?

Jesus...

How many homeless invalids have you taken in? If the answer is zero, you might want to back off on juging the limits of the charity of others.
 
Do we infinite resources? You say jail cell, would it be better if it was under a bridge somewhere? If they had no shelters to take the homeless woman, I can see how they might have decided to "arrest" her in order to give her a roof and bed to sleep on.

C'mon, she was not arrested out of any altruistic motives.

She was arrested because she caused a scene.

She was making a scene because her legs stopped working and she was dying.
 
As much as we worship Doctors and the Medical system, they are reactive and treat obvious emergencies. They are not so good at pro-active treatment or diagnosis. Who pays does not matter.
 
Sounds to me like some of you are afraid to state your true position, which is that everybody should get unlimited free healthcare. don't be afraid, come out and say it.
 
C'mon, she was not arrested out of any altruistic motives.
She was arrested because she caused a scene.
She was making a scene because her legs stopped working and she was dying.

So yes, it would be better for her to dump her in an alley somewhere?
 
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