Mitt's Magical Mormon Undies: Penn Jillette's Rant Redux

[RonRules]

Before this gets moved to Religion, I'll put it there myself.



I personally believe that this topic is a HIGHLY relevant discussion for a politics thread, but I'll save the mod's effort from moving it to religion.

 

[robert9712000]

Hes much better when he just sticks to politics.He shows his ignorance when he starts judging something he has no clue about or an an ability to contemplate God.

 

[torchbearer]

he's talking about a recent trial in louisiana.
the woman burned her children alive. she claimed that the bible states that if anything keeps them from their ministry it should be removed(paraphrased)

 

[Sola_Fide]

he's talking about a recent trial in louisiana.
the woman burned her children alive. she claimed that the bible states that if anything keeps them from their ministry it should be removed(paraphrased)

Where does it say that?

 

[BlackTerrel]

I like Penn Jillette and usually find him to be very rational and pretty damn smart.

He's also arrogant as hell and a bit of a jerk... case in point.

 

[Dr.3D]

Hey, don't make fun of the Mormons... they might burn down an embassy.

 

[erowe1]

Where does it say that?

I'm guessing Matthew 5:29.

 

[BlackTerrel]

Hey, don't make fun of the Mormons... they might burn down an embassy.

I do find it interesting about how cool and hip and completely PC it is to attack someone's religion all of a sudden. All my liberal friends on facebook are suddenly anti-Mormon. Funny how that works.

 

[Dr.3D]

I do find it interesting about how cool and hip and completely PC it is to attack someone's religion all of a sudden. All my liberal friends on facebook are suddenly anti-Mormon. Funny how that works.

Yeah, when I graduated from High School back in the '60s, we thought it was something we didn't do. We would never attack someone's religious beliefs. We all said that wasn't a cool thing to do.

 

[torchbearer]

Yeah, when I graduated from High School back in the '60s, we thought it was something we didn't do. We would never attack someone's religious beliefs. We all said that wasn't a cool thing to do.

I attended a baptist college. the advance theology classes were severe debates with real substance. thin skinned people left the classroom crying and often dropping the class. by the end of the class, you were standing on firm ground. i was very impressed with the theology classes, i was afraid they were going to be baptist sunday school type classes... nothing like it.

 

[Bruno]

I do find it interesting about how cool and hip and completely PC it is to attack someone's religion all of a sudden. All my liberal friends on facebook are suddenly anti-Mormon. Funny how that works.

Liberals, to admittantly generalize, aren't known for their silent tongues on the issue of the religious beliefs of their usually more pious conservative counterparts.

 

[RonRules]

Yeah, when I graduated from High School back in the '60s, we thought it was something we didn't do. We would never attack someone's religious beliefs. We all said that wasn't a cool thing to do.

It's NOT OK to discriminate on the basis of race, ethnicity, country of origin, height, gender, homosexuality, etc., because people can't do anything about any of these characteristics. That's how they are.

However, religion is an IDEA. It's a thought, usually totally baseless. So as far as I'm concerned, it's fair game to criticize and Penn does a good job it.

In the above video, he's actually much nicer than normal and admits (while he cringes), that Romney, Bachman, etc are sane people. He would normally call them complete idiots.

 

[RonRules]

severe debates with real substance. thin skinned people left the classroom crying and often dropping the class.

What kind of topics would make them cry in class?

 

[Carehn]

As usual I agree with Penn 100%

 

[torchbearer]

What kind of topics would make them cry in class?

anything- just for starters origins of letters and scrolls from the bible.
prof has a bible with blank pages in it. he calls it the original bible.

 

[Aratus]

i'm spending almost nine minutes of my life listening to penn jillette's rant because penn jillette is penn jillette and to my
surprise i am finding myself wondering when it recently hit him that barack obama & mitt romney are consumate politicians.
i had assumed if you are elected to a local office of some sort, you often ARE a politician on the make, soooooooooooo....

 

[Sola_Fide]

anything- just for starters origins of letters and scrolls from the bible.
prof has a bible with blank pages in it. he calls it the original bible.

Really? That's interesting. Care to expand on that?

 

[torchbearer]

Really? That's interesting. Care to expand on that?

not really, spent six months diving into the topic. the knowledge cost me a pretty penny too.

 

[Sola_Fide]

not really, spent six months diving into the topic. the knowledge cost me a pretty penny too.

Well, can you give us the brief overview? Just a couple of sentences?

 

[torchbearer]

Well, can you give us the brief overview? Just a couple of sentences?

the idea of the blank paged bible was to express the idea that there was no original bible, which threw out the idea that god came down from the clouds and handed the pope a book of his words for the people to worship.
now- we have to start to look at each scroll, find its origin and understand the culture, people and happenings of that time to make a context.
the class begins at the beginning... and let me tell you- when you start to realize the early writers had no concept of heaven and hell, and that the ideas come in later- you start to see a record of human conciousness captured in story.